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HereSince1628

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145. That's the nature of the 'grand compromise'

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 01:55 PM

Jan 2016

It sets competitively other measures of representation in the House and Senate.

The house has representatives apportioned by districts based on population.
The senate has representative apportioned equally by state.

This insures that states are equally represented in one body, while population is represented equally in the other.

While I'm not sure about the 2 year terms vs 6 year terms, compared to compromises of the most recent administrations...this TRULY is a GREAT compromise

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So how would you amend the constitution? [View all] Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 OP

I would add an amendment making "Walk This Way" the national anthem jberryhill Jan 2016 #1

"Born In The USA" Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #31

We Will Rock You Deny and Shred Jan 2016 #104

no just no dlwickham Jan 2016 #103

You take that cap off and stand up with hand-on-heart when you hear Steven Tyler sing. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #156

Ban on all religions FLPanhandle Jan 2016 #2

Yeah TeddyR Jan 2016 #10

At least dissolve the tax-free status and education vouchers from tax dollars lindysalsagal Jan 2016 #63

Bingo. Got my vote on that one. mountain grammy Jan 2016 #112

K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #138

I would be against forcing anyone SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #142

Only if we can count capitalism as a religion. frizzled Jan 2016 #133

Good point! Capitalism, the way it's practiced, is damn evil too! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #136

Snicker nadinbrzezinski Jan 2016 #3

That drill is one weekend a month and a week, once a year. -none Jan 2016 #58

mr abbott is deranged spanone Jan 2016 #4

A simple clarification hifiguy Jan 2016 #5

So a Republican Congress could prohibit publishers from publishing certain books? Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #25

Yes jberryhill Jan 2016 #36

+1 jwirr Jan 2016 #39

Remove Texas as a state if that shithead doesnt step down randys1 Jan 2016 #6

They left once already and Yupster Jan 2016 #7

Texas is probably 7-10% on the national economy good choice. nt SpookyDem Jan 2016 #27

True but our national IQ would jump around 12 points and people wouldn't... BlueJazz Jan 2016 #54

I'd remove New York TeddyR Jan 2016 #76

Don't forget North and South Dakota ShrimpPoboy Jan 2016 #82

It's a start, but how about we remove any state which ever hosted a "Real Housewives of..." variant, petronius Jan 2016 #85

So TeddyR Jan 2016 #90

No no: as I said, California gets a pass. There may be additional unspecified petronius Jan 2016 #92

Term limits for all federal offices Yupster Jan 2016 #8

Good catch on the electoral college. hifiguy Jan 2016 #11

If there are term limits for office holders, Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #18

Term limits are built into the system. -none Jan 2016 #60

Term limits are built into what system? Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #61

Each congress critter hires their own staff. -none Jan 2016 #74

Of course you are right, Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #77

I agree with that. -none Jan 2016 #81

I disagree Yupster Jan 2016 #102

The only reason I am not in favor of term limits, Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #105

And, if it's not staffers it's ALEC & lobbyists dmr Jan 2016 #167

Staff AND lobbyists loyalsister Jan 2016 #169

all for electoral college removal otherwise its good as is. nt SpookyDem Jan 2016 #28

Also, mandatory retirement age for Federal judges and justices LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2016 #57

Term limits, and one electoral vote per state plus one for DC. nt cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #119

DC Statehood Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #132

Funny thing about the Electoral College 1939 Jan 2016 #164

Incumbancy is the only real advantage Dems have loyalsister Jan 2016 #175

I'm fine with it just the way it is. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #9

Agreed! TeddyR Jan 2016 #12

For the zillionth time (granted, not to you): truebluegreen Jan 2016 #96

K&R this post! KansDem Jan 2016 #153

Same here n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #14

Leave as is n/t Angel Martin Jan 2016 #52

I doubt a CC would accomplish much in the current climate. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #158

ERA and librechik Jan 2016 #13

Maybe TeddyR Jan 2016 #16

You do realize that if the 2nd was repealed Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #20

"You say you'll H2O Man Jan 2016 #15

Revise, not repeal, the Second. KamaAina Jan 2016 #17

Also get rid of "Congress shall make no law..." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2016 #56

It isn't TeddyR Jan 2016 #83

add something about the right to vote shall not be impinged nt msongs Jan 2016 #19

give us a parliamentary system instead of the incoherent mess we currently have. geek tragedy Jan 2016 #21

You have a very good point, hifiguy Jan 2016 #23

Our system encourages corruption geek tragedy Jan 2016 #24

Especially since impeachment is increasingly confused with a no confidence vote Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #32

+everything. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2016 #157

Your comment about no one else on the planet is not really true Massacure Jan 2016 #173

ah, that's a good point. Though I would point out that outside Latin America geek tragedy Jan 2016 #176

What a MAROON!! madinmaryland Jan 2016 #22

Eliminate the Second Amendment. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #26

At a minimum, I'd amend it to further define "regulated" Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #33

Nah, I am going to. Sorry. jwirr Jan 2016 #40

I would not amend any of it (nt) bigwillq Jan 2016 #29

Replace the 2nd and 13th Amendment with this 47of74 Jan 2016 #30

I'll summarize my 9. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #34

Thank you 47of74 Jan 2016 #35

I like most of this but I do not want term limits because some jwirr Jan 2016 #41

I respect that Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #66

That makes sense. jwirr Jan 2016 #68

18 years is a good time for SC Justices too SwankyXomb Jan 2016 #107

Very well taken point. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #108

This largely guts free speech protection for journalism and media organizations. dairydog91 Jan 2016 #43

I think efforts to eliminate corporate personhood fail for this reason Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #69

As long as you have the kind of SCOTUS we have now we need an amendment... 47of74 Jan 2016 #147

The issue could be addressed directly without taking speech rights away Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #152

An Amendment Enshrining, among other things, the right to privacy penumbra from Griswold Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #37

I agree with a RTP amendment Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #118

The Confederate States Constitution had an interesting wrinkle 1939 Jan 2016 #38

That would take a lot of wind out of the sails of the House. jwirr Jan 2016 #42

Based on 1939 Jan 2016 #47

I suspect the south was correct regarding the tariff money. jwirr Jan 2016 #55

Pork is what made government work. jeff47 Jan 2016 #159

#1. Proportional Representation- to get rid of gerrymandering KittyWampus Jan 2016 #44

Several Ideas... SDJay Jan 2016 #45

Massively. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #46

Why would you TeddyR Jan 2016 #80

Why wouldn't you? truebluegreen Jan 2016 #99

It was part of the "grand bargain" 1939 Jan 2016 #165

Two questions: why is there an amendment process truebluegreen Jan 2016 #177

Okay 1939 Jan 2016 #180

2 answers truebluegreen Jan 2016 #181

Why would you give less power to people from larger states? Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #110

Outlaw capitalism. PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #48

Ha TeddyR Jan 2016 #86

I wouldn't mind a balanced budget amendment NobodyHere Jan 2016 #49

I like the amendment Warren Buffett proposed somewhat tounge in cheek Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #71

Awful idea. truebluegreen Jan 2016 #100

I think every balanced budget proposition ever written has had a time-of-war out clause Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #117

OK. truebluegreen Jan 2016 #141

You'd have to issue a war declaration. Nobody does that anymore for whatever reason. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #144

Terrible idea. jeff47 Jan 2016 #160

I would extend the right of privacy and free speech to the workplace. hollowdweller Jan 2016 #50

"No descendent of Prescott Bush shall be eligible for or hold Federal office" Retrograde Jan 2016 #51

One interesting thing I saw recently was a map of redrawn state lines with equal populations Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #73

I'm down with that. 47of74 Jan 2016 #149

Repeal the 3rd!!! QUARTER TROOPS!!! underpants Jan 2016 #53

LOL! nt firebrand80 Jan 2016 #59

I love the 3rd amendment. Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #72

I'm glad TeddyR Jan 2016 #84

I know you're kidding underpants Jan 2016 #93

No, absolutely not! Soldiers have as much right as any of us to be protected from petronius Jan 2016 #95

I know this is nuts matt819 Jan 2016 #62

I'll see your "nuts" and raise you Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #70

corporations are NOT people. hobbit709 Jan 2016 #64

Right with you. Also I'd add an express & stringent conflict of interest prohibition JudyM Jan 2016 #75

Audits of all govt spending; prohibition of (1) conflicts of interest & (2) falsifying "news" JudyM Jan 2016 #88

ABSOLUTELY!.. Job #1!. . . .n/t annabanana Jan 2016 #125

Re-draw congressional districts on a physical grid that does not change, ever. lindysalsagal Jan 2016 #65

Would districts remain the same even as population changes? NobodyHere Jan 2016 #109

There would be ways around that, still. Deliberately 'stacking the deck' of a district with... randome Jan 2016 #116

See post 120 Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #130

End statute of limitations on assault, and write a equal rights amendment for women, gltg lindysalsagal Jan 2016 #67

Get rid of the 2nd. mwrguy Jan 2016 #78

The First too TeddyR Jan 2016 #87

We could just clarify the Second Amendment, e.g. to something more like Delaware's petronius Jan 2016 #91

That's very thorough TeddyR Jan 2016 #94

Funny you should ask---I started a rewrite this summer Proserpina Jan 2016 #79

Enshrine protection of the living environment to be among the highest purposes of the state, cheapdate Jan 2016 #89

A few ways krispos42 Jan 2016 #97

See post 120 Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #128

Do away with the Electoral College. truebluegreen Jan 2016 #98

Where does the 'artificial persons' come from? Fear or a need for a new round of slavery? randome Jan 2016 #115

Artificial personhood is a term truebluegreen Jan 2016 #140

Instant Runoff Voting. Simple. Done. n/t JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #101

In a more general sense -- update the document to reflect two centuries of technological advancement Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #127

I would remove the "prisoners can be slaves" line in the 13th am. Sunlei Jan 2016 #106

Me too 47of74 Jan 2016 #148

Imagine what America could be,if prisons were non-profit & prison slavery was unconstitutional. Sunlei Jan 2016 #150

Scrap it all and become a dictator. PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #111

Brilliant! Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #113

Abolish the House of Representatives. Expand the Senate to maybe 200 reps. randome Jan 2016 #114

See post 120 Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #131

This is for several of you that have commented in various ways about gerrymandering/redistricting, e Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #120

Ban indoor football and Astroturf taterguy Jan 2016 #121

Are you kidding -- look how much better the Vikes have gotten in their short time in TCF Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #123

Propositions I was surprised I didn't see/didn't see more of Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #122

amazing that i didnt see ERA mentioned up thread... JanMichael Jan 2016 #124

It's in a few posts Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #126

Burn it, don't write another one. frizzled Jan 2016 #129

Disagree 100% TeddyR Jan 2016 #134

Agreed. We should not worship a piece of paper but adhere to the concepts it spells out. randome Jan 2016 #135

We can't get some states TeddyR Jan 2016 #143

Make the presidential campaign public funded and have a 60 day period for doc03 Jan 2016 #137

Change the senate to reflect population. OnionPatch Jan 2016 #139

That's the nature of the 'grand compromise' HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #145

I do understand that. OnionPatch Jan 2016 #146

It does create one venue where tyranny of the majority can't be practiced HereSince1628 Jan 2016 #161

1 Protect the right to peacefully grow and use plants. WDIM Jan 2016 #151

My problem with #2 is that it invites corruption Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2016 #155

Corporations are not people. Money is not speech. The ERA is law. senz Jan 2016 #154

men are corruptable jeepers Jan 2016 #162

No gerrymandering. Vinca Jan 2016 #163

Make the 2A an unquestionable individual right. ileus Jan 2016 #166

make 2A so even REALLY STUPID PEOPLE can understand it Skittles Jan 2016 #168

I agree SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2016 #170

Might as well give the 2a crowd something to complain about for the next few years BainsBane Jan 2016 #171

I would most definitely NOT loyalsister Jan 2016 #172

term limits for Supreme Court Justices. nt clarice Jan 2016 #174

I wouldn't fiddle with it very saltpoint Jan 2016 #178

I can think of a few things. backscatter712 Jan 2016 #179