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18. Yeah, because.that's what I'm suggesting. Bzzzt. Not.

Sun Jan 3, 2016, 06:13 AM

Jan 2016

I am suggesting that a situation such as this, where no one is in danger of injury or death does not require an immediate violent response. In fact, I am suggesting that deescalation is always the best response in a situation like this one.

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Can you imagine? ..If a band of armed Muslims seized a Federal Bldg. to protect "one of their own"? [View all] 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 OP

It's on the local news here in Eugene, OR. n/t Binkie The Clown Jan 2016 #1

yes, in Portland news too, a brief 2 minute mention. Which is my point. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #2

Maybe you don't remember Ruby Ridge or David Koresh still_one Jan 2016 #3

What makes you think I don't recall Waco? nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #5

I was providing examples where force was used against non-Muslims still_one Jan 2016 #8

To be fair, Koresh wasn't exactly last week. Orrex Jan 2016 #22

Agreed. still_one Jan 2016 #24

It's time we treat racist gun nuts like the terrorists they are. Hoyt Jan 2016 #4

Yes. That IS my precisely point. Thank you. nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #6

I've seen the nickname Y'all Qaeda on Facebook nxylas Jan 2016 #9

I prefer Vanilla ISIS NobodyHere Jan 2016 #99

How do you propose the Government handle it? NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #32

The same way they'd treat Muslim, Mexicans or blacks? uponit7771 Jan 2016 #46

Is that the proper way to handle it? NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #49

Why is this even a question?!? uponit7771 Jan 2016 #53

Maybe violence should be a last resort? NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #55

2 new black panther movement fellows at a voting site kept Fox News going for 2 years or more. rusty quoin Jan 2016 #7

K&R nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #10

Looks like the feds don't want another Ruby Ridge, so they're moving slowly. SunSeeker Jan 2016 #11

They should ALL lose their right to own a gun. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #15

Definitely!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #26

Totally agree. If charged with felonies, that should do it. nt SunSeeker Jan 2016 #75

They should lose the PRIVILEGE of firearm ownership. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #88

Fair point. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #93

That's what I didn't understand about the last Bundy ranch thing. hollowdweller Jan 2016 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author cui bono Jan 2016 #12

remember what happened to the s.l.a. captainarizona Jan 2016 #13

Rizzo? jberryhill Jan 2016 #38

Philadelphia I imagine refers to the MOVE bombing in 1985 EX500rider Jan 2016 #41

Which didn't happen under Rizzo jberryhill Jan 2016 #47

They should get this response.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #14

They sure as hell should not. Supporting or condoning violence against cali Jan 2016 #16

Yeah,...we need to hold the hands of these delicate flowers. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #17

Yeah, because.that's what I'm suggesting. Bzzzt. Not. cali Jan 2016 #18

It should be MANDATORY for them to lose their guns. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #19

I have no problem with that. Prosecuted and convicted on felony charges, they will lose their cali Jan 2016 #20

So, unnecessarily risk the lives of soldiers? Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #58

That's what they would do if it were anyone else. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #59

Ah, so it's not that you think that going in with guns blazing is the correct response. Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #60

Why should these guys be any different? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #65

Do I really have to spell it out? Nye Bevan Jan 2016 #73

Just so you know, that picture is from "The Blues Brothers". Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #85

No they wouldnt jack_krass Jan 2016 #90

They will if these guys take their "Turner Diary" fantasy too far. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #97

Agreed, but that wasn't my point jack_krass Jan 2016 #103

That's what these asswipes WANT! 2naSalit Jan 2016 #69

Yeah,...because the majority supports these idiots. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #70

Not necessarily 2naSalit Jan 2016 #72

Rejoinder: Guns are banned at the NRA HQ. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #84

Just to be clear, my OP was not so much 'demanding swift military action' as it was 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #71

Which is why (all things being EQUAL) these guys should receive the same love. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #83

But all things are NOT equal, and I hate pretending they are n 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #86

Which is why the response to other protests need to be equally subdued. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #87

So maybe you'd like the FBI to bring these white terrorists cookies & hot chocolate? n/t 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #89

I'd like the FBI and the Cops to do that for Occupy protesters... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #92

Don't hold your breath. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #96

You're exactly right. Vinca Jan 2016 #21

That's because they are not terrorists (Yet). NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #23

They are doing this over both points ii. and iii MohRokTah Jan 2016 #28

But not the first part - Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #30

They violated federal law when they illegally entered and held the federal building. MohRokTah Jan 2016 #33

Acts dangerous to human life? NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #34

Armed and threatening violence MohRokTah Jan 2016 #35

Kay. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #36

They're terrorist, they're not threating to tickle people with their guns uponit7771 Jan 2016 #51

Sigh. The term has (had) a clear definition. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #54

Seeing your point here davekriss Jan 2016 #63

It is annoying. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #67

Please distinguish standing in the middle of an interstate highway jberryhill Jan 2016 #52

I guess you miss the import of the use of "or" here davekriss Jan 2016 #39

What are you reading? NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #40

B (iii), which is proceeded by the word, "or" davekriss Jan 2016 #43

You have to also meet clauses A and C. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #45

They are trespassing while armed davekriss Jan 2016 #48

Not under federal law. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #50

You again miss use of the word, "or" davekriss Jan 2016 #56

Acts that are dangerous to human life. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #57

Yes, one could make your argument davekriss Jan 2016 #61

We didn't use deadly force in the highway protests NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #62

See my reply to you up thread. :) davekriss Jan 2016 #64

Yes, the word loses meaning davekriss Jan 2016 #66

On that we do agree. NutmegYankee Jan 2016 #68

perhaps if the occupy movement had been well armed they would still have their camps dembotoz Jan 2016 #25

Re Rightwing Credo: THEY MUST DIE. Buzz Clik Jan 2016 #27

Not 200. Not 100. Not 50. Multiple reports put the number at no more than 15 cali Jan 2016 #29

I guess when they finally leave they'll meet at Denny's.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #42

LOL! Yep, no doubt!!! RKP5637 Jan 2016 #77

I believe you are correct. Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #31

Fox "News" would be demanding military action. tabasco Jan 2016 #37

They keep this up and someday we'll see Waco in the same way that we now view Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #44

just send in federal marshals wendylaroux Jan 2016 #74

This incident happened precisely because CanonRay Jan 2016 #76

Exactly, and our guvmint is repeating the same mistake, further emboldening more 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #78

If the Feds won't do anything CanonRay Jan 2016 #79

Yep. That's exactly what is playing out here. Very eye-opening 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #81

Your post is right on Renew Deal Jan 2016 #80

Thank you. As I just posted on another string .. The M$M and law enforcement are sending a message 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #82

The Oregon man and his son convicted of arson want nothing applegrove Jan 2016 #91

Yes, that's a well-known fact, and it changes nothing, including the deluded minds 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #94

These right wingers should be arrested rockfordfile Jan 2016 #98

So you think Obama would order a raid on BLM activists? NobodyHere Jan 2016 #100

Good point, but there's more to it. PatrickforO Jan 2016 #101

So you feel like the "we don't negotiate with terrorists" thing only applies to people of color? 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #102

It's not a fair game. I never said that. Nor do I believe it. PatrickforO Jan 2016 #105

Thank you for clarifying your thoughts on this travesty. That is helpful, to a point.. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #106

So, if a group of protesters decided to occupy Snobblevitch Jan 2016 #104