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Darb

(2,807 posts)
145. Thanks for asking.
Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:41 PM
Dec 2015

As written:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


The superior of the statement reads "A well regulated militia shall not be infringed". The two subordinant phrases are "being necessary to the security of a free state" and then "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms". The subordinants give support to the superior.

The way it is written leads to intent. The intent is to always have a militia at the ready because the founders did not intend to have a standing army. We now have a standing army. The militia is kind of mute, but I suppose could be likened to the national guard. But every kook be able to arm themselves to the teeth is nowhere in there.

As ratified it seems to me to confirm the above:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

This writing says "the right of the people to keep and bears arms shall not be infringed" is given SPECIFICALLY for the purpose of a militia and a free state.

Gun fetishists believe it says "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" only, as evidenced by their nom de guerre "RKBA".

There is no individual right to any and all arms.

All I want for Xmas .... Happy holiday gun shopping everyone( gonna guess not a lot of Person 2713 Dec 2015 #1
Those AR platforms make great hunting rifles, GGJohn Dec 2015 #10
AR-10? Travis_0004 Dec 2015 #19
Yes, AR-10. GGJohn Dec 2015 #22
Ok Travis_0004 Dec 2015 #34
I don't know, stop trying to enforce your fears on people? Shandris Dec 2015 #2
Thank you for that telepsychoanalysis, Dr. Riverside. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #3
The murder rate is going to skyrocket in this country. hifiguy Dec 2015 #4
The murder rate in the US has been declining for decades in the face of more gun sales linuxman Dec 2015 #63
Learn to flamingdem Dec 2015 #5
It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas, everywhere you go. Rex Dec 2015 #6
WTF makes you think that psychos were buying those firearms? GGJohn Dec 2015 #7
Republican Senate celebration at Democratic Underground. onehandle Dec 2015 #9
You do realize that a number of Dems also voted against it. GGJohn Dec 2015 #12
Found it. nt onehandle Dec 2015 #13
Still making shit up about other DUers, eh? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #27
The OP, and apparently you, support "confiscations and outright bans." branford Dec 2015 #86
Yeah, sane people run out and buy gunz after every mass shooting. Sane people promote gunz too. Hoyt Dec 2015 #39
Post your proof that these people are insane. GGJohn Dec 2015 #42
whurs muh beans? ileus Dec 2015 #104
^This. ncjustice80 Dec 2015 #92
+1 Agschmid Dec 2015 #155
Erection pills sales up too. onehandle Dec 2015 #8
How do I prepare? Maybe I should buy a gun. Throd Dec 2015 #11
Since you mention being realistic, who is it that goes out into the public and confiscates guns? Township75 Dec 2015 #14
People armed with guns will confiscate the guns. Throd Dec 2015 #18
Who?? Travis_0004 Dec 2015 #20
Just pointing out the irony of gun confiscation. Throd Dec 2015 #26
Who are those people? Township75 Dec 2015 #25
gun humpers are the biggest cowards on the planet Skittles Dec 2015 #15
WORD !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #16
Gun humpers infiltrate online forums from politics to needlepoint to push their agenda. onehandle Dec 2015 #21
driven by fear and paranoia Skittles Dec 2015 #87
+1 hifiguy Dec 2015 #23
Skittles rocks HERVEPA Dec 2015 #54
don't they realize guns killz people ileus Dec 2015 #106
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Dec 2015 #110
Yup. Agschmid Dec 2015 #156
Let me guess, you're not going to be on the door-to-door team. X_Digger Dec 2015 #17
Come on... you're just a Fact Humper, ain'tcha. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2015 #24
Of course not, 99% of gun prohibitionists are chickenhawks whose 'activism'... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #30
I need a link, please, so I can share. Thanks! nt babylonsister Dec 2015 #28
I am so sorry. I've just edited the OP and put in a link but here you go 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #29
Oh my god. msrizzo Dec 2015 #31
Why is this sickening? GGJohn Dec 2015 #32
It's gun poster guy! nt Logical Dec 2015 #33
It's the stalker guy. GGJohn Dec 2015 #36
Do you ever post about something besides guns? Like liberal causes? Etc? nt Logical Dec 2015 #37
I'm curious, GGJohn Dec 2015 #38
Just link to a real DU topic you posted. A liberal one. Just curious. nt Logical Dec 2015 #40
See post #38. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #45
OK, you must not understand what liberal topics are. I think I get it now. Looking forward..... Logical Dec 2015 #47
Again, see post #38. GGJohn Dec 2015 #50
Ok, I was wrong. Thank you! Nt Logical Dec 2015 #61
And thank you. eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #62
So you're against the death sentence for convicted criminals SecularMotion Dec 2015 #94
I have no problem with Americans defending themselves against GGJohn Dec 2015 #95
What do you say about the many mass shootings in this country? treestar Dec 2015 #90
What is your solution? GGJohn Dec 2015 #96
I just wondered if you had an opinion? treestar Dec 2015 #118
I've noticed this too, GGJohn you seem to have an alert set up for anything firearm related 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #48
Little old me turn a thread into a flame war? GGJohn Dec 2015 #53
Interesting. I appreciate your honesty on that. n/t 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #55
He is a cop apologist to. N/T ncjustice80 Dec 2015 #93
That's a lie, GGJohn Dec 2015 #99
Less of a liar than you. ncjustice80 Dec 2015 #158
Pure coumedy gold. GGJohn Dec 2015 #159
Than you would be mistaken. ncjustice80 Dec 2015 #160
This is just more comedy gold. GGJohn Dec 2015 #161
Oh its the love boat baby. ncjustice80 Dec 2015 #162
Oooh, that's deep. GGJohn Dec 2015 #163
Ahhhh, run out of stuff to say? ncjustice80 Dec 2015 #164
Maybe you should learn what humor really is. GGJohn Dec 2015 #165
Tah-tah! ncjustice80 Dec 2015 #166
I dunno. tosh Dec 2015 #167
Those smilies have absolutely nothing to do with these shootings. GGJohn Dec 2015 #168
Wow. tosh Dec 2015 #170
This wasn't even about firearms, GGJohn Dec 2015 #171
What does that have to do with being a 2A progressive? ileus Dec 2015 #108
You must be so happy! More gun carnage today! Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #144
Yeah, I'm just so fucking thrilled. GGJohn Dec 2015 #149
So can we count on you to be in the fore front of the confiscation teams? GGJohn Dec 2015 #35
Gunners like to intimidate people, but it ain't working any more. Hoyt Dec 2015 #41
+1 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #43
Care to answer the question that was posed to you? eom. GGJohn Dec 2015 #49
You find my post intimidating? GGJohn Dec 2015 #46
Typical gunner Molon Labe BS. Hoyt Dec 2015 #57
I don't even know what that means. GGJohn Dec 2015 #58
Of course you do. You are always posting the "come and get em" retort. Hoyt Dec 2015 #59
What flag is popular among firearm owners Hoyt. GGJohn Dec 2015 #60
Popular flag among gunners and the "come and take em" crowd. Hoyt Dec 2015 #66
That's the first time I've ever seen that. GGJohn Dec 2015 #67
You do use the "come and take em" argument a lot. And yoy go to gun shows and ranges, Hoyt Dec 2015 #68
Once again, Hoyt, that's the first time I've ever seen that flag, GGJohn Dec 2015 #69
If you've been to a gun show or posted on Discussionist, you've seen it. Hoyt Dec 2015 #71
ONE MORE TIME HOYT, GGJohn Dec 2015 #74
I know, you've never even heard the NRA's "from my cold dead hands.". Pretty much same thing. Hoyt Dec 2015 #77
Are you calling me a liar Hoyt? GGJohn Dec 2015 #78
I guess you are the only 2nd Amendment type who is not aware of Molon Labe. Hoyt Dec 2015 #80
Maybe I am, GGJohn Dec 2015 #81
You're not. I too have been to numerous gun shows, and the only place ... 11 Bravo Dec 2015 #117
Gunners intimidate? Didn't the OP suggest bans and confiscation of peoples property? Now Waldorf Dec 2015 #72
The poor pitiful plight of those who fancy gunz in our society. Hoyt Dec 2015 #73
"come and get em" junk. GGJohn Dec 2015 #75
Sure treestar Dec 2015 #89
I sure hope you're prepared for CW2, GGJohn Dec 2015 #97
Good luck with that. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #107
You're right Liz, 308 mass shootings is a small fraction of the 12,166 gun deaths so far this year 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #115
Encouraging? Not in the least. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #140
So they are a small fraction treestar Dec 2015 #120
Of course it doesn't mean that. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #141
I'm prepared sarisataka Dec 2015 #44
Enough with the "psycho" babble loyalsister Dec 2015 #51
Did you get your degree in telepsychology from the same school the OP did? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2015 #52
lol Go Vols Dec 2015 #134
Hmmm. GGJohn Dec 2015 #56
lol...there isn't anyone doing any confiscation and it is ludicrous to suggest it... pipoman Dec 2015 #64
Oh, you can keep your guns but... 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #70
No it isn’t going to get to any such point pipoman Dec 2015 #76
"you are living in a fantasy land" ...That's not very nice, pipoman 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #82
I'm not trying to win anyone over to any cause pipoman Dec 2015 #85
Move to Europe. Very inconvenient. roody Dec 2015 #65
Mass shootngs are incredibley rare, as are all gun deaths caused by rifles. Snobblevitch Dec 2015 #79
I wouldn't call 308 mass shootings this year alone "incredibley" rare... 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #83
But I have lancer78 Dec 2015 #88
so it's OK that they happen? treestar Dec 2015 #91
I just love how some here put words in others mouths. GGJohn Dec 2015 #98
They said it was rare treestar Dec 2015 #119
Cancer is incredibly rare too. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #105
I was watching some Vice dispatches tonight and something struck a cord. Marrah_G Dec 2015 #84
You're right that fear will do nothing to stop it... Zing Zing Zingbah Dec 2015 #101
So how should I go about preparing for all the mass shootings? Zing Zing Zingbah Dec 2015 #100
I'm curious how many of these checks were for first time buyers vs. existing owners LonePirate Dec 2015 #102
You want to repeal the 2A? GGJohn Dec 2015 #111
Yes, it needs to be repealed as it is a menace to our society LonePirate Dec 2015 #113
Well then, you need to get started right away. GGJohn Dec 2015 #114
So in your plan , who does the confiscating? Township75 Dec 2015 #116
Blood in the streets!!! ileus Dec 2015 #103
In the town of New Haven... KamaAina Dec 2015 #151
It's reassuring to know that... trumad Dec 2015 #109
Awwwww. GGJohn Dec 2015 #112
Earning your keep today I see. Darb Dec 2015 #125
This is scary. It means more mass shootings, more cops killing unarmed civilians ecstatic Dec 2015 #121
Have you heard of the US Constitution? leftynyc Dec 2015 #122
Yes I have and so have they.... 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #128
So because there are assholes in TX leftynyc Dec 2015 #130
I don't think the 2A says what you think it says. Darb Dec 2015 #129
The judges on the supreme court leftynyc Dec 2015 #132
Wrong again. Words matter. Darb Dec 2015 #133
Spare me the drama leftynyc Dec 2015 #138
Frankly, you don't know Darb Dec 2015 #139
I see I'm dealing with an infantile leftynyc Dec 2015 #146
Leaving legal opinion aside and concentrating on the linguistics... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2015 #142
Thanks for asking. Darb Dec 2015 #145
Foreign ?...or domestic psychos ? ....let me guess which one you meant....lol. nt clarice Dec 2015 #123
Both and I don't see how that's funny 951-Riverside Dec 2015 #126
Chill....I didn't say it was funny. And there is no POINT, just a question. nt clarice Dec 2015 #131
Dumb article. Hunting season just opened up. GOLGO 13 Dec 2015 #124
Gun season is over in Michigan. It's bow and arrow season now. Pathwalker Dec 2015 #136
Don't worry, just humpers humpin'. Darb Dec 2015 #127
Well they didn't wait malaise Dec 2015 #135
The coming year? KamaAina Dec 2015 #137
And Trump's got them all ginned up. Vinca Dec 2015 #143
You called it and you live in riverside Liberal_in_LA Dec 2015 #147
Quite prescient ErikJ Dec 2015 #148
Fuck the Second Amendment straight to hell. Daniel537 Dec 2015 #150
Some of the bible thumping gun nuts probably think the 2nd Amendment Zing Zing Zingbah Dec 2015 #153
That's how they sound whenever they spout off about "da constituuuuuuuuuuuuuuution" Daniel537 Dec 2015 #154
And some of them are right here on DU. n/t Crunchy Frog Dec 2015 #169
There were two others today RandySF Dec 2015 #152
And Gun TV valerief Dec 2015 #157
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