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MADem

(135,425 posts)
255. I am astounded at how many atheists are throwing out "rules" for a belief system that they insist
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:48 AM
Dec 2015

is NOT a belief system. If it wasn't a belief system, there'd be no rules!

does "race to the top" count? nt msongs Nov 2015 #1
Not sure but I think this may not be the place for that discussion. libdem4life Nov 2015 #2
Heathen footinmouth Nov 2015 #3
Atheism is a religion. onehandle Nov 2015 #4
Kindly educate yourself. LiberalAndProud Nov 2015 #10
Atheism is an absolute. onehandle Nov 2015 #12
Your outlook is ridiculous. LiberalAndProud Nov 2015 #13
I agree. If atheists gather and talk about their Snobblevitch Nov 2015 #14
What an incredibly ignorant statement. What do atheists worship? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #17
What do Shinto practicioners worship? MADem Nov 2015 #43
That's a right wing Christian myth, Consevapedia and FreeRepublic claim atheism is a religion too. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #44
DU now seems to feature a reichwing meme of the day. hifiguy Nov 2015 #101
I noticed that too. Makes you wonder where else these people hang out. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #102
What do we worship? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #45
You'd have to ask those people at all those Sunday Assemblies. MADem Nov 2015 #47
That poster said we worship and you argued the point so I'm asking you. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #49
I wasn't the one who said "They gather to worship." MADem Nov 2015 #50
Then why did you answer for them? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #52
Well, take it up with the official forms people at varying governments, then! MADem Nov 2015 #58
They're not here. Are you claiming bald is a hair colour now? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #61
I am not going to argue with it as a way of identifying the characteristics of a person's MADem Nov 2015 #62
Is bald a hair colour or not? Here's the dictionary definition if you need assistance: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #63
It's a category used to identify hair color, just like brown, black and grey! MADem Nov 2015 #65
Is bald a hair colour or not? It's a simple question, yes or no? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #67
How many times do I have to repeat what i said before you understand? MADem Nov 2015 #70
It's a yes or no question, why won't you answer it? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #72
Apparently--and this angers you because you keep asking the question--it is NOT a "yes or no" MADem Nov 2015 #73
Actually I knew you couldn't prove it, I just wanted to watch you try. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #74
Dropping the ball, pulling out the hat tip emoticon, running away from the argument, and MADem Nov 2015 #151
Do you worship fairies? Yorktown Nov 2015 #140
It wouldn't matter if I believed in ghosts or imps or MADem Nov 2015 #142
And? Yorktown Nov 2015 #147
One person's evidence is another person's tall tale. MADem Nov 2015 #148
In that respect, I believe equally in god and fairies Yorktown Nov 2015 #152
Because not believing in fairies is the same thing believing in fairies, amirite? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #159
You keep trying so darn hard to get personal with me. It isn't working. MADem Nov 2015 #164
Now that you finally admitted that atheism isn't a religion we're all done! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #169
It's kind of sad how you always try to play that "Now that you've finally admitted" game when MADem Nov 2015 #172
Tl, dr! :) beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #173
Ha ha ha....of COURSE you didn't! Can't have those paradigms challenged, can we? MADem Nov 2015 #176
*yawn* beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #178
Declare victory/TLDR/yawn--you'd be better off just buckling down and learning something. MADem Nov 2015 #181
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........... beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #183
So much effort to try to suggest you don't care! MADem Nov 2015 #185
These are the same folks who will bleat about pastafarianism not being "a real religion" Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #242
The hypocrisy is unbelievable. Stereotyping, intolerance, redefining words, just like Conservapedia. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #244
Is this semantics? Funtatlaguy Nov 2015 #76
I've never been either but that sounds exactly like what they do. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #78
So any group that gets together on a regular basis is a religion? Warren Stupidity Nov 2015 #84
No. But a group that gets together, has ministers, gets an IRS tax exemption in USA, and MADem Nov 2015 #162
"No." So atheism is not a religion? Good! Glad you finally figured that out! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #166
Noooooo, post 162. The IRS has recognized atheists as a faith group. MADem Nov 2015 #190
Where are those Atheist Churches? Yorktown Nov 2015 #139
All over the world. Go to Youtube, punch in Sunday Assembly, and watch what pops up. MADem Nov 2015 #195
Yeah, right, and you accept the term 'Church' at face value, surely? Yorktown Nov 2015 #199
Well, if these congregations aren't screeching and whining about it, why should I? MADem Nov 2015 #207
You raised a straw man Yorktown Nov 2015 #209
No, I did not. And that game-playing just ain't cutting it anymore. MADem Nov 2015 #210
Wow. Atheist churches are all over the net. And they are the future? Yorktown Nov 2015 #211
They're also all over "Real Life." Which works even when the power goes out. MADem Nov 2015 #212
why, our "nonbeliefs" of course.. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #104
Right? I love how people expose their prejudices in threads like this. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #105
Some people are really threatened by unbelievers. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #235
Maybe they'll evolve. It just takes some people longer to learn to be tolerant. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #239
Atheism is a religion, derp! Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #240
Bald is a hair colour, derp! Because the government said so! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #241
Critical thinking is just another exercise in pursuing unsubstantiated bullshit! Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #243
Believing in fairies is just as rational as not believing in them! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #245
There's a cat for that feeling. hifiguy Nov 2015 #247
Foxholes, obviously (nt) cemaphonic Nov 2015 #196
And science. That's my favourite. :) beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #205
Some atheists seem to worship their smug sense of superiority FrodosPet Dec 2015 #371
Sure, many outspoken minorities seem uppity to certain kinds of people. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #372
Everyone has the right to be an obnoxious asshole. FrodosPet Dec 2015 #373
Well I'll just have to take your word for that, my sneering, self-righteous friend. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #374
their smug sense of superiority AlbertCat Dec 2015 #375
Some religionistas seem to worship their smug sense of superiority mr blur Dec 2015 #376
This is truth. FrodosPet Dec 2015 #377
I'm sorry, but weren't you just complaining about a smug sense of superiority? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2015 #379
And the irony is lost on you as you say this with your own smug sense of superiority. cleanhippie Dec 2015 #383
Funny, that's exactly what I've observed skepticscott Dec 2015 #385
Atheists may not worship anything, but ... JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2015 #85
Thats why I most times madokie Nov 2015 #115
Years ago I used to refer to myself as agnostic because the label 'atheist' makes you a target. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #117
I do know the feeling madokie Nov 2015 #118
Me too, had a couple of close calls and never prayed. Never even thought about it. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #120
What laughable nonsense. mr blur Nov 2015 #79
The terms atheist and agnostic are not mutually exclusive MillennialDem Nov 2015 #215
Sarcasm tag missing? lapislzi Nov 2015 #227
come on dude. Mr Dixon Dec 2015 #354
Atheists preach their faith to others AlbertCat Dec 2015 #378
If atheism is a religion bald is a hair colour and barefoot is a shoe. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #16
Yes. And vegetables are a type of meat eaten by vegetarians. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #81
Yep, and abstinence is a sexual position. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #82
On my government loan application, under spouse, I was instructed to write "none" or "N/A" if single Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2015 #88
Lol! That bald being a hair colour canard because...driver's licences is the same thing. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #99
LOL. Not a very popular one though. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #91
Well you can't get an std from abstinence. :) beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #100
Except for disease-free which is actually a type of STD you get from abstinence. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #111
Lol! Perfect! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #112
Um, no? Lordquinton Nov 2015 #18
He is de facto atheist... TipTok Nov 2015 #146
What you think is agnosticism is also a type of atheism. nt LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #22
Now you've done it---you're in BIG TROUBLE! MADem Nov 2015 #26
On other parts of the internet, people don't mind the reference to atheism as a religion~! AlbertCat Nov 2015 #30
I think they're referring to right wing conservative websites. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #31
If not BIG TROUBLE, then a "put down scold!" MADem Nov 2015 #33
Where do they claim that atheism is a religion? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #37
Religions have congregations and services.... MADem Nov 2015 #46
Nice gish gallop, but where do the people in the articles you cited claim atheism is a religion? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #48
Gish gallop? You're telling me those people at those Sunday Assemblies are not atheists? MADem Nov 2015 #51
Now you're trying to move the goalposts. The question is whether atheism is a religion. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #53
Even the courts--and the Washington Post--agree with my friends' POV: MADem Nov 2015 #54
That doesn't prove it's a religion, try again. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #55
I said it was a BELIEF SYSTEM. You keep throwing out the R word--and some atheists apparently MADem Nov 2015 #57
Because that was the claim we objected to, that atheism is a religion: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #60
There are atheist ministers. If they want to call it a religion, I don't quibble. MADem Nov 2015 #64
An atheist didn't make the claim, a non-atheist did. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #66
I am not trying to "prove" anything--you are. MADem Nov 2015 #68
It's not my job to disprove that poster's claim, and again they're not an atheist. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #69
Since you failed to prove to me that it's not, I guess we are! MADem Nov 2015 #71
Burden of Proof fallacy LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #137
Sorry, not buying that lame argument. MADem Nov 2015 #144
Whether you buy it or not your argument is still based on a fallacy. LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #149
Only if you are the center of the universe--and you're not. MADem Nov 2015 #150
There is no belief or claim in atheism LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #153
Another "jazzy" dictionary definition? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #156
Ambrose Bierce is my Shepard LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #158
Well there goes the theory that you believe you're the center of the universe. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #160
You're not God, either! MADem Nov 2015 #216
That whole reply to me was a fallacy LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #224
After all that, my reply to you is this--NEITHER ARE YOU! MADem Nov 2015 #230
I never claimed to own it, I am just using the actual definition instead of your fantasy nt LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #232
Ah, yes "The ACTUAL DEFINITION" ... was that transmitted to you by some deity? MADem Dec 2015 #250
More links PROVING you wrong LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #226
See, they aren't God EITHER! And listen to you, with your "actual atheist" snobbery! MADem Nov 2015 #229
Did you not even bother to read my replies? LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #237
But but but 162! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #246
You keep trying to insist that there are "rules" to atheism, and you're trying to act like the MADem Dec 2015 #251
Wow, you really have no freaking clue about anything you are talking about in this thread do you? LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #256
You should watch the videos, and listen to what the PEOPLE are saying. It would help you understand MADem Dec 2015 #257
No you were banned for telling people what to think just like you are trying to do now LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #262
'The linked source is spinning his words, it's a right wing rag run by the Heritage Foundation.' MADem Dec 2015 #263
Yes they can see what you said. LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #270
The Sunday Assembly is not a borg. And unlike you, they have no doctrine or dogma. MADem Dec 2015 #279
And still you have nothing. nt LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #280
Einstein and Dworkin are "nothing" eh? OK! MADem Dec 2015 #282
You discredit your own sources Lordquinton Dec 2015 #284
Who aren't racists. Reading is fundamental, you know.... MADem Dec 2015 #286
No, just your arguments are nothing. Because you don't even understand the basic argument. LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #302
Beautiful Lordquinton Dec 2015 #303
*LO4E drops mic and walks offstage* beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #305
I provided links that stated otherwise. Not sure where you get the authority to make that claim. MADem Dec 2015 #308
I read the links from Dworkins and Einstein, no they dont say otherwise. LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #321
Wait a minute Lordquinton Dec 2015 #281
OH SNAP! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #283
Dead white racist atheists...I don't think these two wanted to kill any Muslims! MADem Dec 2015 #285
Richard P. Feynman Lordquinton Dec 2015 #289
Why bring up a pair of skeptics who weren't atheists? Are you name dropping? MADem Dec 2015 #291
Feynman was an atheist Lordquinton Dec 2015 #298
He could not have been, no matter how he might have labeled himself. MADem Dec 2015 #304
Ok, here in his words, a link Lordquinton Dec 2015 #306
"Feynman: An atheist. Agnostic for me would be trying to weasel out and sound a little nicer..." beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #309
It's pretty clear that, no matter what he said in response to that question, that he was uncertain. MADem Dec 2015 #310
Agnostic atheists aren't certain, that's why it's called 'agnostic' atheism - still atheism. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #311
There you go with the wikipedia again! Great link...not! nt MADem Dec 2015 #319
Beats using MADem for a source. :) beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #320
You should check your work. Or not. nt MADem Dec 2015 #324
More: beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #326
Gee, look at all that dogma and doctrine! MADem Dec 2015 #328
I didn't think you would understand, it's never easy for fundamentalist thinkers. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #329
Nothing to do with black and white--it has to do with what the gentleman actually said. MADem Dec 2015 #331
Read through all of the definitions again and let me know which parts are confusing you. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #333
Oh snap! ZOMG (to quote you) ....I don't think so. You've nothing to add. nt MADem Dec 2015 #336
So you refuse to even try to learn about agnostic atheism, how unexpected! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #338
We gave you the Oxford dictionary but you don't believe that either. nt LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #322
You obviously didn't click on that link before you snarked at me. nt MADem Dec 2015 #323
You mean this one? LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #325
No--one similar to it, that went nowhere. MADem Dec 2015 #334
I am aware of that post 325 has no edits. nt LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #337
Unbelievable Lordquinton Dec 2015 #312
And then he acknowledges there is a possibility (albeit a low one) that he could be wrong. MADem Dec 2015 #314
"You might try reading what people write." Lordquinton Dec 2015 #316
As I said, and you're ignoring, he qualified his response with his waffling in the next paragraph. MADem Dec 2015 #317
A thought experiment for you: cemaphonic Dec 2015 #357
This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #307
Why do the atheists have to be dead? Live ones can't define atheism because... beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #293
You can keep running around and cheerleading those who are contributing to the conversation if you'd MADem Dec 2015 #296
I don't understand why you can't stop telling us we practice a religion because we say so. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #300
Well, I'm not really conversing with you. You keep jumping in with your booya stuff, MADem Dec 2015 #313
I asked a question. Why do you keep telling us what we think and believe? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #315
You're all over this thread like a kid playing the dozens. Oh snap! MADem Dec 2015 #318
And yet you're the one refusing to learn about agnostic atheism. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #340
Yep, that's why they were banned alright. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #265
I remember reading that thread when it happened Lordquinton Dec 2015 #267
Is Thomas Aquinas one of those "dead, white racist angry atheists" too? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #269
Well, not an atheist Lordquinton Dec 2015 #271
Oops, I got confused. So much misinformation in this one thread I just can't keep track of it all. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #272
And Oxford University and the Religious Tolerance Website are devoted to Genocide of the religious LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #273
Oh! This must be performance art! That explains it! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #274
It is confusing here at times Lordquinton Dec 2015 #275
There seems to be a need for some to redefine a minority/movement whenever they get too uppity. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #276
I think this comic sums it up perfectly LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #277
EXACTLY! That could be any uppity minority saying "NO" to the majority! beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #278
Turns out Aquinas is (was) racist! Lordquinton Dec 2015 #292
Well in order to be correct one has to be dead, white, non-racist and an atheist. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #295
You can think whatever you'd like. You just can't tell others what to think. MADem Dec 2015 #287
So disregard anyone in hostory who was racist? Lordquinton Dec 2015 #290
You're going a little far afield, here. MADem Dec 2015 #294
I'm takign your refutation to it's logical conclusion Lordquinton Dec 2015 #299
No, you're not doing that at all. MADem Dec 2015 #327
No one is getting riled up about the Sunday Assembly but you. Most of us are indifferent to them LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #330
You don't really know a thing about me. And bigger letters doesn't make it "better." MADem Dec 2015 #332
Oh? Please provide quotes from every single member saying so LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #335
You could look at the videos I have offered in this thread.... MADem Dec 2015 #347
Your first video (the short one) didn't say a word about atheism being a religion LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #353
More sunday assembly people saying it is not a religion LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #356
If I was a senior citizen I could simply zoom in the page. nt LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #339
That's what "I" do! LOL!!! nt MADem Dec 2015 #346
That's an openly ageist slur Orrex Dec 2015 #343
Ha ha ha! MADem Dec 2015 #345
It's kind of pathetic, actually. Orrex Dec 2015 #349
I don't know why you think that older atheists are the mouthy activists and the millenials aren't cemaphonic Dec 2015 #361
I am not "enamoured," but I am fascinated. MADem Dec 2015 #387
They said without a trace of irony after insisting only dead, white, non-racist atheists count. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #301
BOOM! There it is: "Sunday Assembly is a secular community" beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #266
You are hilarious. Link after link from credible sources proving you wrong and still you dig in. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #238
Why are the opinions of dead, white racist angry atheists "credible?" I don't think bigots are MADem Dec 2015 #260
ZOMG! ALL of the people in those links are "dead, white racist angry atheists"? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #261
Oh YEAH LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #358
Well, you need to listen to the people in attendance, too. MADem Dec 2015 #384
The Sunday Assembly is inclusive LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #386
Well done, LO4E!!! I can't believe they're still pretending their definition is correct. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #236
Another fail! Strawman! Agnostic atheists don't "claim to have all the answers". beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #154
Don't you just love the referee meme? nt LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #155
I do! So many fallacies and they covered them all. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #157
One of the best recent memes. hifiguy Nov 2015 #228
The referee meme only works if you speak from a position of authority, which clearly, you do not. MADem Nov 2015 #193
But all that YOU offer is "lame arguments"! I really can't work out whether - mr blur Nov 2015 #192
Take it up with the founders of Sunday Assemblies. They're all over the world, MADem Nov 2015 #194
No, it's not a "belief system" either and that's why it is not a "religion" rjsquirrel Dec 2015 #350
What percentage of atheists have a symbol on their tombstone? Yorktown Nov 2015 #141
Actually, atheists sued for it for many years. MADem Nov 2015 #143
I knew that, it does not address my point Yorktown Nov 2015 #145
Well, given that the symbol is relatively new, you're probably accurate. MADem Nov 2015 #213
I think these guys are atheists: AlbertCat Nov 2015 #38
That's some serious performance art, for the sake of "satire." MADem Nov 2015 #42
Tax scam! Support our mission, send your tax exempt donations here. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #123
What is a religion? A set of beliefs, principles, guidelines that people adhere to, in an organized MADem Nov 2015 #134
So AA is a religion? A book club? What about volunteers at a shelter? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #163
I will suggest--again--that you check out the links at post 162. MADem Nov 2015 #165
I don't see where any of them define atheism as a religion. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #167
You obviously didn't read them very carefully. Why am I not surprised? MADem Nov 2015 #170
Like I said, you've seen the error of your ways so there's really no need to continue. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #171
Again--there has been no "error of my ways" --trying to pretend otherwise is a real loser MADem Nov 2015 #174
Tl, dr! :) beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #175
Of course--the smell of burning rubber is strong in these parts! MADem Nov 2015 #179
*yawn* beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #180
Post 162. nt MADem Nov 2015 #182
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....... beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #184
162! nt MADem Nov 2015 #186
I've always found DU to be good at calling out rank stupidity. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2015 #89
I've found DU to be uniquely gifted at beating pointless topics to death, too. MADem Nov 2015 #93
Wanna hear how Du can warp one's real life. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2015 #95
Yes MFrohike Nov 2015 #161
Heh. onehandle Nov 2015 #92
The bible belt, well that explains where you got the bigoted stereotype about atheism. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #97
Conformation Bias Lordquinton Nov 2015 #98
What faith would that be? nt RedCappedBandit Nov 2015 #106
I think you'd like these Sunday Assembly types. MADem Nov 2015 #220
Atheism is a religion like lack-of-measles is a disease Orrex Nov 2015 #217
Tell that to the IRS! And the Veteran's Administration! nt MADem Nov 2015 #218
Why should I? I don't represent atheism or atheists. Orrex Nov 2015 #219
You would tell them your comment about measles. MADem Nov 2015 #221
Still means nothing to me. Orrex Nov 2015 #222
It's not an "issue" for me. It's a topic of interest. MADem Nov 2015 #231
You still haven't explained why you think the lack of religion is a religion. Orrex Nov 2015 #248
I'll say it one more time--who am I to judge? MADem Dec 2015 #249
But of course you *are* judging, from start to finish. Orrex Dec 2015 #252
No, I'm not--but you sure are. Here you are, continuing to "make the rules" for the atheists! MADem Dec 2015 #254
Certainly you are--again and again throughout this thread Orrex Dec 2015 #258
No, I'm not. I'm simply talking about one specific religion of atheists called the Sunday Assembly. MADem Dec 2015 #259
Yes, you are. You've been judging me and others in nearly every one of your posts Orrex Dec 2015 #264
Now you're down to name calling? Judgmental? A hypocrite? An outright liar? THAT's what you call MADem Dec 2015 #268
I called you judgmental and a hypocrite because you *are* a judgmental hypocrite Orrex Dec 2015 #341
That is simply not true. You're just angry that I don't agree with YOUR opinions, and so you MADem Dec 2015 #344
I call you judgmental because you're constantly judging everyone Orrex Dec 2015 #348
Atheism is a religion. Agnostic is not religious. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #35
I'm not sure MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #363
Wow TransitJohn Nov 2015 #87
Ha ha. Riiiiiight. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #90
You clearly don't have a basic understanding of either word. RedCappedBandit Nov 2015 #108
I see quite a few dumb statements on message boards - TBF Nov 2015 #114
"Atheism is a religion" is a completely moronic statement. Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #225
Some light reading. From that Dworkin "moron." MADem Dec 2015 #288
And who made Dworkin the pope of atheism? beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #297
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #234
No I don't think so rockfordfile Dec 2015 #388
Infidel. backscatter712 Nov 2015 #5
Adding Atheist does not help. I'd suggest a self delete. Seriously.* libdem4life Nov 2015 #6
It's the <blank> race. The occupants of "Nobody Home." immoderate Nov 2015 #7
People grow up believing some things saltpoint Nov 2015 #8
Its not genetic. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #9
we are in every so called race. JanMichael Nov 2015 #11
i don't even understand the question.... Takket Nov 2015 #15
Probably has to do with calling Islam or Muslim a "race" Fumesucker Nov 2015 #56
That's how I took it as well. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #75
People who do are hifiguy Nov 2015 #107
I am pretty sure the answer is Kalidurga Nov 2015 #19
Fight? I think the answer is science!! riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #20
No Math no Science Kalidurga Nov 2015 #21
A brother from a different mother? riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #23
Okay Pi then Kalidurga Nov 2015 #24
Ha! ZombieHorde Nov 2015 #177
No. Race isn't a matter of belief or non-belief. But our Constitution pnwmom Nov 2015 #25
Marathon JHB Nov 2015 #27
Its a drag race DJ13 Nov 2015 #28
I don't even understand what point you are trying to make. Shoulders of Giants Nov 2015 #29
42 herding cats Nov 2015 #32
Which is also the number of angels who can dance on the head of a pin. GoneOffShore Nov 2015 #94
Occam's Razor ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #223
Race and religion are both human constructs. Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #34
^^^THIS^^^ valerief Nov 2015 #109
Um? I'm not either, but don't understand this post. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #36
Well done. Behind the Aegis Nov 2015 #39
Explain it to me then, please? herding cats Nov 2015 #41
See post #56 Behind the Aegis Nov 2015 #86
Thanks. herding cats Nov 2015 #133
We atheists don't race, we stop to smell the roses Fearless Nov 2015 #40
I'm guessing this is really about Muslims and Islamophobia CrawlingChaos Nov 2015 #59
I think you're right. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #96
What is a "New Atheist?" nt valerief Nov 2015 #110
I can show you: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #113
Atheists that despise Muslims and often are closely associated with the neocons cpwm17 Nov 2015 #116
Really? Then why do they call Daniel Dennett a 'new' atheist? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #119
I wouldn't call PZ Myers a "new atheist". cpwm17 Nov 2015 #121
The term is used as a slur by anti-atheist bigots, and I notice you didn't eliminate Dennett, why? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #122
No, I'm criticizing right-wing atheists. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #124
No, new atheists do not "tend to be pro-war, or at least rather bigoted". beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #125
When Sam Harris is criticized for his pro-war stance and bigotry cpwm17 Nov 2015 #126
So what? Are all Muslims jihadists because some bigots associate them with Bin Laden? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #127
I'm using the commonly used definition. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #129
"their own definition"? Do new atheists own Wikipedia and IEP now? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #130
A movement that produces, defends, and promotes such characters as Sam Harris cpwm17 Nov 2015 #191
That sounds like what men said about the women's movement. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #201
I'm strongly pro-atheist, as I am one. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #203
Again you failed to prove your definition is accurate. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #204
Here's wikipedia on "new atheists": cpwm17 Nov 2015 #206
Dennett is WONDERFUL. hifiguy Nov 2015 #197
He certainly is. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #198
Dennett's ability to metaphorically hang the Abrahamic religions hifiguy Nov 2015 #200
Absolutely perfect description! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #202
Harris and the late Hitchens don't despise Muslims. They despise the text and what it teaches. LiberalAndProud Nov 2015 #131
Oh no, Hitchens despised Muslims. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #135
Youtube is full of videos in their own words. LiberalAndProud Nov 2015 #136
Hitchens' attitude is no secret. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #138
He did admit he was wrong on some things Lordquinton Dec 2015 #351
I remember that, now that you mention it. cpwm17 Dec 2015 #352
I despise Islam Matrosov Dec 2015 #360
Nobody, religions are objectively wrong and from just what you wrote there cpwm17 Dec 2015 #362
Religion or lack thereof is not a race madville Nov 2015 #77
What's "race" got to do with atheism? Vinca Nov 2015 #80
I love how this thread reveals the subconscious self-loathing of religious folks whatthehey Nov 2015 #83
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #233
Race is a social construct rather than a biological division. Make your own categories Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #103
We're all atheists, even you Christians Boomer Nov 2015 #128
more Ernst Bloch, yay! MisterP Dec 2015 #253
Why? It is a belief system. Are you upset with believing in something? Rex Nov 2015 #132
There are no beliefs in atheism. We are the null set if anything nt LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #168
Atheism is a lack of belief in gods, but many atheists hold many false beliefs. ZombieHorde Nov 2015 #187
Completely correct! Especially about country music :D nt LostOne4Ever Nov 2015 #188
I am astounded at how many atheists are throwing out "rules" for a belief system that they insist MADem Dec 2015 #255
Is mathematics a belief system? ozone_man Dec 2015 #364
I am astounded at how you don't know the difference between a rule and a definition LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #366
If it's not a belief system, why does it have churches and congregations? MADem Dec 2015 #367
Churches and congregations does not a religion make. nt LostOne4Ever Dec 2015 #368
Lack of religious belief is not a belief system. beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #369
Not having a religion is not a religion. cpwm17 Dec 2015 #381
I think these people are messing with the definitions, then. MADem Dec 2015 #382
speak for yourself and leave me the fuck alone. alphafemale Nov 2015 #189
Thread win Orrex Dec 2015 #342
I don't see how atheism can be put into as a "race" or ethnicity sakabatou Nov 2015 #208
No... Deuce Nov 2015 #214
Whatever else can be said about it, this was a very successful drive-by. Orrex Dec 2015 #355
no. it is def not a race. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2015 #359
It would be intolerant of us to ever call white a color again. LanternWaste Dec 2015 #365
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This should have been locked long ago. See rules for GD yellowcanine Dec 2015 #380
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