By that standard. . . . (Reply #39) - Democratic Underground

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39. By that standard. . . .

An unemployed white person has no power and can not be racist, yet a black CEO has tremendous power and the ability to be racist.

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144 replies	Author	Time	Post
This will get ugly: can a non white person be racist?! [View all]	w0nderer	Nov 2015	OP
Anybody can be racist.	Travis_0004	Nov 2015	#1
+1	Waldorf	Nov 2015	#9
Yes. +1	840high	Nov 2015	#69
Well Duh hu ++1	Vincardog	Nov 2015	#85
Correct, +1	greytdemocrat	Nov 2015	#96
Presently, yes.	Lizzie Poppet	Nov 2015	#2
If you benefit from a racist system, are you a racist, even if you	Agnosticsherbet	Nov 2015	#3
Don't you mean "privileged"?	Shankapotomus	Nov 2015	#25
That is something that bothers me.	Agnosticsherbet	Nov 2015	#30
Exactly...in the USA the privilege is tipped against minorities and for Whites.	vaberella	Nov 2015	#47
We are all immersed in s racist system.	Agnosticsherbet	Nov 2015	#53
That is the Sociological definition	AgingAmerican	Nov 2015	#75
We've went over this before....no only white folks can be racist.	ileus	Nov 2015	#4
Anyone can be A racist	AgingAmerican	Nov 2015	#76
+1	darkangel218	Nov 2015	#86
POCs can be biased but in this country, built from the beginning on white supremacy, . . .	brush	Nov 2015	#130
I take it you've never been to prison	Facility Inspector	Nov 2015	#95
I dunno. Ask Louis Farrakhan.	KamaAina	Nov 2015	#5
....x10	840high	Nov 2015	#70
Of course, a non-white person can be racist. Anyone can.	ManiacJoe	Nov 2015	#6
Sure a non white can be racist.	Marrah_G	Nov 2015	#7
Yes they can.	romanic	Nov 2015	#8
I think they can, except they might have a legitmate reason for fearing	Hoyt	Nov 2015	#10
Of course.	Shandris	Nov 2015	#11
best entry so far	w0nderer	Nov 2015	#12
A basic characterstic of racism	TlalocW	Nov 2015	#13
i may be misunderstanding you	w0nderer	Nov 2015	#14
Blacks can't handle college	TlalocW	Nov 2015	#22
When that person is part of the power structure. For example,	pnwmom	Nov 2015	#15
if i'm not mistaken in japan there are people racist against white people too?	w0nderer	Nov 2015	#16
Yes, against anyone who isn't "pure" Japanese.	pnwmom	Nov 2015	#18
That is institutional racism	AgingAmerican	Nov 2015	#73
Yes a non white person can be racist.	Autumn	Nov 2015	#17
WP study: most racist countries today: (1-2) India, Jordan (3-5) Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran	Yorktown	Nov 2015	#19
Thank you for posting this	davidpdx	Nov 2015	#33
What are AA's?	Yorktown	Nov 2015	#36
I assume they meant African Americans????	Travis_0004	Nov 2015	#38
I doubt it in context	Yorktown	Nov 2015	#41
A majority would likely be Americans	jberryhill	Nov 2015	#129
I should have written that out, African Americans	davidpdx	Nov 2015	#43
True, Japanese/Western couples tend not to stay in Japan.	Yorktown	Nov 2015	#51
I think the only reason I say they are treated slightly worse than Caucasians	davidpdx	Nov 2015	#54
Are you an African American?	Yorktown	Nov 2015	#56
No I'm not	davidpdx	Nov 2015	#59
That is interesting - thank you. nt	SusanCalvin	Nov 2015	#40
Very interesting thanks for posting this (nt)	jack_krass	Nov 2015	#64
I'm amazed the Dominican Republican isn't on that list	AgingAmerican	Nov 2015	#74
The Sudanese would be in good racist standing too	Yorktown	Nov 2015	#84
Racism cannot be imposed by individuals	loyalsister	Nov 2015	#20
I think you're describing systemic racism, not regular racism n/t	ram2008	Nov 2015	#32
"regular racism"?	loyalsister	Nov 2015	#34
Regular racism is the standard most people think about	ram2008	Nov 2015	#35
Pretending that there has been no scholarly advancement doesn't erase it	loyalsister	Nov 2015	#42
It's not a personal definition, it is the definition	ram2008	Nov 2015	#46
If you asked people on the street	loyalsister	Nov 2015	#55
If we refuse to use language that is the societal standard, then communication breakdowns	ram2008	Nov 2015	#57
You just made a whole lot of good sense	GummyBearz	Nov 2015	#71
Have you ever read laws or bills before they are passed?	loyalsister	Nov 2015	#109
The agreed upon language is the one in the dictionary	ram2008	Nov 2015	#110
Trying to twist slang usage into meaningful language	loyalsister	Nov 2015	#111
You can't be serious	ram2008	Nov 2015	#112
As I said before I don't view individuals as racist	loyalsister	Nov 2015	#113
This thread is about individuals	ram2008	Nov 2015	#114
The question was can a nonwhite person be racist	loyalsister	Nov 2015	#116
You just said individuals cannot be racist	ram2008	Nov 2015	#117
You might not the vast majority people do	SpartanDem	Nov 2015	#119
Just like the vast majority of white people	loyalsister	Nov 2015	#124
Imposed, no. Practiced, yes.	AgingAmerican	Nov 2015	#77
I was trying to figure out how to explain this clearly and gave up.	Warren Stupidity	Nov 2015	#100
Holwever, in the vernacular 'racist' to describe a person is a synonym of 'bigot'	Gormy Cuss	Nov 2015	#107
The academics describe racism in three flavors 1) institutional 2) personally-mediated 3) internal	lumberjack_jeff	Nov 2015	#143
Depends on how you're using the term, and your 'academic DNA'.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Nov 2015	#21
It depends on how you use the term. For me, of course, anyone can be a racist	uppityperson	Nov 2015	#23
Of course. But it's more damaging and serious from the dominant race	AZ Progressive	Nov 2015	#24
Can a race of people discriminate against a different race of people?	Rex	Nov 2015	#26
Racist against Whites? No.	951-Riverside	Nov 2015	#27
Sure you can	AgingAmerican	Nov 2015	#78
The concept of race is anachronistic.	Bok_Tukalo	Nov 2015	#28
Bigoted, yes. Racist, no, not in the US at present	Warpy	Nov 2015	#29
It's absolutely possible for non-white people to be racist	ram2008	Nov 2015	#31
Racism, like all other "isms," is institutional in nature.	Warpy	Nov 2015	#49
When people describe racism, they are thinking of the dictionary definition.	ram2008	Nov 2015	#50
Some people are, not all.	kwassa	Nov 2015	#63
Dictionaries tend to 'dumb it down'.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Nov 2015	#88
Dumbing down would only make sense if racism started out as a different concept	ram2008	Nov 2015	#98
Except the current usage is NOT how the term originated.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Nov 2015	#105
Nihilism, pessimism, optimism... the suffix 'ism' doesn't denote an institutional status.	Marr	Nov 2015	#115
And all of those Blacks and Latinos are living in largely poor neighborhoods.	vaberella	Nov 2015	#58
Just because it happens disproportionately to minorities, doesn't mean minorities can't be partof it	ram2008	Nov 2015	#61
Privilege is not a one horse town. There's intersectionality of privilege across any existing	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Nov 2015	#89
By that standard. . . .	Travis_0004	Nov 2015	#39
Only in the CEO's office or home	Warpy	Nov 2015	#48
Like this guy says	randys1	Nov 2015	#104
Like this?	cabot	Nov 2015	#106
Yes	mythology	Nov 2015	#37
Of course they can, and demonstrably are..	Snow Leopard	Nov 2015	#44
Anyone can be racist as long as they are the DOMINANT race in a particular country!	vaberella	Nov 2015	#45
BS. Anyone can be a racist.	Katashi_itto	Nov 2015	#52
+1	darkangel218	Nov 2015	#79
it must be exhausting for you	TheSarcastinator	Nov 2015	#94
The system is racist. People are bigots.	Iggo	Nov 2015	#60
Of course they can	melman	Nov 2015	#62
Only the race in the position of power, in the position to oppress, can be racist. nt	valerief	Nov 2015	#65
so in africa only black can be racist, in asia only asians and in middle east...?n/t	w0nderer	Nov 2015	#66
I'll bet whites are running the IMF. nt	valerief	Nov 2015	#67
Horse manure	TheSarcastinator	Nov 2015	#93
Wrong. Goodbye.	valerief	Nov 2015	#101
Definitions are altered all the time. Language is dynamic, not static.	kwassa	Nov 2015	#135
you sound like a communist	ericson00	Nov 2015	#102
That academic definition hasn't made it very far into general use.	Lizzie Poppet	Nov 2015	#108
No. Anyone can be prejudiced,	6000eliot	Nov 2015	#68
So I a white person is unemployed what power does he have?	Travis_0004	Nov 2015	#97
Your mistake is thinking about this as an individual.	6000eliot	Nov 2015	#118
So is a KKK member just as racist as a normal white guy?	Travis_0004	Nov 2015	#138
Why would that be a question?	6000eliot	Nov 2015	#142
I would encourage you to look at the percentage of CEOs who are black	YoungDemCA	Nov 2015	#125
You still have inherent white privilege	philosslayer	Nov 2015	#137
Of course, anyone can	AgingAmerican	Nov 2015	#72
Anyone can be racist. nt	darkangel218	Nov 2015	#80
Depends on your definition of racism and your geographical location.	ZombieHorde	Nov 2015	#81
Depends on where that person lives.	Recursion	Nov 2015	#82
This OP now comes in graphic novel form	Scootaloo	Nov 2015	#83
I have seen this notion tossed around	Skidmore	Nov 2015	#87
What about majority minority cities?	MichMan	Nov 2015	#90
only racists believe non-white people cannot be racist	TheSarcastinator	Nov 2015	#91
Of course they can. nt.	polly7	Nov 2015	#92
During one of the past "what is racism?" discussions, I found an article that was useful to me	petronius	Nov 2015	#99
Yes and I have seen it on DU	Duckhunter935	Nov 2015	#103
Yep. nt	darkangel218	Nov 2015	#123
I've seen it too!	B Calm	Nov 2015	#144
Anyone need some butter?	Initech	Nov 2015	#120
First thing you need to understand is how do we apply racism in this country…	MrScorpio	Nov 2015	#121
Very well said.	YoungDemCA	Nov 2015	#122
That's ridiculous	TeddyR	Nov 2015	#128
Some resources here would seen instructive…	MrScorpio	Nov 2015	#131
Anyone who makes a decision about a person based on Race, is a racist .	orpupilofnature57	Nov 2015	#126
I don't believe in "races" of people...	Mike Nelson	Nov 2015	#127
Absolutely.	truebrit71	Nov 2015	#132
we ALL have biases	hopemountain	Nov 2015	#133
Any human can be. That would seem elementary.	WinkyDink	Nov 2015	#134
Oh, it's this thread again.	cemaphonic	Nov 2015	#136
I don't understand the point of your OP.	George II	Nov 2015	#139
Of course they can... absolutely	JCMach1	Nov 2015	#140
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Nov 2015	#141

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