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In reply to the discussion: Why did Turkey shoot down that Russian plane? [View all]tblue37
(65,269 posts)54. Remember Sibel Edmonds?
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She had accused a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving Turkish nationals, alleged serious security breaches and cover-ups and that intelligence had been deliberately suppressed, endangering national security.
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According to Edmonds, Gladio B identified, among other things, regular meetings between senior US intelligence and current leader of Al Qaeda Ayman al-Zawahiri at the U.S. embassy in Baku, Azerbaijan between 1997 and 2001, with al-Zawahiri and other mujahideen being transported by NATO aircraft to Central Asia and the Balkans to participate in Pentagon-backed destabilisation operations. She added that in 1997, NATO asked Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to release from prison Islamist militants affiliated to Ayman al-Zawahiri. They were flown by U.S. intelligence orders to Turkey for training and use in operations by the Pentagon. Additionally, she reported that an Al-Qaeda leader had been training some of the 9-11 hijackers at a base in Turkey. These and related allegations were seemingly confirmed by Sunday Times journalists in 2008 by speaking to Pentagon and MI6 sources. However, according to several sources, the journalists were prevented from publishing many of these allegations when the second half of their four part series was dropped possibly due to pressure from the U.S. State Department. She suggests that the objectives of Gladio B are "projecting U.S. power in the former Soviet sphere of influence to access previously untapped strategic energy and mineral reserves for U.S. and European companies; pushing back Russian and Chinese power; and expanding the scope of lucrative criminal activities, particularly illegal arms and drugs trafficking." Former FBI special agent Dennis Saccher states Edmonds's story "should have been front page news" because it is "a scandal bigger than Watergate.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds
She had accused a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving Turkish nationals, alleged serious security breaches and cover-ups and that intelligence had been deliberately suppressed, endangering national security.
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According to Edmonds, Gladio B identified, among other things, regular meetings between senior US intelligence and current leader of Al Qaeda Ayman al-Zawahiri at the U.S. embassy in Baku, Azerbaijan between 1997 and 2001, with al-Zawahiri and other mujahideen being transported by NATO aircraft to Central Asia and the Balkans to participate in Pentagon-backed destabilisation operations. She added that in 1997, NATO asked Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to release from prison Islamist militants affiliated to Ayman al-Zawahiri. They were flown by U.S. intelligence orders to Turkey for training and use in operations by the Pentagon. Additionally, she reported that an Al-Qaeda leader had been training some of the 9-11 hijackers at a base in Turkey. These and related allegations were seemingly confirmed by Sunday Times journalists in 2008 by speaking to Pentagon and MI6 sources. However, according to several sources, the journalists were prevented from publishing many of these allegations when the second half of their four part series was dropped possibly due to pressure from the U.S. State Department. She suggests that the objectives of Gladio B are "projecting U.S. power in the former Soviet sphere of influence to access previously untapped strategic energy and mineral reserves for U.S. and European companies; pushing back Russian and Chinese power; and expanding the scope of lucrative criminal activities, particularly illegal arms and drugs trafficking." Former FBI special agent Dennis Saccher states Edmonds's story "should have been front page news" because it is "a scandal bigger than Watergate.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds
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Here's what Clark said in full - strangely, SputnikNews left out the criticism of Assad and Putin
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2015
#14
this one's a knee-slapper: strangely, SputnikNews left out the criticism of Assad and Putin
Raster
Nov 2015
#43
Lavrov called it "a planned provocation," i.e., premeditated. Erdogan channeling
KingCharlemagne
Nov 2015
#59
My jaw hit the floor yesterday morning when I first learned of it. Turkey
KingCharlemagne
Nov 2015
#66
for some reason ad hominem attacks are often treated as a refutation of what was said here
GreatGazoo
Nov 2015
#24
Turkmen allies who machine gun pilots after they eject from their plane?
another_liberal
Nov 2015
#13
Your outrage would be more believable if you also included the civilians Russia is bombing.
jeff47
Nov 2015
#65
There is satellite evidence that the Russian planes did not enter Turkish territory . . .
another_liberal
Nov 2015
#17
Tell me about "satellite evidence" of this. Do you think there is actually real-time video recording
Lee-Lee
Nov 2015
#36
ACCIDENT. Now back to your regularity scheduled American mass media propaganda trying to
Fred Sanders
Nov 2015
#29
Agreed, although both are quite lethal (and capable) forces to be reckoned with.
ColesCountyDem
Nov 2015
#75
Oil wars not religious wars, once again. Never mind that oil has to replaced if we are to
Todays_Illusion
Nov 2015
#74
We spend a trillion dollars developing yet another high tech jet fighter . . .
another_liberal
Nov 2015
#80
If those Turkmen (the ethnic group) are in Syria and fighting against the government . . .
another_liberal
Nov 2015
#77