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15. typo - 'Turkish airspace', not 'Russian airspace' (nt)

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Why did Turkey shoot down that Russian plane? [View all] another_liberal Nov 2015 OP

Sputnik? Again? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #1

You use your sources . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #2

Here's what Clark said in full - strangely, SputnikNews left out the criticism of Assad and Putin muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #14

this one's a knee-slapper: strangely, SputnikNews left out the criticism of Assad and Putin Raster Nov 2015 #43

As unimpeachable sources go newblewtoo Nov 2015 #56

I've heard him referred to as "Weasely Clark." Stardust Nov 2015 #73

The views of the Russian government do seem relevant in this situation. nt bemildred Nov 2015 #27

If we could only be able to discern those views. marble falls Nov 2015 #47

Well, reading what they have to say can help. nt bemildred Nov 2015 #51

Lavrov called it "a planned provocation," i.e., premeditated. Erdogan channeling KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #59

Well, I think they had encouragement. bemildred Nov 2015 #61

There's something very wrong with that incident. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #3

Their dream of a revived Ottaman Empire is over . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #6

It's certainly the stupidest thing I've seen a nation do Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #9

My jaw hit the floor yesterday morning when I first learned of it. Turkey KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #66

Do I believe that NATO is trying to suppress a Double Game by Turkey? Arneoker Nov 2015 #4

Propoganda Kilgore Nov 2015 #5

Is General Clark a branch of the Russian government too? another_liberal Nov 2015 #7

Most news networks are probably crap and biased Kilgore Nov 2015 #8

for some reason ad hominem attacks are often treated as a refutation of what was said here GreatGazoo Nov 2015 #24

heres the link to CNN Aria36 Nov 2015 #16

Looks like Sputnik took advantage of a convenient news piece Kilgore Nov 2015 #25

Well, Clark would know IMO Aria36 Nov 2015 #62

What's an unbiased news source? MattSh Nov 2015 #28

Wish I had an answer Kilgore Nov 2015 #31

The Turks have long been touchy about their borders. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #10

LOL. Going back to at least, oh, 1914! :) - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #60

Russia was bombing Turkey's turkmen allies in Syria. DetlefK Nov 2015 #11

Turkmen allies who machine gun pilots after they eject from their plane? another_liberal Nov 2015 #13

so they chose a more moderate method than ISIS Aria36 Nov 2015 #20

Well, unlike Russia's syrian ally they aren't barrel-bombing civilian areas. DetlefK Nov 2015 #21

lf they got the power Aria36 Nov 2015 #23

These actions aren't even remotely comparable. DetlefK Nov 2015 #32

Exactly Aria36 Nov 2015 #57

Your outrage would be more believable if you also included the civilians Russia is bombing. jeff47 Nov 2015 #65

The plane DID go into Turkish airspace, however briefly. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #12

typo - 'Turkish airspace', not 'Russian airspace' (nt) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #15

Thanks. Fixed it. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #18

There is satellite evidence that the Russian planes did not enter Turkish territory . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #17

I trust Obama over Putin. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #19

President Obama has some very bad advisors . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #39

Amazing how many fans Putin has on DU. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #44

Amazing how you never actually have an argument to make. FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #48

Project much? SunSeeker Nov 2015 #53

Yup... every opinion different than yours is merely spin and propaganda LanternWaste Nov 2015 #34

Some opinions which I differ with are indeed that . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #38

Can't put it any better than this. randome Nov 2015 #41

Tell me about "satellite evidence" of this. Do you think there is actually real-time video recording Lee-Lee Nov 2015 #36

Actually it may be ground radar "evidence" . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #37

Sputnik news comes from the Kremlin. jeff47 Nov 2015 #67

Actually it may be unmitigated bullshit Codeine Nov 2015 #69

Here's my CT: Oneironaut Nov 2015 #22

I agree . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #40

Kick them out of NATO??? FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #50

Jive Turkey Facility Inspector Nov 2015 #26

ACCIDENT. Now back to your regularity scheduled American mass media propaganda trying to Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #29

we are already at war Fast Walker 52 Nov 2015 #42

Comrade Putin will not be knocked down- HE WILL RISE TO THE OCCASION! snooper2 Nov 2015 #58

Because it looked like Putin's private jet?... SidDithers Nov 2015 #30

Nah, they thought Ed Snowden was making a break for it! randome Nov 2015 #46

Ha! Codeine Nov 2015 #70

Because they could BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author mountain grammy Nov 2015 #35

As I've said before, Ergodan is clinically insane Demeter Nov 2015 #45

Yes, if we arew to judge by this insane attack . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #83

This Seymour Hersh article from last year is making the rounds again starroute Nov 2015 #49

incorrect link? FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #52

Remember Sibel Edmonds? tblue37 Nov 2015 #54

Fascinating stuff! another_liberal Nov 2015 #82

The simple explanation is the best one. cheapdate Nov 2015 #55

It's not like the Russians have ever stolen a chunk of land from someone, is it? MADem Nov 2015 #63

The animosity between Russia and the Turks is centuries-old. ColesCountyDem Nov 2015 #64

Bottom-bottom line: Russia is a nuclear Great Power, while Turkey is KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #68

Agreed, although both are quite lethal (and capable) forces to be reckoned with. ColesCountyDem Nov 2015 #75

The enemy of my enemy Mendocino Nov 2015 #71

I intend to quote that . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #81

to avoid being Thanksgiving dinner n/t wilt the stilt Nov 2015 #72

Didn't work . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #84

Oil wars not religious wars, once again. Never mind that oil has to replaced if we are to Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #74

We spend a trillion dollars developing yet another high tech jet fighter . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #80

Well turkey has claimed Russia has killed turks gwheezie Nov 2015 #76

If those Turkmen (the ethnic group) are in Syria and fighting against the government . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #77

A desperate bid to get Thanksgiving canceled? KamaAina Nov 2015 #78

It particularly galls the Turks . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #79