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Kilgore

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5. Propoganda

Reply to another_liberal (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2015, 08:05 AM

Nov 2015

Sputnik News is an arm of the Russian government and it replaced Voice of Russia.

Think of it this way, would you consider Voice of America as an unbiased news source?

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Why did Turkey shoot down that Russian plane? [View all] another_liberal Nov 2015 OP

Sputnik? Again? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #1

You use your sources . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #2

Here's what Clark said in full - strangely, SputnikNews left out the criticism of Assad and Putin muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #14

this one's a knee-slapper: strangely, SputnikNews left out the criticism of Assad and Putin Raster Nov 2015 #43

As unimpeachable sources go newblewtoo Nov 2015 #56

I've heard him referred to as "Weasely Clark." Stardust Nov 2015 #73

The views of the Russian government do seem relevant in this situation. nt bemildred Nov 2015 #27

If we could only be able to discern those views. marble falls Nov 2015 #47

Well, reading what they have to say can help. nt bemildred Nov 2015 #51

Lavrov called it "a planned provocation," i.e., premeditated. Erdogan channeling KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #59

Well, I think they had encouragement. bemildred Nov 2015 #61

There's something very wrong with that incident. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #3

Their dream of a revived Ottaman Empire is over . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #6

It's certainly the stupidest thing I've seen a nation do Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #9

My jaw hit the floor yesterday morning when I first learned of it. Turkey KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #66

Do I believe that NATO is trying to suppress a Double Game by Turkey? Arneoker Nov 2015 #4

Propoganda Kilgore Nov 2015 #5

Is General Clark a branch of the Russian government too? another_liberal Nov 2015 #7

Most news networks are probably crap and biased Kilgore Nov 2015 #8

for some reason ad hominem attacks are often treated as a refutation of what was said here GreatGazoo Nov 2015 #24

heres the link to CNN Aria36 Nov 2015 #16

Looks like Sputnik took advantage of a convenient news piece Kilgore Nov 2015 #25

Well, Clark would know IMO Aria36 Nov 2015 #62

What's an unbiased news source? MattSh Nov 2015 #28

Wish I had an answer Kilgore Nov 2015 #31

The Turks have long been touchy about their borders. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #10

LOL. Going back to at least, oh, 1914! :) - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #60

Russia was bombing Turkey's turkmen allies in Syria. DetlefK Nov 2015 #11

Turkmen allies who machine gun pilots after they eject from their plane? another_liberal Nov 2015 #13

so they chose a more moderate method than ISIS Aria36 Nov 2015 #20

Well, unlike Russia's syrian ally they aren't barrel-bombing civilian areas. DetlefK Nov 2015 #21

lf they got the power Aria36 Nov 2015 #23

These actions aren't even remotely comparable. DetlefK Nov 2015 #32

Exactly Aria36 Nov 2015 #57

Your outrage would be more believable if you also included the civilians Russia is bombing. jeff47 Nov 2015 #65

The plane DID go into Turkish airspace, however briefly. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #12

typo - 'Turkish airspace', not 'Russian airspace' (nt) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2015 #15

Thanks. Fixed it. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #18

There is satellite evidence that the Russian planes did not enter Turkish territory . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #17

I trust Obama over Putin. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #19

President Obama has some very bad advisors . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #39

Amazing how many fans Putin has on DU. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #44

Amazing how you never actually have an argument to make. FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #48

Project much? SunSeeker Nov 2015 #53

Yup... every opinion different than yours is merely spin and propaganda LanternWaste Nov 2015 #34

Some opinions which I differ with are indeed that . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #38

Can't put it any better than this. randome Nov 2015 #41

Tell me about "satellite evidence" of this. Do you think there is actually real-time video recording Lee-Lee Nov 2015 #36

Actually it may be ground radar "evidence" . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #37

Sputnik news comes from the Kremlin. jeff47 Nov 2015 #67

Actually it may be unmitigated bullshit Codeine Nov 2015 #69

Here's my CT: Oneironaut Nov 2015 #22

I agree . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #40

Kick them out of NATO??? FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #50

Jive Turkey Facility Inspector Nov 2015 #26

ACCIDENT. Now back to your regularity scheduled American mass media propaganda trying to Fred Sanders Nov 2015 #29

we are already at war Fast Walker 52 Nov 2015 #42

Comrade Putin will not be knocked down- HE WILL RISE TO THE OCCASION! snooper2 Nov 2015 #58

Because it looked like Putin's private jet?... SidDithers Nov 2015 #30

Nah, they thought Ed Snowden was making a break for it! randome Nov 2015 #46

Ha! Codeine Nov 2015 #70

Because they could BeyondGeography Nov 2015 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author mountain grammy Nov 2015 #35

As I've said before, Ergodan is clinically insane Demeter Nov 2015 #45

Yes, if we arew to judge by this insane attack . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #83

This Seymour Hersh article from last year is making the rounds again starroute Nov 2015 #49

incorrect link? FlatBaroque Nov 2015 #52

Remember Sibel Edmonds? tblue37 Nov 2015 #54

Fascinating stuff! another_liberal Nov 2015 #82

The simple explanation is the best one. cheapdate Nov 2015 #55

It's not like the Russians have ever stolen a chunk of land from someone, is it? MADem Nov 2015 #63

The animosity between Russia and the Turks is centuries-old. ColesCountyDem Nov 2015 #64

Bottom-bottom line: Russia is a nuclear Great Power, while Turkey is KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #68

Agreed, although both are quite lethal (and capable) forces to be reckoned with. ColesCountyDem Nov 2015 #75

The enemy of my enemy Mendocino Nov 2015 #71

I intend to quote that . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #81

to avoid being Thanksgiving dinner n/t wilt the stilt Nov 2015 #72

Didn't work . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #84

Oil wars not religious wars, once again. Never mind that oil has to replaced if we are to Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #74

We spend a trillion dollars developing yet another high tech jet fighter . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #80

Well turkey has claimed Russia has killed turks gwheezie Nov 2015 #76

If those Turkmen (the ethnic group) are in Syria and fighting against the government . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #77

A desperate bid to get Thanksgiving canceled? KamaAina Nov 2015 #78

It particularly galls the Turks . . . another_liberal Nov 2015 #79