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In reply to the discussion: Many Liberals Defend Islam the Way Conservatives Defend Guns [View all]cpwm17
(3,829 posts)140. Predominately the discussions centers around Muslims rather than Islam.
As an atheist, I have no love for Islam, or any other religion. I don't understand religious thinking or why religion should be admired.
But the discussions generally center around the behavior of Muslims. Muslims are people. All evidence indicates that they are not uniquely bad or more prone to violence. They tend to be rather conservative, which isn't my cop of tea, but beyond that, they are pretty much like most people in this world.
One major difference: Muslims are uniquely vilified:
http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/12/eye-opening-graphic-map-of-muslim-countries-that-the-u-s-and-israel-have-bombed/
This three-decade war for domination of the Middle East becomes apparent when we consider how many Muslim countries the peace-loving United States and her stalwart ally Israel have bombed:...
Under Barack Obama, the U.S. is currently bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and Libya. According to some reports (see here and here), we can add Iran to this ever-expanding list. [Update: An Informed Comment reader named Shannon pointed out that in fact the United States bombed Iran in 1988 during Operating Praying Mantis, an act that cannot be justified according to the International Court of Justice.]
Thanks to American arms and funding, our stalwart ally Israel has bombed every single one of its neighbors, including Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. Israel has also bombed Tunisia and Iraq (how many times can Americans and Israelis bomb this country?).
The total number of Muslim countries that America and Israel have bombed comes to fourteen: Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, Iran, Sudan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and Tunisia.
Under Barack Obama, the U.S. is currently bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and Libya. According to some reports (see here and here), we can add Iran to this ever-expanding list. [Update: An Informed Comment reader named Shannon pointed out that in fact the United States bombed Iran in 1988 during Operating Praying Mantis, an act that cannot be justified according to the International Court of Justice.]
Thanks to American arms and funding, our stalwart ally Israel has bombed every single one of its neighbors, including Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. Israel has also bombed Tunisia and Iraq (how many times can Americans and Israelis bomb this country?).
The total number of Muslim countries that America and Israel have bombed comes to fourteen: Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, Iran, Sudan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, and Tunisia.
There have been throughout my entire life efforts to dehumanize Muslims in the US. It has been very successful. The US treats them like cannon fodder. Various pro-war interests like the results.
It's strange that many people that support US aggressive wars or politicians that support aggressive wars complain that Muslims are particularly violent. Self awareness is a virtue, American exceptionalism is not.
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I know christians who are a hell of a lot more progressive than some of the people on DU.
CBGLuthier
Nov 2015
#4
They were promoting Communism, a secular dogma which happened to be anti-theist
Yorktown
Nov 2015
#153
The discussion centers about Islam?? Xian fundies are regularly pilloried here
Yorktown
Nov 2015
#142
Because every single Muslim is a saud. They all are the same. Yeah, bullshit.
CBGLuthier
Nov 2015
#2
You can't argue with the fact that a LOT of Xtian sects are super misogynistic and repressive.
Arugula Latte
Nov 2015
#134
I suspect part of it is due to innocent people in the US being subjects of hate crimes.
herding cats
Nov 2015
#18
I agree-- we progreessives have become accustomed to defend groups that are discriminated against...
TreasonousBastard
Nov 2015
#32
Congratulations on missing the point. I can see it was a herculean effort on your point.
Scootaloo
Nov 2015
#46
I agree to defend people, Muslim or not, unjustly attacked for whatever reason
Yorktown
Nov 2015
#53
How many examples do you want of this supposedly nonerxistent criticism of non-Xians?
whatthehey
Nov 2015
#120
enough is enough. Your point was made the first time. There is no rule that says someone has to
still_one
Nov 2015
#167
Ten days after bragging about all those "examples" you had and you have NOTHING, LOL?
whathehell
Nov 2015
#172
Did it ever occur to you that's because the religious people doing most of the damage in
Arugula Latte
Nov 2015
#136
The culture of any conservative strain of religion is incompatible with progressivism.
Arkana
Nov 2015
#91
Nope. But it gets the most attention here because it does the most damage here.
Arugula Latte
Nov 2015
#132