I wonder, though, (Reply #130) - Democratic Underground

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Response to bemildred (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 13, 2015, 11:43 PM

delrem (9,688 posts)

130. I wonder, though,

why it is that bin Laden, a former CIA asset in the US proxy war against the USSR in Afghanistan, turned coat and attacked the USA?
What could be gained by it?

Looking at this war 15 years into it presents a different perspective than immediately after 9/11/01.

I say that a person can't understand it without coming to an understanding of who profited from it.
So one looks at who are the investment bankers and war profiteers.
War profiteers need investment bankers, investment banking isn't the proximate cause, war profiteering is.

Once one understands it, one understands that the cause is so fundamentally amoral that it doesn't distinguish war in the line of defense from war of choice, of aggression, for private profit.

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149 replies	Author	Time	Post
NEW DETAILS: "CIA repeatedly and urgently began to warn the White House that an attack was coming" [View all]	Hissyspit	Nov 2015	OP
I predict that we will regret forgoing an investigation on the Bush Administration.	Baitball Blogger	Nov 2015	#1
Their going after Clinton was a COVER for bin Laden!	MH1	Nov 2015	#16
The investigation would be helpful, if for no other reason than to	Baitball Blogger	Nov 2015	#20
George Bush 2nd opened up a true Pandora's box	Gloria	Nov 2015	#127
+1,000	malaise	Nov 2015	#45
Great point. What we dont know about The Bush cabal, 911, and so on, would floor us all.	randys1	Nov 2015	#78
the various parties involved do not want an investigation...	Javaman	Nov 2015	#65
our entire system of government would collapse under the weight of a real investigation.	AlbertCat	Nov 2015	#121
I should rephrase that...	Javaman	Nov 2015	#147
I would hope what would collapse would be the entire system of corruption	mountain grammy	Nov 2015	#146
You are right. I rephrased my point up thread in a follow up reply. nt	Javaman	Nov 2015	#148
I've been regretting it since it came into existence!	JustADumbFireman	Nov 2015	#67
I don't think this is news to many of us ...	ananda	Nov 2015	#2
true here	heaven05	Nov 2015	#31
we tried	mehrrh	Nov 2015	#91
We certainly did!	Duval	Nov 2015	#95
As always, they leave out more we already know than the new tidbits they let us have	leveymg	Nov 2015	#101
Holy **it. I didn't know any of that.	polly7	Nov 2015	#109
NP. According to some here it was all Clinton's fault.	Rex	Nov 2015	#3
According to some here....	AlbertCat	Nov 2015	#122
You mean you don't know?	Rex	Nov 2015	#135
What are you blabbering about. No one has said that. It's called a STRAWMAN.	rhett o rick	Nov 2015	#129
What the fuck would you know about the conversations I've had on here with other posters?	Rex	Nov 2015	#134
Weak try at deflection. You said, "Some here really like to defend republican regimes."	rhett o rick	Nov 2015	#145
LIHOP. nt	bemildred	Nov 2015	#4
sure seems that way	tk2kewl	Nov 2015	#6
Provoke the terrists, ignore the warnings, and wait for it to happen.	bemildred	Nov 2015	#7
MIHOP.	SammyWinstonJack	Nov 2015	#42
+1	Alkene	Nov 2015	#133
I wonder, though,	delrem	Nov 2015	#130
Things tend to get confusing when you speculate about motivations too much.	bemildred	Nov 2015	#138
Very well said delrem	monicaangela	Nov 2015	#143
I have known that for over a decade.	Hissyspit	Nov 2015	#10
+1.	bemildred	Nov 2015	#14
Just look at who benefited the most from 9/11.	christx30	Nov 2015	#24
I just look at our history.	bemildred	Nov 2015	#33
Do you think ours is the only government or group that does this?	whathehell	Nov 2015	#136
Hardly.	bemildred	Nov 2015	#139
when the gov't wants a war....	tomp	Nov 2015	#140
This	get the red out	Nov 2015	#79
Huge +1! Old trick! They used to do it to Native Americans.	Enthusiast	Nov 2015	#55
+1.	bemildred	Nov 2015	#64
yeah... used be we were sent to the dungeon for suggesting it	tk2kewl	Nov 2015	#17
now no one seems to care...	Fast Walker 52	Nov 2015	#52
ancient history	tk2kewl	Nov 2015	#54
sadly true-- though still relevant to even the Paris attacks yesterday	Fast Walker 52	Nov 2015	#142
Yup. nt	City Lights	Nov 2015	#11
LIHOP?	MynameisBlarney	Nov 2015	#21
Let It Happen on Purpose	PADemD	Nov 2015	#23
Let It Happen On Purpose. Most logical explanation	JEB	Nov 2015	#25
another theory is MIHOP	rurallib	Nov 2015	#30
not a big leap from LIHOP considering all the players	tk2kewl	Nov 2015	#35
especially considering the expected payoff that an almost	rurallib	Nov 2015	#40
we need someone in the White House willing to bring these people to account	tk2kewl	Nov 2015	#46
it was LIHOP at minimum and if they knew it was coming, it would be dumb for them not to steer it in	Fast Walker 52	Nov 2015	#48
Yes that's what it looks like to me	LiberalLovinLug	Nov 2015	#103
I think it's kind of cute that you had to ask	maxsolomon	Nov 2015	#62
Agreed	snort	Nov 2015	#43
word	G_j	Nov 2015	#56
it's been 14 years already: they can outright admit it and it'd just make a little ripple	MisterP	Nov 2015	#111
+1	joshcryer	Nov 2015	#120
can we get the 28 pages already?	tk2kewl	Nov 2015	#5
Along with the dozens of other known omissions in the public version of the Commission Report.	leveymg	Nov 2015	#63
When Bush was being warned, he was, in essence, being updated on what the	valerief	Nov 2015	#8
Not long after 9/11 I mentioned PNAC and specifically that line	LibDemAlways	Nov 2015	#27
We're their pawns, for certain. I remember being in the office at work	valerief	Nov 2015	#32
OMG, I honestly had the same reaction... Said what is Bush up to? (in my head).	glowing	Nov 2015	#141
Huge +1!	Enthusiast	Nov 2015	#61
Looks like someone needs to testify before a Grand Jury under oath PDQ.	Octafish	Nov 2015	#9
Tenet has a lot of skeletons in his closet	Fast Walker 52	Nov 2015	#49
I doubt any witness would live long enough to testify before that grand jury!	LongTomH	Nov 2015	#72
Interesting how erstwhile Dungeon material keeps showing up in GD these days	Fumesucker	Nov 2015	#12
Drip, drip2, drip3, ... drip52, ... drip(#?). I lost count after 52nd revealed warning before 911.	Festivito	Nov 2015	#13
MIHOP and probably worse	nolabels	Nov 2015	#26
And what about the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7, which wasn't even hit?	colorado_ufo	Nov 2015	#60
Total free fall for ~5 seconds	nationalize the fed	Nov 2015	#77
Once again, am I the ONLY person in the entire world who was watching TV when they ANNOUNCED...	ieoeja	Nov 2015	#99
NIST was asked to explain the collapse of WTC 7.	Jeroen	Nov 2015	#102
This message was self-deleted by its author	Jeroen	Nov 2015	#106
Look down a couple posts to post #99. n/t	ieoeja	Nov 2015	#100
Connie Rice the European Cold War so-called expert thought it was smoke from the Clinton...	Historic NY	Nov 2015	#15
k and r	bbgrunt	Nov 2015	#18
But W "kept us safe."	spinbaby	Nov 2015	#19
actually, they were so drunk with power that they misspoke. What he really meant was	ChairmanAgnostic	Nov 2015	#22
Beat me to it, almost word-for-word, spinbaby.	bulloney	Nov 2015	#34
W Bush, "he kept us safe"	Botany	Nov 2015	#28
"my brother kept us safe"	napkinz	Nov 2015	#37
Even if you dismiss LIHOP and MIHOP, what remains is invading Iraq even though you have	randys1	Nov 2015	#80
And our invasion of Iraq produced ISIS	Botany	Nov 2015	#94
"he kept us safe" ... part 2	napkinz	Nov 2015	#115
Bushco was "tired of swatting at flies".	CJCRANE	Nov 2015	#29
W did not keep the US safe	Gothmog	Nov 2015	#36
he kept ME safe!	napkinz	Nov 2015	#39
Props to your pictures, napkinz.	pacalo	Nov 2015	#119
"Any impeachment of President Bush is OFF THE TABLE" FUCK YOU PELOSI! ANd I VOTED FOR YOU!	vkkv	Nov 2015	#38
She had no choice since it wasn't possible to get Republicans to go along with it.	randome	Nov 2015	#41
It's impossible to say that. Pelosi just let it the whole thing go... UNFORGIVABLE	vkkv	Nov 2015	#149
Don't forget Obama saying that we need to look forward	SammyWinstonJack	Nov 2015	#47
He probably just wanted to complete at least one term	get the red out	Nov 2015	#84
Bingo! nt	Kahuna	Nov 2015	#116
If only the MIHOP perpetrators of 9/11 were still alive. Oh. Wait.	Karmadillo	Nov 2015	#44
how awesome would it be to get a real investigaiton into 9/11 and a real trial of the perpetraitors?	Fast Walker 52	Nov 2015	#51
We should ask both Bernie and Hillary if they support investigating the Bush administration	Android3.14	Nov 2015	#50
He kept us safe.	HassleCat	Nov 2015	#53
I smell Darth Cheney in all of this. N/t	roamer65	Nov 2015	#57
I was wondering why, after so many years, Bush Sr. was suddenly rushing to defend his son,	colorado_ufo	Nov 2015	#58
Good get there, excellent question. nt	bemildred	Nov 2015	#66
I don't think that anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it	avaistheone1	Nov 2015	#59
Condi Liar Rice	napkinz	Nov 2015	#75
Secretary of Big Oil	Octafish	Nov 2015	#85
"it's past time to be polite. Justice awaits" ...	napkinz	Nov 2015	#93
She admitted they were warned about highjackings - but she thought	Laura PourMeADrink	Nov 2015	#98
Kicked and recommended to the Max!	Enthusiast	Nov 2015	#68
does this surprise anyone here?	niyad	Nov 2015	#69
That this happened or that the details were covered up for so long?	Hissyspit	Nov 2015	#71
either, both.	niyad	Nov 2015	#73
Funny how Condo RICE's "I thought we were doing what needed to be done" ain't so important as Bengha	UTUSN	Nov 2015	#70
Funny how both sides of Congress go along with it.	Octafish	Nov 2015	#74
Cheney says ...	napkinz	Nov 2015	#86
Really?????	get the red out	Nov 2015	#76
THIS is WHY	benld74	Nov 2015	#81
I see they continue to spin control the failure.	Rafale	Nov 2015	#82
Not remotely surprised that these Cold War idiots didn't want to hear it.	blackspade	Nov 2015	#83
Bill Maher and Chris Matthews Tear Into Jeb: "How Can He Get Away with Saying Dubya Kept Us Safe?!"	napkinz	Nov 2015	#87
I've never had any doubt that the Bush cabal knew what was in the works. That	WestSeattle2	Nov 2015	#88
I never doubted it either.	Duval	Nov 2015	#96
We'll never forget, alright	Holly_Hobby	Nov 2015	#89
9/11	mehrrh	Nov 2015	#90
At the very minimum bush let it happen	patsimp	Nov 2015	#92
Too little too late, imo. nt	Catherine Vincent	Nov 2015	#97
K&R...	spanone	Nov 2015	#104
Bush should have been held to account for his negligence in public hearings.	pa28	Nov 2015	#105
Gee...usually people don't want a paper trail if they have something to hide.	Rex	Nov 2015	#107
Wasn't that the theme of the book Richard Clarke's "Against All Enemies?"	HereSince1628	Nov 2015	#108
Clarke must be shaking his head. 'I've been saying this for years!'	FailureToCommunicate	Nov 2015	#137
So there wouldn't be a paper trail. LIHOP	riderinthestorm	Nov 2015	#110
What burns me is Black saying "used to terrorists being Euro-lefties"	snagglepuss	Nov 2015	#113
Yup its not like the World Trade towers hadn't been hit before	riderinthestorm	Nov 2015	#114
"All right, you've covered your ass, now."	tanyev	Nov 2015	#112
hmmm ggee whiz willikers	mnmoderatedem	Nov 2015	#117
Well sourced	dpatbrown	Nov 2015	#118
The Bush junta are true war criminals.	prouddemfromaustin44	Nov 2015	#123
Yeah Jeb, it sure sounds like "he kept us safe"?	SmittynMo	Nov 2015	#124
The CIA has its own agenda.	milestogo	Nov 2015	#125
Inside Job	billhicks76	Nov 2015	#126
Feeling for Paris right now. But I'm coming back for this topic.	KeepItReal	Nov 2015	#128
DUers documented all of the things that went on, and WERE initially reported,	loudsue	Nov 2015	#131
This doesn't square with my belief that the bushies had a hand in the attacks	Maraya1969	Nov 2015	#132
Bushies: "We know, we know, shut up! you'll spoil the surprise!"	librechik	Nov 2015	#144

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