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Lizzie Poppet

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85. And in how many of those cases were the cops unjustified in using force?

Reply to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 30, 2015, 04:25 PM

Aug 2015

Far more of them than there should be? Sure...the #blm movement exists for a damn good reason.

But I have no doubt a good many were cops protecting themselves from violent assault. I want cops to be far less quick on the trigger around black people, but there will always be cases in which the police have to use force. The nature of their job puts them in close contact with some of the worst, most violent elements of society.

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Sheriff's deputy killed in shooting at gas station [View all] dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 OP

That's horrible. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #1

... shenmue Aug 2015 #2

So far this year......... Historic NY Aug 2015 #3

thank you for the link Supersedeas Aug 2015 #28

Yep, this was an out and out assassination. GGJohn Aug 2015 #4

They arrested someone around 2:30 am, blastic testing of the gun found in the home matched. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #78

I wonder if the shooter knew him? That's a lot, up close, like it was personal or the person jtuck004 Aug 2015 #5

The deputy was shot in the back of the head first. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #79

It doesn't sound like a random shooting. brer cat Aug 2015 #6

That's fucked up Beaverhausen Aug 2015 #7

That does not sound like a random shooting. romanic Aug 2015 #8

Take the number of cops killed awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #9

There have been 80+ cops killed so far this year. Ace Rothstein Aug 2015 #25

this is the mentality that Minister Farrakan highlights Supersedeas Aug 2015 #29

As of July 1, there had been 155 black men killed by the cops XemaSab Aug 2015 #30

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #43

What is your point? Joe the Revelator Aug 2015 #48

And in how many of those cases were the cops unjustified in using force? Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #85

Oh well Dwayne Hicks Aug 2015 #10

For most people sarisataka Aug 2015 #11

I get that Dwayne Hicks Aug 2015 #12

So the outcries of Sandra Bland, Travyon Martin, Michael Brown, Eric Garner romanic Aug 2015 #14

Bet without googling it you have no idea how many people are killed by cops a year. You... Logical Aug 2015 #15

Fatal Encounters V0ltairesGh0st Aug 2015 #17

Their murderers walked. alphafemale Aug 2015 #19

Good Lulu Belle Aug 2015 #21

They will be prosecuted for this murder. alphafemale Aug 2015 #26

No argument here Lulu Belle Aug 2015 #41

Same reason we would make a "huge deal" Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #22

Silly logic, "lets tolerate bad cops because no one else will do it", when is.... Logical Aug 2015 #27

Huh? I said we should tolerate bad cops?? Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #31

You appear to arguing against a premise no one has actually made. LanternWaste Aug 2015 #120

An execution-style murder of a police officer is an attack against the state branford Aug 2015 #34

Well you are a breath of fresh air. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #38

It's not always one way or the other treestar Aug 2015 #65

Branford's post was a breath of fresh air after reading Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #66

Weird. I thought it was sarcastic for some reason. treestar Aug 2015 #73

Ummm... Rex Aug 2015 #71

Thank you for this insightful post! Lulu Belle Aug 2015 #42

That is a fairly disgusting attitude to take. Joe the Revelator Aug 2015 #46

We are "suppose to" react in whatever manner suits us best... LanternWaste Aug 2015 #119

It's terrible. I have no doubt everyone involved in the case will... Taitertots Aug 2015 #13

I can't help but wonder. V0ltairesGh0st Aug 2015 #16

Oh give me a break with this type of nonsense. Joe the Revelator Aug 2015 #45

glad i was wrong. V0ltairesGh0st Aug 2015 #64

It was nothing but pure silly speculation about a goofy conspiracy theory mythology Aug 2015 #107

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #60

They have someone in custody. DawgHouse Aug 2015 #18

That is not what channel 13 is reporting. ScreamingMeemie Aug 2015 #33

Well, this was hours ago but they were DawgHouse Aug 2015 #35

I wanted to post the clarification for anyone who ran across this... ScreamingMeemie Aug 2015 #36

Oh yeah, I understand. The news changes very quickly but they DawgHouse Aug 2015 #37

The silver alerts that they don't update make me so mad. ScreamingMeemie Aug 2015 #40

I would be willing to get more concerned about the death avebury Aug 2015 #20

On a personal level I abhor murder on any level. Glassunion Aug 2015 #23

You do know, of course, it is a logical fallacy dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #24

not assassinated DustyJoe Aug 2015 #32

Is there a legit source for this? Ace Rothstein Aug 2015 #39

I'm no fan of Breitbart, branford Aug 2015 #44

Breitbart is race-baiting with this story, like they have before with other stories. Archae Aug 2015 #52

A question. amee Sep 2015 #123

Enjoy your stay. Archae Sep 2015 #125

Google Harris County, Texas, sheriff's office, click on the news topic, dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #47

It wasn't the cop execution I was questioning. Ace Rothstein Aug 2015 #50

Definition of "assassinate" from Miriam Webster: dixiegrrrrl Aug 2015 #49

I thought that carrying a gun, open carrying at that, provides protection from assault? guillaumeb Aug 2015 #51

Certainly would not work in assassination Celebration Aug 2015 #53

Only if the one being robbed already had the weapon out and ready to use. eom guillaumeb Aug 2015 #54

Which as been debunked numerous times GGJohn Aug 2015 #69

Nice strawman. branford Aug 2015 #55

And 100 million weapons in the US in the hands of a civilian population guillaumeb Aug 2015 #56

Yep. AlinPA Aug 2015 #58

You've got to keep your eyes open at all times... ileus Aug 2015 #59

And how does this work if there are people BEHIND you? guillaumeb Aug 2015 #122

What a stupid statement. GGJohn Aug 2015 #67

a lot of the Gumper theories are baseless uponit7771 Aug 2015 #68

What's a Gumper? GGJohn Aug 2015 #70

A "clever" way to say "gun humper" without sounding quite as much like a fuckwit. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #81

Yeah, kinda figured that's what it meant GGJohn Aug 2015 #88

fuckwit = 20 kids dead and nothing changes in gumper attitudes or community uponit7771 Aug 2015 #90

C'mon, no half measures! Throw in some small penis jokes! Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #96

Yeap, cause names sure hurts gumpers feelings... uponit7771 Aug 2015 #110

For you to hurt my feelings, I'd have to respect your opinion. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #111

Yeap, gumpers are a little sensitive (Gumper - A person who views guns as a means worth more ... uponit7771 Aug 2015 #114

A lot happened in response to the attitudes and behavior of people like yourself after Newton. branford Aug 2015 #99

You're right, I started looking at a culture of "fuck them" among MOST gumpers (not people with.. uponit7771 Aug 2015 #109

Nah, towards people who think unfettered 2nd amendment is more important than people living safely uponit7771 Aug 2015 #89

Yes, OSHA keeps track of all job related injuries and fatalities. n/t cheapdate Aug 2015 #57

I am ashamed of some of the DUers on this thread Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #61

I'm with you. We are supposed to be Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #62

They live in a bubble of righteous indignation Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #74

Likewise. Sure, there are deep, serious, systemic problems with the police in this country. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #83

MTE romanic Sep 2015 #124

Rabid anti-cop rhetoric and those who spew and repeat it Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #63

No doubt the assassin listened to one cop apologist after another day in and out. Rex Aug 2015 #72

You don't see the irony in your own post here? Joe the Revelator Aug 2015 #75

. pecwae Aug 2015 #108

You also failed to mention #blm activists who have called for just this type of killing Joe the Revelator Aug 2015 #77

Wow... link and quote that one please... I'm not talking about somebody in a crowd either that could uponit7771 Aug 2015 #91

"this is as much cop apologists fault as anyone elses" Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #86

How sad of you. zappaman Aug 2015 #102

If everybody had a gun, no one would get shot B Calm Aug 2015 #76

Would you care to cite the sources where anyone actually offered such an absurd proposition? branford Aug 2015 #80

That particular straw man is old enough to buy booze. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #82

Pro-gunners have been spouting off for years that the solution to gun violence B Calm Aug 2015 #87

+1!! Hell, the head of the NRA has said something very close to this !! uponit7771 Aug 2015 #94

You quite explicitly alleged in your post that the gun rights community believes or proclaims that branford Aug 2015 #95

Yeah some of them are in this thread. Rex Aug 2015 #97

Really? GGJohn Aug 2015 #100

That's moving the goalposts. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #98

Open carry proponents ?!!? Regards uponit7771 Aug 2015 #93

Let's try this again... branford Aug 2015 #101

What's your solution to GUN violence? B Calm Aug 2015 #103

Its the same as the solution to ALL violence Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #104

So in other words you don't have a solution. B Calm Aug 2015 #112

It's a complex one- it's simple minded and foolish Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #113

Let's start with retracting that ridiculous quote, try some diplomacy, and move on. branford Aug 2015 #105

Thank you for a voice of reason nt Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #106

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2015 #92

I am disappointed some wants to pass this event and throw compassion aside when anyone is killed. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #84

I wonder if this deputy's death will be classified as a hate crime. Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #115

Why would you say that? B Calm Aug 2015 #116

Because the shooter who executed the deputy was African American and the deputy was caucasian. Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #117

Did the shooter say he murdered the police officer because he was white? B Calm Aug 2015 #118

I don't know, that's why I posed the question. Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #121

Let's get to the real problem, if killing of anyone can be justified to by saying others have been Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #126