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As a physicist, my two cents on the atomic bomb. [View all] redgreenandblue Aug 2015 OP

I've always thought Einstein had it right . . . Journeyman Aug 2015 #1

Stealing this quote for my Facebook status update. Hope that's OK and many KingCharlemagne Aug 2015 #73

You may be right, Sherman A1 Aug 2015 #2

Many of those on the Manhattan Project MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #31

A horrible thought, but I think you got that right. raccoon Aug 2015 #35

And that is really it in a nutshell... Whiskeytide Aug 2015 #44

In a sense though, the Germans and Russians had it right - I read up on something MillennialDem Aug 2015 #50

I think at that time if Japan had 'the bomb' they would have used it on us. Sunlei Aug 2015 #3

But they didn't Flying Squirrel Aug 2015 #11

agree & you're right, doesn't change the morality.But Pearl Harbor was attacked &they fought to win Sunlei Aug 2015 #22

Americans sometimes tortured captured Japanese soldiers Art_from_Ark Aug 2015 #65

They would have to deliver it in order to use it. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2015 #30

The Japanese launched submarine-borne balloons bearing firebombs against the Pacific NW Maedhros Aug 2015 #59

The problem is that we weren't the only ones working on the bomb. So were our enemies. pnwmom Aug 2015 #4

One of our allies was working on it also, Ilsa Aug 2015 #6

Who is that "us" you speak of? redgreenandblue Aug 2015 #17

What do you think about the argument that there have been no "great power" wars since 1945? Recursion Aug 2015 #5

I've made that argument for years Martin Eden Aug 2015 #15

I think that this is the result of a gamble. redgreenandblue Aug 2015 #16

I believe that is right. But to another point: it is my understanding that we developed CTyankee Aug 2015 #20

if you're willing to take credit for luck in Oct 1962, Sept & Nov 1983, & Jan 1995 HFRN Aug 2015 #28

I agree with that argument. hunter Aug 2015 #32

Yeah, that animation of every nuclear detonation since '45 was sobering Recursion Aug 2015 #34

The bomb didn't have to be used on Japan, twice. Unknown Beatle Aug 2015 #7

What do you base that on? Adrahil Aug 2015 #8

I don't really get how this is an argument by itself. There were many in the German high command MillennialDem Aug 2015 #53

One reason they were anxious to end the war, was the prevent Soviet expansion. Adrahil Aug 2015 #57

They were crazy enough to attack us. I wouldn't assume that they'd have backed down pnwmom Aug 2015 #10

If this theory was correct, why didn't they surrender after Hiroshima? jeff47 Aug 2015 #24

And only then because Hirohito hifiguy Aug 2015 #40

Apparently, those in charge of military at the time agree with you gratuitous Aug 2015 #37

So, you believe that if the Manhattan Project... Adrahil Aug 2015 #9

You say that as if anyone had a choice Android3.14 Aug 2015 #12

I think it was more a race to who could build it first. Live and Learn Aug 2015 #13

that's the conundrum - one's own not doing it, does not mean it doesn't get done HFRN Aug 2015 #27

Sorry, but when you say skepticscott Aug 2015 #14

Should isn't a word that matters when it comes to human invention The2ndWheel Aug 2015 #18

I think a bomb was inevitable Hydra Aug 2015 #19

The ironic thing is Shankapotomus Aug 2015 #21

You can say the same thing about any weapon or method of war Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #23

Physics does not care if you do not like it. jeff47 Aug 2015 #25

Basically, no HassleCat Aug 2015 #26

We oldest Boomers have grown up scarred by the bomb Warpy Aug 2015 #29

Ah yes, duck and cover... hunter Aug 2015 #33

I lived in DC during the worst of it Warpy Aug 2015 #48

Don't see these signs much anymore either Go Vols Aug 2015 #39

Yeah, I saw thosein every basement and subway station until the 70s Warpy Aug 2015 #47

The only one still around here I know of is on an old hospital Go Vols Aug 2015 #49

I think they'd taken them down in my old hospital Warpy Aug 2015 #56

Better us than them. Codeine Aug 2015 #36

Were there other countries working on a similar weapon? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #38

Have you read ANY of the history of that time? n/t MicaelS Aug 2015 #41

My question was purely rhetorical. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #43

Sorry, my mistake n/t MicaelS Aug 2015 #46

Yes, but Hitler was meth-head racist insane. And Japan simply didn't have the resources. hunter Aug 2015 #63

Hypocrisy on the part of some Physicists. MicaelS Aug 2015 #42

It would have been built, regardless. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2015 #45

You guys/gals fascinate the hell out of me, your intellect, the shit you think up. AllFieldsRequired Aug 2015 #51

Actually, they opened the gates of Hell and I don't know what it will take to close them again. Cleita Aug 2015 #52

But Germany also had an A bomb project Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #54

Since Germany was working on the same thing at the same time, there wasn't much choice still_one Aug 2015 #55

Thanks for posting One of the 99 Aug 2015 #60

Oppenheimer dogknob Aug 2015 #58

I agree, but the war made this into a horse race between us and Germany. Rex Aug 2015 #61

They had no clue, at least not until they were well along in the process. MADem Aug 2015 #62

Hard to say. hifiguy Aug 2015 #64

NPR had interviews this am quaker bill Aug 2015 #66

I too am a physicist jimlup Aug 2015 #67

Thanks for your perspective. redgreenandblue Aug 2015 #70

A quick search... jimlup Aug 2015 #74

history pretty much agrees... Takket Aug 2015 #68

It's not stamp collecting ThoughtCriminal Aug 2015 #69

If you are saying the bomb should have never been built, then by default you are saying davidpdx Aug 2015 #71

People need to think "should we make it" before asking "can we make it" Marrah_G Aug 2015 #72