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stevenleser

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229. Well, IMHO, if a source lies, they get burned. In practice, I would have to know for sure that they
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:28 PM
Jul 2015

lied. I would go to jail or take the heat otherwise.

I wonder if that is what happened here, that Pitt and/or Leopold think the source lied but aren't sure. Then you're fucked, because I wouldn't burn the source then either. But I would at least say, look, we had a source that we thought was iron-clad but that source turned out to be wrong.

You have to say something.

"24 business hours" [View all] JonLP24 Jul 2015 OP
Wait- I'm confused Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #1
I'm confused simply by the incoherency of the OP's first sentence! kentauros Jul 2015 #122
A poster that the Op hates wrote an article predicting Rove's indictment Marrah_G Jul 2015 #141
Any idea what brought this on? arcane1 Jul 2015 #144
I agree with your assessment. Marrah_G Jul 2015 #155
"Nasty, disgusting, stalkerish behavior" it certainly is . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #153
Is this why Pitt posted a farwell note? (nt) question everything Jul 2015 #166
yes- his was the final straw for him Marrah_G Jul 2015 #167
Thanks. Too bad. This is the problem with people who charge forward waving the flags question everything Jul 2015 #170
He didn't say that. He just said his 'cork had popped' muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #217
I think I'd better clear my cache. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2015 #2
Definitely! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #3
There are a few of us around who will pick up on this, but most will find this to be cryptic hlthe2b Jul 2015 #4
Huh? 11 Bravo Jul 2015 #5
Note below RobertEarl Jul 2015 #63
Yes, that's what's happening here pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #65
Does this relate back to 2006? Are you saying some 'leaks' are intended to make news sources Shrike47 Jul 2015 #6
Links to the story you're referencing and the 24 business hours remark would help pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #7
Here's the original story oberliner Jul 2015 #11
Thanks pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #12
Not sure why the poster brought up the topic oberliner Jul 2015 #14
I can't believe that I have been on this board so long that I knew just what Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #26
...to make us feel old? Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #29
Mission accomplished oberliner Jul 2015 #30
Ah but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #35
You like the Byrds version better than Dylan's original? oberliner Jul 2015 #37
Same here pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #39
I saw Dylan and McGuinn perform it together oberliner Jul 2015 #40
I saw that on TV pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #41
OMG, that is just awesome! passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #247
It's still goddamn funny, I don't care who that burns alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #27
Agreed oberliner Jul 2015 #31
I actually bet a bunch of DUers at the time that the story was bullshit alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #36
Just read through some of that oberliner Jul 2015 #38
. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #50
Very often have so many been so wrong about something so obvious alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #64
And we have a GBCW for posterity's sake. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #85
Fair enough, but what was done by the Bush admin was a crime. And believing Rove was involved, since stevenleser Jul 2015 #127
Rove was of course involved alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #131
the most ironic thing was that the leak to Novak was from one of the few sane geek tragedy Jul 2015 #142
You are very gracious my friend considering the vitriol directed at you msanthrope Jul 2015 #172
Vitriol? Are there posts I'm missing? stevenleser Jul 2015 #177
I was necalling threads closer to the time...... and I think some long-standing grudges developed msanthrope Jul 2015 #178
"Fitzmas"! CTyankee Jul 2015 #150
Yes, we were all waiting for Fitzmas. tavernier Jul 2015 #185
Alcibades mystery was an oasis of common sense in a desert of hysteria. nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #176
Ha! alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #180
"Dude that left will be back." And, with similar fanfare and self-promotion, I might add. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #216
What is the new TruthOut story? Is it worth talking about? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #13
See oberliner's posts pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #16
Not quite sure what you are aiming at, but it is pretty obvious what happened with "Fitzmas" tritsofme Jul 2015 #8
One of the most entertaining months on DU. egduj Jul 2015 #9
Yes, it was oberliner Jul 2015 #19
I won a bet, I know that... alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #28
It was my first month at DU treestar Jul 2015 #66
Thanks for my first smile on an otherwise sad thread. merrily Jul 2015 #67
William Pitt: "I just got off the phone with Jason Leopold..." oberliner Jul 2015 #10
DU rec... SidDithers Jul 2015 #15
It's HUGH! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #17
Merry Fitzmas! oberliner Jul 2015 #20
It's series!. nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #169
. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #18
That thread... SidDithers Jul 2015 #22
I'm all up in that thread alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #33
From the original announcement thread: geek tragedy Jul 2015 #44
. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #45
LOL greytdemocrat Jul 2015 #51
"Big egos and bigger mouths"... SidDithers Jul 2015 #61
Indeed. merrily Jul 2015 #70
Yeah, and not the last time, unfortunately. :( Cha Jul 2015 #193
Elvis and Keith Richards said it SO well... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #218
No, it's not. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #181
Yeah, it is...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #186
well said, well said grasswire Jul 2015 #189
And, boom, something flies out of the memory hole with a mighty sound. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #21
not everything that goes into the memory hole stays there … eom ;P littlewolf Jul 2015 #24
If you were expecting to make someone feel better, you just did the opposite, I would think. randome Jul 2015 #23
"KARL ROVE HAS BEEN INDICTED" Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #25
Good old William Pitt oberliner Jul 2015 #34
. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #42
Has truth out scrubbed the story from their site?... SidDithers Jul 2015 #47
. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #49
LOL... SidDithers Jul 2015 #52
You and Octafish both rec'd it! nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #53
My good friend octafish of DU knows comedy gold when he sees it...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #54
The piece de resistance: geek tragedy Jul 2015 #55
I had never seen that... SidDithers Jul 2015 #60
Wow! Spazito Jul 2015 #106
I'm not your friend. Octafish Jul 2015 #129
Yes, because I support seeing Rove, Cheney and the BFEE in prison. Octafish Jul 2015 #125
I had forgotten this whole thing. cwydro Jul 2015 #68
I believe this particular drunken rant was deleted. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #69
Oh darn. cwydro Jul 2015 #71
this rant, directed at Skinner, copied in this Dkos diary is pretty geek tragedy Jul 2015 #72
But no way to link to it? cwydro Jul 2015 #75
deleted for obviously reasons. but it made quite a few ripples at the time nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #76
Ah, so now I understand the GBCW post. cwydro Jul 2015 #77
he's GBCWing again? I guess it had been a few years since the last one geek tragedy Jul 2015 #80
See geek's post #55 upthread...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #78
Oh dear. cwydro Jul 2015 #82
And the rest of us, including you, have never been wrong about anything. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #117
^^^^^^^^ grasswire Jul 2015 #183
More like jackals or buzzards.... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #203
Plus a million, JD. Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 #213
If I remember correctly, Karl Rove refused to testify, refused to respond to subpeona. Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #79
it was a hoax. Rove was never indicted, and those who questioned the veracity geek tragedy Jul 2015 #91
So did you guys Ever get an apology? or just ".. haven't you ever made a mistake... blah blah.."? Cha Jul 2015 #195
Good times,good times. sufrommich Jul 2015 #32
I think the post quoted geek tragedy Jul 2015 #56
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #81
Your service and sacrifice will not be forgotten, brave internet flame warrior. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #83
You ought to make your living writing . . . Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #92
you're right, people who write stuff on the Internet should be above criticism nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #99
This is not just criticism. It is really ugly. Truly. There is a person Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #214
+1. merrily Jul 2015 #221
Word! MelissaB Jul 2015 #231
if people expect special treatment because they're semi-famous, they have to geek tragedy Jul 2015 #236
You are bringing up "special treatment" as some sort of defense. Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #237
ugly mob behavior? It's people yukking it up over perhaps the all-time geek tragedy Jul 2015 #238
You are being coy and I suspect you know it. Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #239
You would have to ask the OP--who generally tends towards the leftmost wing of this site's geek tragedy Jul 2015 #240
I am not talking about the op..I am commenting on the contents of the thread. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #241
there is much about the behavior in that episode that can be rightfully mocked. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #243
Well then enjoy yourself. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #244
The flame warrior has flamed out...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #233
and now his watch has ended. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #234
Previously banned alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #235
... Cal Carpenter Jul 2015 #43
Scooter and Judy and The Aspens Octafish Jul 2015 #46
And in other news... pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #48
Now would be a good time to check on Abe. Rex Jul 2015 #58
Fish lives! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #59
Abemen! Rex Jul 2015 #62
+1bazillion! marym625 Jul 2015 #198
Yeah I remember that, he did strongly suspect. Rex Jul 2015 #57
Round up all the usual [strike]sadists [/strike] suspects. merrily Jul 2015 #73
GBCW posts are always subject to comment. MineralMan Jul 2015 #86
These are not comments on a GBCW thread, though. merrily Jul 2015 #89
He does have a way with words, certainly. MineralMan Jul 2015 #95
I disagree. I don't think many DUers have a way with words. merrily Jul 2015 #97
OK. We all see the world differently, I suppose. nt MineralMan Jul 2015 #98
To elaborate a little: MineralMan Jul 2015 #108
I stopped when he threatend Texasgal Jul 2015 #140
Did that really happen? cwydro Jul 2015 #224
Yes he did. Texasgal Jul 2015 #245
I read his temper tantrum rant to Skinner. cwydro Jul 2015 #246
Once enough people are ''shut up'' there'll be new words. Octafish Jul 2015 #136
I'm so with you, except that I believe that those Democrats and words already exist. merrily Jul 2015 #138
The personal attacks by the Tag Team are getting traction, dividing DU and Democrats. Octafish Jul 2015 #139
Any idea what's causing all of this, suddenly? arcane1 Jul 2015 #143
good question grasswire Jul 2015 #184
But not bored enough to stick around and partricipate in the thread. arcane1 Jul 2015 #188
"disgusting sadists" you have a very low opinion of those who do not embrace geek tragedy Jul 2015 #101
When I saw that, I wondered, "Is that poster talking about me?" MineralMan Jul 2015 #109
apparently, "disgusting sadists" doesn't include geek tragedy Jul 2015 #111
I'm not sure, either. MineralMan Jul 2015 #112
this is not his first GBCW. He'll be back. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #113
OK. I've been skipping his threads, ever since the POSUCS MineralMan Jul 2015 #114
Admirable pledge: "I promise that if I leave...there won't be a GBCW post announcing it." Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #222
Jury results. merrily Jul 2015 #74
Was there an explanation given by the alerter? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #93
Not how I read the OP or this thread AT ALL. It's all attacks on Will Pitt. merrily Jul 2015 #96
I can't see the OP as an attack. muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #103
Sorry. Right now, I am grieving Will's departure. merrily Jul 2015 #105
I expect he'll be back sometime muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #107
You hold a minority opinion about this thread's not being the reason for his departure. merrily Jul 2015 #124
It might be this thread, but I think people are guessing muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #145
+1 n/t markpkessinger Jul 2015 #156
Are you forgetting the attacks on those of us that didn't believe the 24 business hour bullshit? Goblinmonger Jul 2015 #159
Am I forgetting something that happened years before I joined? merrily Jul 2015 #160
No, I was discussing *the OP* with you, not the thread as a whole muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #219
indeed. hifiguy Jul 2015 #168
He has had 3 books published and has been on the NYT Best Seller List. merrily Jul 2015 #208
Picked up _The Greatest Sedition is Silence_ a couple months ago. delrem Jul 2015 #223
You usually are a high quality poster here. bluedigger Jul 2015 #84
I think this person was trying to defend "24 business hours" nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #87
From what? bluedigger Jul 2015 #88
I have no idea why anyone with an ounce of sympathy for that poster geek tragedy Jul 2015 #94
Well, I'm glad you're on the inside. bluedigger Jul 2015 #104
best to avoid names to avoid getting hides for callouts geek tragedy Jul 2015 #110
Good summary. There were also awful attacks on anyone who DARED to question to story. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #115
including a vicious attack on Skinner himself! nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #116
Yup, like I posted in the other thread: PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #119
"There's never been any explanation..." THAT'S a big reason that "24 business hours" lives on alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #118
accountabilty is for politicians, not writers nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #123
Politicians are accountable? Who can tell? merrily Jul 2015 #132
they're supposed to be, according to writers, nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #134
Ah, if only things worked in reality as well as they should in theory. merrily Jul 2015 #135
indeed. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #137
I saw it unfold. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #179
Well alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #182
That was my contention at the time. A deliberate disinformation job. I still wonder... stevenleser Jul 2015 #90
Out of curiosity, was there any aftermath to this? DanTex Jul 2015 #152
Nothing, which I think made it worse. Everyone's imagination was allowed to run wild. stevenleser Jul 2015 #175
I'm not sure how the journalistic ethics surrounding burning sources work. DanTex Jul 2015 #228
Well, IMHO, if a source lies, they get burned. In practice, I would have to know for sure that they stevenleser Jul 2015 #229
I hope one of my inaccuracies from seven years ago is brought up when I get home tonight... LanternWaste Jul 2015 #100
I love the oldies too. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #102
Shitty crappy thing to post. Marrah_G Jul 2015 #120
exactly shanti Jul 2015 #242
joined in 2008 - so predictable - this was the turning point around here DrDan Jul 2015 #121
Would not be unprecedented. I still have my copy of this: closeupready Jul 2015 #126
I wonder if they could have carried Missouri oberliner Jul 2015 #130
It's a good question - Gephardt was better-known at the time closeupready Jul 2015 #133
Those were glorious times theboss Jul 2015 #128
what the hell is this shit? ibegurpard Jul 2015 #146
It's called bullying. nt City Lights Jul 2015 #147
Stalkerati dickishness at it's most petty. HughBeaumont Jul 2015 #151
+1 nt hifiguy Jul 2015 #171
Hillary supporters showing their true colors again in this thread LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #148
Pretty sure the person who runs this site is a Hillary supporter oberliner Jul 2015 #149
Sure you do LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #194
Skinner is a Hillary Supporter and his colors are Red White and Blue. I always thought the OP Cha Jul 2015 #196
Despicable OP . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #154
Yep. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #164
+1 leftstreet Jul 2015 #174
Agreed! MelissaB Jul 2015 #192
The OP is clearly meant as a defense of the poster in question melman Jul 2015 #199
Beyond despicable? oberliner Jul 2015 #200
It amounts to shit-stirring . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #212
What's the f'ing deal? JEB Jul 2015 #157
This is really odd. A "post-and"run" from a DU'er who has never been this way... madinmaryland Jul 2015 #158
Why this? Why now? Hekate Jul 2015 #161
Wow...this thread is a fucking disaster. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #162
I concur. This is high school shit. HughBeaumont Jul 2015 #191
Some of y'all are fecking pathetic. demmiblue Jul 2015 #163
Toxic. RiverLover Jul 2015 #165
This mugging is vile and so Republican like sellitman Jul 2015 #173
I really miss Unrec. City Lights Jul 2015 #187
+1000 grasswire Jul 2015 #190
Yep... And Look At All The Call-Outs In This Thread... Unbelievable... WillyT Jul 2015 #204
No, there is no rule about calling people out on DU3 muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #220
What is going on? suffragette Jul 2015 #215
Well my Ignore List just grew by 1 Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #197
Oh Look... Our First Pre-Grave Dancing Thread !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #201
Meh...I wonder whatever happened to bobolink...? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2015 #202
WTF prompted this? joshcryer Jul 2015 #205
I think some people dislike Will Pitt and they take every opportunity to attack him. akbacchus_BC Jul 2015 #209
So it was random? joshcryer Jul 2015 #210
No, I did not say that. I was pissed at Mr. Pitt for calling the fucking President of the US, a used akbacchus_BC Jul 2015 #211
You are disgusting. You really bringing this shit up to akbacchus_BC Jul 2015 #206
that's true grasswire Jul 2015 #226
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #207
Who was Jason' source? Do we know? I found that whole episode fascinating. yodermon Jul 2015 #225
... Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2015 #227
And people still wonder why our circle is shrinking? raouldukelives Jul 2015 #230
Some people are just assholes donheld Jul 2015 #232
Hey --- your rock is missing you. rosesaylavee Jul 2015 #248
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