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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 25, 2015, 12:45 AM

20. "Clarify your point then answer the gawd damn OP!"


Does that attitude work for you elsewhere, Sheshe2? I'm sorry, but your presumption of entitlement over me is deeply flawed.

Have you really been missing the demands - always from Clinton supporters to the rest of DU - to promise to vote for "whoever the Democratic candidate is?" really, are you that unaware? Your post is far from the first.

And really? Did you just sit politics out until joining in 2012 or something? 'Cause "Party Unity My Ass" wasn't, to the best of my knowledge a DU-only phenomena. Well, maybe you did. so let me explain.

In 2008, Clinton was falling behind Obama a little more every day, since the results of the initial primaries. And as she got further and further behind, her supporters got more and more, well, hateful. Like literally rabies-level hatred against barack obama. You think Birtherism got started by Sarah Palin? Donald Trump? nope, it got started on a Hillary Clinton mailing list and was thrown around in Democratic circles before the republicans picked it up and ran with it. There were no shortage of accusations that he was only ahead because of his skin (including the inevitable "race loyalty" garbage against black voters). Geraldine Ferraro was the most memorable of these for me, but i'm certain she wasn't alone.

Then, after the convention, clinton lost the nomination. And then Obama named Biden as his running mate. Well, that sort of made hell break loose. A "movement" sprung up screaming "Party Unity, My Ass!" to oppose obama's nomination, vowign to vote third party or mccain, so on. This progressed into an actual PAC calling itself "People United Means Action."

Now, before you mention it, yes, it was only a minority of Clinton voters. Buuut we didn't know who they were until they basically self-exposed. And then we could see how much of the hatred and froth and rage agaisnt a black candidate was coming from these quarters, and those who had supported the PUMA movement, but ended up sticking with the democrats in the end anyway.

So now I see you, and you have nothing to offer except frothing rage and hatred against sanders and any who support him. You sound just like that noisy minority did - except at the time, their target was actually ahead of Clinton, so it could be rationalized at some level, as a desperate fandom clutching at straws to reverse an inevitable trend.

Basically, no one has any reason to trust a Clinton supporter's loyalty, particularly one like you who seems vastly more interested in shitbagging and spreading hate against any competitors than actually supporting 'your candidate." The group's near-obsessive demand vor blood oaths of undying loyalty no matter what is just adding a sad stink of desperation to the mess.

As for your "gawd damned OP!" I've answered the question enough times that I'm more than a little sick of having an answer demanded of me by presumptious jerks on the internet. Previously, I have been solid in statingthat I would vote for Hillary if she is the nominee, and that 2020 will be my "loyalty test."

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