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In reply to the discussion: BILL CLINTON IS SORRY FOR A LOT OF THINGS, Huffington Post, July 17, 2015 [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)38. I found some Krugman articles that dispel the "it was all the tech bubble" that caused the boom
in wages and employment during the Clinton years.
Clinton derangement syndrome
In my previous post I used the example of Clinton-era growth to argue that even growth in the mid-3s wouldnt be enough to bring unemployment down anywhere near quickly enough. And sure enough, many of the comments are along the lines of Clinton doesnt deserve credit for the growth or It was all the tech bubble.
Um, I never claimed that it was all Clintons achievement. Nor did what I said have anything to do with the sources of the growth (it wasnt all a bubble, but thats another issue). I used the Clinton year because they offer a useful example of what growth at the kind of rate we just saw in the 3rd quarter means for employment.
Yes, I had a parenthetical aside about Clinton-era growth being faster than most people realize. So?
But I guess I sort of expected this. Even now, any mention of anything good that happened between the end of 1992 and the beginning of 2001 is like waving a red flag. Amazing.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/clinton-derangement-syndrome/
In my previous post I used the example of Clinton-era growth to argue that even growth in the mid-3s wouldnt be enough to bring unemployment down anywhere near quickly enough. And sure enough, many of the comments are along the lines of Clinton doesnt deserve credit for the growth or It was all the tech bubble.
Um, I never claimed that it was all Clintons achievement. Nor did what I said have anything to do with the sources of the growth (it wasnt all a bubble, but thats another issue). I used the Clinton year because they offer a useful example of what growth at the kind of rate we just saw in the 3rd quarter means for employment.
Yes, I had a parenthetical aside about Clinton-era growth being faster than most people realize. So?
But I guess I sort of expected this. Even now, any mention of anything good that happened between the end of 1992 and the beginning of 2001 is like waving a red flag. Amazing.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/clinton-derangement-syndrome/
Clinton presided over eight years of job growth, with job growth at roughly equal rates in the first and second halves of that eight-year period, and the internet bubble inflated only in the second half.
Yes, dotcoms went to ridiculous levels but people werent borrowing vast amounts to buy them, so there wasnt a deleveraging crisis when the bubble burst.
The point here is that while there was irrational exuberance in the 1990s, the Clinton-era expansion wasnt fundamentally unsound the way the expansion of 2003-2007 the Bush boom was.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/a-tale-of-two-bubbles/
Im old enough to remember the cries of doom when Clinton pushed through an increase in top tax rates. If you were reading the WSJ editorial page, or Forbes, or listening to Newt Gingrich, you knew that it was time to sell all your stocks and wait for the depression.
And Obama, of course, was bringing on hyperinflationary collapse with his health reform and tax hikes at the top.
Needless to say, none of it happened; what the Democratic booms show is that you can strengthen the safety net and raise taxes on the wealthy without causing economic disaster.
If politics made any sense, Democrats would be celebrating Clinton in the way Republicans celebrate the blessed Ronald, and theyd be hailing Obama as Saint Bills second coming.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/21/democratic-booms/?_r=0
And Obama, of course, was bringing on hyperinflationary collapse with his health reform and tax hikes at the top.
Needless to say, none of it happened; what the Democratic booms show is that you can strengthen the safety net and raise taxes on the wealthy without causing economic disaster.
If politics made any sense, Democrats would be celebrating Clinton in the way Republicans celebrate the blessed Ronald, and theyd be hailing Obama as Saint Bills second coming.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/21/democratic-booms/?_r=0
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BILL CLINTON IS SORRY FOR A LOT OF THINGS, Huffington Post, July 17, 2015 [View all]
appalachiablue
Jul 2015
OP
Is Bill Clinton sorry for asking Paul Ryan to "call him" on cutting Medicare in 2012?
daredtowork
Jul 2015
#2
Many US systems & institutions need rebuilding, improving and I hope the Dem. Party is one.
appalachiablue
Jul 2015
#5
The article's VIDEO has a clip where Bill speaks at length on derivatives, risky financial products
appalachiablue
Jul 2015
#9
Bill offered a mea culpa (Latin, 'through my fault') around sentencing at an NAACP
appalachiablue
Jul 2015
#7
I get your point, but people frequently cross post, especially after they have typed out and
appalachiablue
Jul 2015
#11
These Men are Saving the World, like Lloyd 'I'm Doing God's Work!' Blankfein of Goldman said.
appalachiablue
Jul 2015
#21
Bill is obviously well aware that some of his policies and decisions really sucked.
Buns_of_Fire
Jul 2015
#19
CRIMINAL JUSTICE was one of the policy areas Clinton admitted was a mistake in this HUFFPO
appalachiablue
Jul 2015
#20
Every president has made mistakes, but higher wages, lower unemployment, no wars ...
pampango
Jul 2015
#25
I found some Krugman articles that dispel the "it was all the tech bubble" that caused the boom
pampango
Jul 2015
#38
The economy normally performs much better under Democratic presidents. Clinton
pampango
Jul 2015
#36
I hear you, it's all a mess. Check out the article, it's brief & there's a video of compiled
appalachiablue
Jul 2015
#29
As he should be, just not as sorry as we are for all the shit he put us through.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jul 2015
#28