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pampango

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38. I found some Krugman articles that dispel the "it was all the tech bubble" that caused the boom
Sat Jul 18, 2015, 09:50 PM
Jul 2015

in wages and employment during the Clinton years.

Clinton derangement syndrome

In my previous post I used the example of Clinton-era growth to argue that even growth in the mid-3s wouldn’t be enough to bring unemployment down anywhere near quickly enough. And sure enough, many of the comments are along the lines of “Clinton doesn’t deserve credit for the growth” or “It was all the tech bubble.”

Um, I never claimed that it was all Clinton’s achievement. Nor did what I said have anything to do with the sources of the growth (it wasn’t all a bubble, but that’s another issue). I used the Clinton year because they offer a useful example of what growth at the kind of rate we just saw in the 3rd quarter means for employment.

Yes, I had a parenthetical aside about Clinton-era growth being faster than most people realize. So?

But I guess I sort of expected this. Even now, any mention of anything good that happened between the end of 1992 and the beginning of 2001 is like waving a red flag. Amazing.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/clinton-derangement-syndrome/

Clinton presided over eight years of job growth, with job growth at roughly equal rates in the first and second halves of that eight-year period, and the internet bubble inflated only in the second half.

Yes, dotcoms went to ridiculous levels — but people weren’t borrowing vast amounts to buy them, so there wasn’t a deleveraging crisis when the bubble burst.

The point here is that while there was irrational exuberance in the 1990s, the Clinton-era expansion wasn’t fundamentally unsound the way the expansion of 2003-2007 — the “Bush boom” — was.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/a-tale-of-two-bubbles/

I’m old enough to remember the cries of doom when Clinton pushed through an increase in top tax rates. If you were reading the WSJ editorial page, or Forbes, or listening to Newt Gingrich, you knew that it was time to sell all your stocks and wait for the depression.

And Obama, of course, was bringing on hyperinflationary collapse with his health reform and tax hikes at the top.

Needless to say, none of it happened; what the Democratic booms show is that you can strengthen the safety net and raise taxes on the wealthy without causing economic disaster.

If politics made any sense, Democrats would be celebrating Clinton in the way Republicans celebrate the blessed Ronald, and they’d be hailing Obama as Saint Bill’s second coming.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/21/democratic-booms/?_r=0
Not as sorry as we are I'll bet. haikugal Jul 2015 #1
Beat me to it. hifiguy Jul 2015 #15
Is Bill Clinton sorry for asking Paul Ryan to "call him" on cutting Medicare in 2012? daredtowork Jul 2015 #2
Really Bill? Really? artislife Jul 2015 #14
I'm sorriest for "triangulation" truebluegreen Jul 2015 #3
Many US systems & institutions need rebuilding, improving and I hope the Dem. Party is one. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #5
Yes, and even sorrier to see LWolf Jul 2015 #8
The article's VIDEO has a clip where Bill speaks at length on derivatives, risky financial products appalachiablue Jul 2015 #9
He's a decade plus late and 20 or 30 trillion short, hifiguy Jul 2015 #18
He's keeping the money though, isn't he? nt bemildred Jul 2015 #4
Too late now, Bill. bigwillq Jul 2015 #6
Bill offered a mea culpa (Latin, 'through my fault') around sentencing at an NAACP appalachiablue Jul 2015 #7
Why not just post the link to the Huffington Post article (link here). HappyPlace Jul 2015 #10
I get your point, but people frequently cross post, especially after they have typed out and appalachiablue Jul 2015 #11
True, crossposting is cool. HappyPlace Jul 2015 #12
And yet they keep surrounding themselves with people like Tim Geithner Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #13
These Men are Saving the World, like Lloyd 'I'm Doing God's Work!' Blankfein of Goldman said. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #21
Those three and Blankfein would look wonderful hifiguy Jul 2015 #33
Are Hillary's apologies coming soon aspirant Jul 2015 #16
Bill is obviously well aware that some of his policies and decisions really sucked. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #19
What DOES one call it when recognizing reality takes 20 years? hatrack Jul 2015 #17
CRIMINAL JUSTICE was one of the policy areas Clinton admitted was a mistake in this HUFFPO appalachiablue Jul 2015 #20
A reverse Sista Soulja moment? ZX86 Jul 2015 #22
UBS Switzerland is hiring? Octafish Jul 2015 #23
Yeah. They modernized the nation's banking, insurance and securities laws. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #24
Every president has made mistakes, but higher wages, lower unemployment, no wars ... pampango Jul 2015 #25
The jobs and wages were almost entirely the result the Internet Bubble hifiguy Jul 2015 #32
Not true. That is a right wing talking point. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #35
I found some Krugman articles that dispel the "it was all the tech bubble" that caused the boom pampango Jul 2015 #38
The economy normally performs much better under Democratic presidents. Clinton pampango Jul 2015 #36
That much is true. Has been since FDR. hifiguy Jul 2015 #37
I did not read the link, but is Willie sorry for rushing home to Arkansas guillaumeb Jul 2015 #26
I hear you, it's all a mess. Check out the article, it's brief & there's a video of compiled appalachiablue Jul 2015 #29
When my dog tears up the carpet and sadoldgirl Jul 2015 #27
Great analogy. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #30
As he should be, just not as sorry as we are for all the shit he put us through. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #28
We're so sorry Uncle Albert if we caused you any paiin Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #31
He's certainly got a lot he should be sorry for. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #34
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