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frylock

(34,825 posts)
86. he was so scared he got out of his truck to pursue martin..
Thu May 17, 2012, 04:31 PM
May 2012

is that what you're saying? because if i'm in that much fear for my life, then i stay in my truck and wait for the police, as he was instructed to do.

No. marybourg May 2012 #1
The doctor was his family doctor so... I throw out anything that he says, in light of the pictures ScreamingMeemie May 2012 #2
I decided a long time ago that Zimmerman's actions were morally wrong. I am still undecided... slackmaster May 2012 #3
Hell no. EOTE May 2012 #4
No ananda May 2012 #5
No! K.T.M. May 2012 #6
The small child was over 6 feet tall. dkf May 2012 #16
I believe the poster was being sarcastic. nt. Mariana May 2012 #36
Yes obamanut2012 May 2012 #77
and has been shown the door. NoGOPZone May 2012 #83
I didn't realize it was sarcasm - thought it was hyperbole. Chemisse May 2012 #99
Welcome to DU obamanut2012 May 2012 #78
No DJ13 May 2012 #7
Is that a loaded question? nt Remmah2 May 2012 #8
No. But I knew that is how some would see it. Stinky The Clown May 2012 #9
Makes me wonder what has happened to our justice system. Remmah2 May 2012 #19
What does nt mean LACarMan May 2012 #29
Same as NTXT nt Remmah2 May 2012 #35
Heh, why would you think that answered his/her question? Stinky The Clown May 2012 #37
What's the problem? nt Remmah2 May 2012 #159
So nt means no text? LACarMan May 2012 #175
Sometimes the message-text box has to have a minimum input. So... Remmah2 May 2012 #177
I remember a few years ago when I asked that very same question. Chemisse May 2012 #101
In case you haven't received a decent reply as of yet... EOTE May 2012 #103
It means there is no message in the body of the post, Chemisse May 2012 #104
No. You don't shoot someone for punching you in the nose treestar May 2012 #10
Actually, you can shoot someone for punching you in the nose. What you CAN'T do is pick a fight, slackmaster May 2012 #14
You no doubt do NOT shoot someone while being punched in the nose on the ground uponit7771 May 2012 #24
It seems to me it would be very difficult to do so slackmaster May 2012 #47
And not from an 'intermediate distance" nt stevenleser May 2012 #132
He was shot from intermediate range, not up close. alarimer May 2012 #154
You are mistaken about what intermediate range means in this context. Google some definitions. slackmaster May 2012 #161
Just to expound on what you said... TheWraith May 2012 #94
Getting punched in the nose is not fatal treestar May 2012 #109
I disagree completely. Any blow to the head can be fatal, or cause a person to fall and receive... slackmaster May 2012 #160
I haven't made up my mind yet B2G May 2012 #11
I haven't either. badtoworse May 2012 #12
Perhaps a better question would be, George Zimmerman is on medication which can be used for ADHD.. nenagh May 2012 #13
I havent seen the actual report anywhere online NoGOPZone May 2012 #15
no, the facts remain the same. Bluerthanblue May 2012 #17
My view of what happened hasn't changed since the very beginning RZM May 2012 #18
Between the police's poor job investagating the scene, and the media sensationalizing the story, ZombieHorde May 2012 #20
Nope. Iggo May 2012 #21
No. Lugnut May 2012 #22
****THE REPORT IS FALSE, NO INJURIES TO KNUCKES IT WAS SMALL CUT ON FINGER***** uponit7771 May 2012 #23
Unfortunately, that small cut on the finger is more than enough to Solomon May 2012 #30
Yeap, some will look for any reason to justify ZMans actions uponit7771 May 2012 #34
No dwilso40641 May 2012 #25
His injuries aren't the relevant point... brooklynite May 2012 #26
+1 uponit7771 May 2012 #27
exactly! I don't see that point made often enough renate May 2012 #91
That is so true. Chemisse May 2012 #105
No. My opinion is that Zimmerman never should've left his car deutsey May 2012 #28
Especially since the police dispatcher told him to back off and stand down. mac56 May 2012 #32
+1 uponit7771 May 2012 #43
I still don't know enough to come to any conclusion. dkf May 2012 #31
**Reasonable** fear of his life cthulu2016 May 2012 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids May 2012 #44
Strange You say You Don't Know Enough To Come To A Conclusion HangOnKids May 2012 #45
I don't read it that way at all metalbot May 2012 #63
We don't need no stinkin' legal system B2G May 2012 #66
Wow Can You Paint My BackYard Fence With That Broad Brush? HangOnKids May 2012 #69
I wasn't chatting with you to begin with B2G May 2012 #73
Fine And Dandy HangOnKids May 2012 #67
Self defense is an affirmative defense, though treestar May 2012 #110
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #53
LOL.....N/T BronxBoy May 2012 #56
Bow Down To Pithy Greatness! HangOnKids May 2012 #58
and what, exactly was he afraid of: the hoodie? the skittles? or the skin color? noiretextatique May 2012 #61
he was so scared he got out of his truck to pursue martin.. frylock May 2012 #86
So if Trayvon had shot and killed Zimmerman, you would be ok with that too? yardwork May 2012 #122
If they had been fighting over the gun and he shot Zimmerman... dkf May 2012 #131
What if there was no fighting over the gun? What if Trayvon had had a gun and shot Zimmerman? yardwork May 2012 #135
If Zimmerman was over Martin and pounding on him then yes I would consider dkf May 2012 #139
That's not what I'm saying. I'm asking you to reverse the people and keep everything else the same. yardwork May 2012 #140
If he felt threatened while being beaten up then yes. dkf May 2012 #143
What if he was not being beaten up and didn't have a gun pulled on him? Still ok? yardwork May 2012 #144
He had to have been reasonably in fear of his life. dkf May 2012 #158
If being followed doesn't qualify, then how was Zimmerman in fear of his life? yardwork May 2012 #166
At least according to his story it's because he was getting his head bashed in Travelman May 2012 #168
But you stated that you were certain that Zimmerman was in fear of his life. yardwork May 2012 #170
I did? Travelman May 2012 #174
Neither do I. Skip Intro May 2012 #134
That sums up my point of view as well. Nicely said. Vattel May 2012 #151
to the right.... to the right.... fascisthunter May 2012 #150
No. jp11 May 2012 #38
What we DO know is that Trayvon was scared of the adult stranger that had been following him and blm May 2012 #41
That's what gets me. We know what both states of mind were before the crap went Solomon May 2012 #93
Exactly. Lilyeye May 2012 #115
No. I say a gun shouldn't end a fight - especially a fight where a teen was standing his ground blm May 2012 #39
Not at all NoPasaran May 2012 #40
Not at all. Confirms what I've thought. It will be interesting to see if sinkingfeeling May 2012 #42
Yes. An eyewitness was on TV the very next day after the shooting. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #60
and another witness disputes that wtinesses' claims noiretextatique May 2012 #64
Here is the link: GreenStormCloud May 2012 #90
Wow. I hadn't seen that. Martin was on top beating Zimmerman? Hassin Bin Sober May 2012 #157
my nose is broken, but i don't seek medical attention noiretextatique May 2012 #65
WTF? cthulu2016 May 2012 #72
then why bring it up? i guess he's using it as an excuse for murder noiretextatique May 2012 #80
Yes pscot May 2012 #46
Why? The autopsy shows the boy has a cut on his finger. vaberella May 2012 #87
You need 12 jurors to agree it was murder pscot May 2012 #146
No. Ganja Ninja May 2012 #48
no. barbtries May 2012 #49
The 911 call indicates Zimmerman brought the fight to Trayvon. Courtesy Flush May 2012 #50
No. I always believed that Trayvon hit him, and that Zimmerman was still a murderer. ieoeja May 2012 #51
Where can I see those myspace postings? Lilyeye May 2012 #118
No jwirr May 2012 #52
I have my own opinions Meiko May 2012 #54
The Trail Of What? HangOnKids May 2012 #59
Pictures don't lie marlakay May 2012 #55
No. Zimmerman's story still makes no sense to me. Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #57
the bastard is guilty as sin noiretextatique May 2012 #62
The autopsy report has not changed my view much, which is that coalition_unwilling May 2012 #68
he was carrying a gun bowens43 May 2012 #70
My opinion is really irrelevant. MineralMan May 2012 #71
No, I still think the shooting was unjustified. n/t RebelOne May 2012 #74
Not in the least. 99Forever May 2012 #75
Confirmed my thoughts -- only two wounds on Travyon obamanut2012 May 2012 #76
I'll wait for the prosecutions case and the evidence they offer. Life Long Dem May 2012 #79
NYT just had an article deterring missteps by the police in investigating the case alp227 May 2012 #81
No!! What the hell was Zimmerman doing harrassing somebody who was just walking WI_DEM May 2012 #82
nope frylock May 2012 #84
Yes. It's cemented it. mwooldri May 2012 #85
i haven't heard of any new info that changes anything. Zimmerman is still a murdering thug JI7 May 2012 #88
I have no clue if he is guilty or not. NCTraveler May 2012 #89
No. MissMarple May 2012 #92
Uh, no. The kid was defending himself from a guy who was stalking him. Butterbean May 2012 #95
No. One had a gun and followed the other until one of them was dead lunatica May 2012 #96
No. Starry Messenger May 2012 #97
No. He was stalked. Chemisse May 2012 #98
I have never been sure of his guilt or innocence - lynne May 2012 #100
No, it only strenthens my view of what I think happened. RedSpartan May 2012 #102
No....How can Zimmer plead SYG defense when clearly heard just before the shot "HELP ME" opihimoimoi May 2012 #107
Treyvon's father said voice on tape calling for help was not his son - lynne May 2012 #112
No it doesn't. Read the 4th paragraph where Trayvon's father says that he recognized his son's voice yardwork May 2012 #119
Thank you, I see that now - lynne May 2012 #123
That information has been published in news reports for months now. yardwork May 2012 #128
If he had carried mace instead of a gun..... Kingofalldems May 2012 #106
I suspect Zimmerman would have ended up with a can of Mace up his ass slackmaster May 2012 #108
Makes no sense Kingofalldems May 2012 #164
Nope -- I'll wait for all of the evidence and then make up my mind. nt CokeMachine May 2012 #111
Those details seem irrelevant to me Nevernose May 2012 #113
Yup I think he's more guilty now than I did and I always thought he was guilty madokie May 2012 #114
No. Trayvon had as much right to defend himself as Zimmy claims to have. appleannie1 May 2012 #116
I'm leaning toward the belief that Zimmerman will walk kudzu22 May 2012 #117
No. I am certain that Zimmerman stalked and killed a young man because of racial profiling. yardwork May 2012 #120
No. I still have no idea what really happened that night. Throd May 2012 #121
Nope. I still believe Trayvon is the victim here and any post-mortem attempts Cleita May 2012 #124
Not sure of guilt but the whole issue was with how the police handled it underpants May 2012 #125
what autopsy? all I've seen so far is third person PR. mulsh May 2012 #126
I got fucking PISSED when MSNBC posted that on Facebook last night Amerigo Vespucci May 2012 #127
No bigwillq May 2012 #129
No... because from the start, I never had an opinion on his guilt or innocence. -..__... May 2012 #130
I still think Zimmerman was the aggressor and should be.. mvd May 2012 #133
No! Zimmerman was the instigator and aggressor.. tokenlib May 2012 #136
No - white adult male stalks kid TBF May 2012 #137
I think his mom is Hispanic. Zax2me May 2012 #145
And that negates an adult stalking a child and murdering him? OK ..... TBF May 2012 #156
No. Zimmerman was in predatory mode from the moment he began following Trayvon in his SUV. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #138
If one switches around genders and races maybe it's clearer grok May 2012 #141
I'll bite Daalalou May 2012 #148
That sound's about right. grok May 2012 #155
No. Mr. Martin had every right to defend himself from Zimmerman. Dawson Leery May 2012 #142
Guess the pictures of injuries were doctored. Zax2me May 2012 #147
No bruises consistant with fight on Martins fist and you STILL want to defend ZMan? uponit7771 May 2012 #153
a little info on bruising belcffub May 2012 #163
how do explain the pictures taken at the police station noiretextatique May 2012 #162
There is no way this story can be felix_numinous May 2012 #149
Nope. A kid is still dead. alarimer May 2012 #152
Nope. The additional information is all chaff MurrayDelph May 2012 #165
No Zimmerman ran after Martin. Martin was probabbly scared out of his mind. nt Quixote1818 May 2012 #167
Yes... it has ....No way will he be convicted of 2nd Degree Murder... virginia mountainman May 2012 #169
what, that he smoked some pot in the past thirty days and seems to have stood his ground arely staircase May 2012 #171
No Riley18 May 2012 #172
no. magical thyme May 2012 #173
Not at all TorchTheWitch May 2012 #176
No. I still think his guilt should and will be decided by a jury. crayfish May 2012 #178
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