You are not alone-it is a relief to know I am not the only one (Reply #156)

In the discussion thread: Do you put your hand over your heart during the National Anthem? [View all]

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:08 AM

156. You are not alone-it is a relief to know I am not the only one

Every since the state of Washington let my working daughter die from a perfectly correctable condition that if we had money would have been taken care of. Her life was worth only $3 to this government. I do not pledge alligence, or sing the anthem. I see too much evil accepted in this country

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244 replies	Author	Time	Post
Do you put your hand over your heart during the National Anthem? [View all]	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2015	OP
Only when I had to in school. Not since.	NRaleighLiberal	Jun 2015	#1
I stopped after school also.	NOLALady	Jul 2015	#81
Me, too. No blind patriotism here.	nruthie	Jul 2015	#86
I never heard of doing this in school.	Cassidy1	Jul 2015	#143
No. And Ronald Reagan began that practice. You don't see any presidents doing it	roguevalley	Jul 2015	#183
pre Reagan, it was enough to stand	Warpy	Jul 2015	#227
Makes no sense. Why do I need to hold my heart to sing an old war song?	immoderate	Jul 2015	#231
Stopped in the 1970's	GoneOffShore	Jun 2015	#2
Yeah, the 60's did it for me...	haikugal	Jun 2015	#4
Me too, after the Time-Life photos of the My Lai massacre were published.	Laffy Kat	Jun 2015	#15
Same here.	MuseRider	Jul 2015	#182
Same with baseball games!	Laffy Kat	Jul 2015	#185
Sure. I'll sing the anthem too.	Snobblevitch	Jun 2015	#3
It's not "undemocratic"...	Contrary1	Jun 2015	#27
Why?	Snobblevitch	Jul 2015	#57
Nothing at all to do with whether it is democratic.	Ms. Toad	Jul 2015	#50
Huh?	Snobblevitch	Jul 2015	#56
Ok, here's how I feel about it...	Contrary1	Jul 2015	#59
Read my post again.	Snobblevitch	Jul 2015	#62
"Under God" was added to the Pledge in 1954...	Human101948	Jul 2015	#67
You are not alone-it is a relief to know I am not the only one	Stargazer99	Jul 2015	#156
I'm terribly sorry you had to go through that. I DO feel the same about the pledge and the anthem.	BlueJazz	Jul 2015	#230
Outrageous. I also don't blame you.	closeupready	Jul 2015	#239
As I said, it is a glorification of war (as the U.S. was fighting off an attack).	Ms. Toad	Jul 2015	#60
Methinks you and I would get along fabulously!	Contrary1	Jul 2015	#61
Snobblevitch wrote:	Cassidy1	Jul 2015	#145
You need to re-read my post.	Snobblevitch	Jul 2015	#160
No, I don't need to reread it.	Cassidy1	Jul 2015	#165
Without the Revolutionary War	Snobblevitch	Jul 2015	#167
Events in 1960's changed everything for me. That's the context which continues today	2banon	Jul 2015	#208
When I was a kid we celebrated	Snobblevitch	Jul 2015	#210
Good Ole' Red White and Blue..	2banon	Jul 2015	#213
I don't know how much romance there will be...	Snobblevitch	Jul 2015	#216
How do you see that?	cwydro	Jul 2015	#70
I was in France last year and our tour bus stopped at a restaurant somewhere on our	CTyankee	Jul 2015	#91
Isn't that a nice memory? I'm not sure if they still do this, but	closeupready	Jul 2015	#240
Read the lyrics.	Ms. Toad	Jul 2015	#132
It is un-Progressive.	ncjustice80	Jul 2015	#68
Really?	TeddyR	Jul 2015	#71
Post removed	Post removed	Jul 2015	#152
Showing respect for the flag and the anthem	Snobblevitch	Jul 2015	#97
Not putting your hand over	Cassidy1	Jul 2015	#153
I never claimed otherwise.	Snobblevitch	Jul 2015	#161
I never said you claimed it.	Cassidy1	Jul 2015	#166
Then you probably should not have posted it as a reply to my post.	Snobblevitch	Jul 2015	#172
HA! I am SOOOOO over everything! I don't watch baseball so I became ill...	WhaTHellsgoingonhere	Jun 2015	#5
What? thought they've been play GBA for a century? or may just NYC. nt	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2015	#21
Wut? Everyone for a century sings "Take Me Out to the Ballgame"	WhaTHellsgoingonhere	Jun 2015	#28
duh. wow..I think must have had	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#43
I hate it so much, I always head to the bathroom for the 7th inning stretch.	alarimer	Jul 2015	#77
Really?	Cassidy1	Jul 2015	#146
Yes, you are not to leave your seat unless there is a break in the action.	alarimer	Jul 2015	#171
yes	Skittles	Jun 2015	#6
Indeed Sgt!	Glassunion	Jun 2015	#10
So the antics/crimes of Bush and us killing people not affect your thinking at all? Not	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2015	#23
The "antics/crimes of Bush and us killing people"	TeddyR	Jul 2015	#72
agree 100%	NM_Birder	Jul 2015	#94
I agree 100%	leftynyc	Jul 2015	#98
+1	Glassunion	Jul 2015	#188
I never have	Peregrine	Jun 2015	#7
That's what I was taught in school.	Mister Ed	Jun 2015	#13
That is what I was taught too. nt	Live and Learn	Jun 2015	#40
I think those are the rules.	immoderate	Jul 2015	#103
Taught the same.	DawgHouse	Jul 2015	#119
I do. while I think the patriotic ritual and obligatory "yay troops!" is pretty	petronius	Jun 2015	#8
The military actually pays the NFL	Cassidy1	Jul 2015	#148
Sorry, visceral reaction because we lost our mind after 9/11...	WhaTHellsgoingonhere	Jun 2015	#9
?	Skittles	Jun 2015	#12
As have I, Skittles, and I salute you for it.	11 Bravo	Jul 2015	#126
when I lived in England, I stood when they played God Save the Queen	Skittles	Jul 2015	#137
It's a matter of respect, and honoring an ideal	pinboy3niner	Jul 2015	#144
CORRECT	Skittles	Jul 2015	#149
+1	DashOneBravo	Jul 2015	#217
No. It's not necessary...	ms liberty	Jun 2015	#11
Uh, no. Never have.	NV Whino	Jun 2015	#14
just curious...why? I find myself at big events where I am the only one not. nt	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2015	#24
It was never expected when I was a kid	NV Whino	Jul 2015	#89
I am the president of the Marana Democratic club and the Sunflower Democratic Club	OffWithTheirHeads	Jun 2015	#16
Perhaps you can take a different perspective	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#211
No. That's not something I ever did.	City Lights	Jun 2015	#17
I usually just stand, and feel a little uncomfortable at that.	Alkene	Jun 2015	#18
Embarrassing armpit stains?	jberryhill	Jun 2015	#30
No	bigwillq	Jun 2015	#19
Sometimes....other times no. Just depends on if I'm wearing a hat or not.	ileus	Jun 2015	#20
yes..	Liberal_in_LA	Jun 2015	#22
Nope. And why the hell is the anthem played at sporting events?	Arugula Latte	Jun 2015	#25
Yep. The whole thing is creeptacular in 2015.	HughBeaumont	Jul 2015	#117
I do	shenmue	Jun 2015	#26
No. Never have	Spirochete	Jun 2015	#29
No. Not for a long time now.	pscot	Jun 2015	#31
I will stand at attention...at least no slouching	GP6971	Jun 2015	#32
No; I sing.	elleng	Jun 2015	#33
Post removed	Post removed	May 2016	#242
The American fascination with the Anthem and the pledge are signs of fascism.	guillaumeb	Jun 2015	#34
What fascination?	leftynyc	Jul 2015	#100
My point was the obsession with symbolic demonstrations of patriotism.	guillaumeb	Jul 2015	#121
of course I do	grasswire	Jun 2015	#35
Yes. Stand up, hat (if any) off, hand over heart. nt	kelly1mm	Jun 2015	#36
people put too much value on symbolism particularly conservatives.	craigmatic	Jun 2015	#37
I won't even stand up.	Luminous Animal	Jun 2015	#38
wow very ballsy n t	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#44
In my case, it is very ovaries-y. I stopped standing when I was 12 years old to protest the Viet Nam	Luminous Animal	Jul 2015	#46
I applaud you. you must be stronger than	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#48
I do.	840high	Jun 2015	#39
I always place my hand over my heart.	dem in texas	Jun 2015	#41
I don't equate it to the brave people	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#47
YES !	olddots	Jul 2015	#42
Yes. Only time I didn't was when I was in Uniform. Then, I saluted. nt	stevenleser	Jul 2015	#45
Same.	linuxman	Jul 2015	#63
Nope.	Ms. Toad	Jul 2015	#49
Without fail, whenever I hear the anthem played, my mind will wander to this...	Contrary1	Jul 2015	#58
Are We Democrats Not True Americans?	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#51
This is an outstanding post	TeddyR	Jul 2015	#73
great post - from another vet	DrDan	Jul 2015	#75
Same here	DashOneBravo	Jul 2015	#218
I Stopped Doing It In the Early 70's	ProfessorGAC	Jul 2015	#78
Really?	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#113
Your Cites Are Reinforcing My Opinion	ProfessorGAC	Jul 2015	#122
Gestures are only meaningless...	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#155
No, that is not the section in question.	Cassidy1	Jul 2015	#164
Oh, it's a law alright....	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#170
It does not include enforcement provisions.	johnkramer	Jul 2015	#176
You are absolutely right	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#194
Sorry, no hand over the heart, jingo jango for me.	Darb	Jul 2015	#92
Please see my reply in Post #113 n/t	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#115
Great post	leftynyc	Jul 2015	#102
Bush was just the impetus - As long as our country is killing innocents ) I will not	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#139
I think this is a good point.	Cassidy1	Jul 2015	#150
I quit years ago	SCantiGOP	Jul 2015	#52
I never stopped. I'm not a "fair-weather" type of person in any respect.	cherokeeprogressive	Jul 2015	#53
I like that sentiment	nil desperandum	Jul 2015	#96
Drops mic..walks off stage.	Inkfreak	Jul 2015	#133
I'll never understand the dropped mic thing! lol n/t	cherokeeprogressive	Jul 2015	#135
I don't for the pledge either & have become your friends with other non hand over heart people too.	uppityperson	Jul 2015	#54
Stopped saluting in 1965.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jul 2015	#55
No.	Grey	Jul 2015	#64
I never have.	Blue_In_AK	Jul 2015	#65
I'm usually grabbing another beer.	PeteSelman	Jul 2015	#66
Do you put your hand over your heart during the National Anthem?	Hayduke Bomgarte	Jul 2015	#69
People would think I was weird if I did that...	Violet_Crumble	Jul 2015	#74
No. I Don't	ProfessorGAC	Jul 2015	#76
always n/t	chillfactor	Jul 2015	#79
Mostly no.	alarimer	Jul 2015	#80
I fold my arms and put on my grouchy face	Man from Pickens	Jul 2015	#82
I bet you're fun at Christmas.	tavernier	Jul 2015	#125
I can be, for the right price	Man from Pickens	Jul 2015	#159
omg roflmao	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#224
Yes, and feel totally guilty if I don't when the flag passes by in the Memorial Day parade.	woodsprite	Jul 2015	#83
Nah, but I didn't do it to be cool	The2ndWheel	Jul 2015	#84
I'm a veteran; I stand at attention.	Half-Century Man	Jul 2015	#85
According to the flag code......	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#112
That's a relatively recent change (October 2008)	pinboy3niner	Jul 2015	#124
I'm not sure if it is a recent change or not....	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#169
Same Here	DustyJoe	Jul 2015	#205
Perhaps it's time to rewrite the Pledge.	GoneOffShore	Jul 2015	#87
No.	LWolf	Jul 2015	#88
Yes, absolutely . nt	clarice	Jul 2015	#90
absolutely, .......also take your hat off, .....sing it or be quiet.	NM_Birder	Jul 2015	#93
Great post!	Texasgal	Jul 2015	#187
Excellent Post!	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#195
"I didn't know that some believe that hatred of our country is a prerequisite	Contrary1	Jul 2015	#199
Maybe "hatred" is too strong a word	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#200
Yeah	TeddyR	Jul 2015	#209
- 1	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#223
Bah bye again. You are not a dem and not liberal - don't think this is really	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#222
Well, you don't know what you don't know...	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#226
Wow. No, don't know you. All any of us can judge by are the comments you have made	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#235
Bah bye	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#220
- 1	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#219
Great post A--Number 1 nt	Freelancer	Jul 2015	#232
Yes, I do	davidpdx	Jul 2015	#95
I stand at the position of attention (like I did when I was in the army)	Victor_c3	Jul 2015	#99
Same here. In the Corps they told us to stand at attention in civvies	Recursion	Jul 2015	#107
I do the same. nt	hack89	Jul 2015	#109
Nope	Kelvin Mace	Jul 2015	#101
I put mine over someone else's heart	jberryhill	Jul 2015	#104
Yep.	raouldukelives	Jul 2015	#105
In the military I got in the habit of standing in attention and never went back to hand over heart	Recursion	Jul 2015	#106
I have a beer in one hand and hotdog in the other	NightWatcher	Jul 2015	#108
Nope. Not sure that I ever have.	Iggo	Jul 2015	#110
Right hand over heart, hat in left hand.	Throd	Jul 2015	#111
Never have...no reason to start, or stop	Horse with no Name	Jul 2015	#114
I do.	NCTraveler	Jul 2015	#116
I stand respectfully, hat off if necessary, and that's about it.	HughBeaumont	Jul 2015	#118
Not if it's on TV.	KamaAina	Jul 2015	#120
Now that's funny !!! KA	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#140
Yes, in public.	tavernier	Jul 2015	#123
The only time I've actually heard anyone sing it,	Jamastiene	Jul 2015	#127
+1	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#141
Yes.	tymorial	Jul 2015	#128
NO. Hands at small of my back.	benld74	Jul 2015	#129
No.	AngryOldDem	Jul 2015	#130
Nope, i just stand n/t	shanti	Jul 2015	#131
Yea, it doesn't bug me. (nt)	Inkfreak	Jul 2015	#134
Not usually	asturias31	Jul 2015	#136
Very well said! n/t	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#157
Yes.	hay rick	Jul 2015	#138
Sometimes I Do	Liberal_Dog	Jul 2015	#142
If I'm watching on TV,	Jamaal510	Jul 2015	#147
Some People Give Me Grief, But I Have To Say...	ChiciB1	Jul 2015	#151
I would not give you grief.	Cassidy1	Jul 2015	#154
Thanks, Many I Know Disagree...	ChiciB1	Jul 2015	#174
Let down by whom?	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#158
The country is not providing you the right to sit.	Cassidy1	Jul 2015	#162
I think we are parsing words here	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#173
That is not the meaning of the word parsing.	johnkramer	Jul 2015	#181
You need to spend some time with some good histrory books	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#191
You need to spend some time with good common sense.	johnkramer	Jul 2015	#193
It is obvious you haven't read my post	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#196
If I did not read it, then I would have not been able to point out the logical fallacies.	johnkramer	Jul 2015	#198
Give me a break please	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#201
It's a good thing that the British and Russians did not cave like you.	johnkramer	Jul 2015	#206
One more time only	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#214
I understand that there a times when you have to fight.	johnkramer	Jul 2015	#215
The Imperial Japanese didn't even take Hawaii when they had the chance	Art_from_Ark	Jul 2015	#197
I agree....	CajunBlazer	Jul 2015	#202
There Ya Go... n/t	ChiciB1	Jul 2015	#175
I do not.	lovemydog	Jul 2015	#163
No	B Calm	Jul 2015	#168
No. And I've stopped singing as well.	mnhtnbb	Jul 2015	#177
I will stand but not sing, not pledge, no hand over heart.	Paper Roses	Jul 2015	#178
How can the star spangled banner yet wave o'er the land of the free...	iscooterliberally	Jul 2015	#179
But sitting doesn't change that.	Freelancer	Jul 2015	#233
No, sitting doesn't change anything.	iscooterliberally	Jul 2015	#237
I generally stand at attention	snpsmom	Jul 2015	#180
No. I was taught to do it during the pledge, then take it down when singing the anthem.	ancianita	Jul 2015	#184
No.	Boomerproud	Jul 2015	#186
true dat B	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#225
Yes. Yes indeed.	Glassunion	Jul 2015	#189
When Ice Cube sings	nilesobek	Jul 2015	#190
No, and can't remember when I stopped.	mountain grammy	Jul 2015	#192
Nope. If I say the pledge, and as an adult it's only been a couple of	brewens	Jul 2015	#203
Flag etiquette	Beartracks	Jul 2015	#204
No I don't. i stopped in 1968.	2banon	Jul 2015	#207
No I don't	IVoteDFL	Jul 2015	#212
Yes, and also during the Pledge.	ladyVet	Jul 2015	#221
No, I stand at attention	tularetom	Jul 2015	#228
No...	malokvale77	Jul 2015	#229
This message was self-deleted by its author	Freelancer	Jul 2015	#234
"And yes, if I knew you, I would think less of you from then on" is the	Laura PourMeADrink	Jul 2015	#236
This message was self-deleted by its author	Freelancer	Jul 2015	#238
Message auto-removed	Name removed	May 2016	#241
I can't remember the last time I attended anything where it was played.	tanyev	May 2016	#243
Surely surely if you live in Texas?? they have prayers before cake sales nt	Laura PourMeADrink	May 2016	#244

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