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ncjustice80

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111. The fact that they are slave owners, and when you commit open rebellion and commit human rights
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 07:00 PM
Jun 2015

atrocities, you don't get to keep the fruits of the labor of freed slaves. Or do you think we should have let former Nazies keep their gold?

About 70 years difference in time BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #1
Evidently not brutal enough. ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #58
Lincoln was dead Yupster Jun 2015 #67
Why didn't we just nuke everyting south of the mason-dixie line? GummyBearz Jun 2015 #68
On What Legal Basis RobinA Jun 2015 #102
The fact that they are slave owners, and when you commit open rebellion and commit human rights ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #111
We learned from mistakes? eShirl Jun 2015 #2
Agree ann--- Jun 2015 #3
"the south adopted"? former9thward Jun 2015 #4
No, they weren't ann--- Jun 2015 #13
Chicago is the most segregated city in the U.S. former9thward Jun 2015 #17
Not legally ann--- Jun 2015 #19
*The four days of the 1863 New York City Draft Riots, the largest civil insurrection appalachiablue Jun 2015 #53
What does that have to do with it? ann--- Jun 2015 #54
Legal slavery existed in all of the 13 original colonies, and after we became an independent country appalachiablue Jun 2015 #62
Thank you. Apparently that poster doesn't know much about US history. nt raccoon Jun 2015 #86
Quick note of interest Yupster Jun 2015 #69
I thought this was the south's best chance to win the war Yupster Jun 2015 #70
That's something I've never heard or considered. Even if the South had won Gettysburg, and thank appalachiablue Jun 2015 #73
The south wasn't going to win the war by occupying northern cities Yupster Jun 2015 #74
Road net at Gettysburg 1939 Jun 2015 #113
No doubt Longstreet's plan was dangerous Yupster Jun 2015 #114
If Gen Pickett had been successful in his charge, 1939 Jun 2015 #98
Lee's forces were extremely depleted and in no way could have carried on into PA and NY even appalachiablue Jun 2015 #100
You are correct Yupster Jun 2015 #107
You're right Yupster Jun 2015 #108
This is true, Dr. King called Chicago the most segregated city in the US. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #55
It seems that Detroit has that dubious distinction now Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #81
Absolutely. My grandfather was principal of an all black Chicago grammar school in the 1940's hedda_foil Jun 2015 #123
The fuck?!? Go pick up a book on the subject. X_Digger Jun 2015 #38
I did pick up a book - in school ann--- Jun 2015 #43
I guess DU's admin were all educated in the south also? uppityperson Jun 2015 #44
Then go back and read it again. You obviously missed a few pages. X_Digger Jun 2015 #48
Here's another clue ann--- Jun 2015 #56
Your refusal to read, and learn the truth will not serve you well in life. And we're being nice appalachiablue Jun 2015 #66
I don't have to look further than South Boston. X_Digger Jun 2015 #115
Black people like Sammy Davis Jr. the entertainer & singer Dorothy Dandridge couldn't stay in appalachiablue Jun 2015 #47
jim crow was the law of the land, including the north, east and west noiretextatique Jun 2015 #51
Who resisted the Civil Rights Movement? ann--- Jun 2015 #52
my point is: there was resistance all over this country noiretextatique Jun 2015 #75
True, ugly as it is. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #65
"There were not "separate" schools, restrooms, water fountains, seats a diner counters" BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #82
Google "sundown towns." Plenty of them were in states north of the Mason-Dixon lines. raccoon Jun 2015 #85
You seem really upset RandiFan1290 Jun 2015 #83
Pointing out that there was segregation in the North is being upset? former9thward Jun 2015 #97
Yes, it was only necessary that the South treat blacks no worse than the North. goldent Jun 2015 #7
sharecropping was arguably better for planters. Former slaves ended up OWING them money. yurbud Jun 2015 #23
Don't blame Lincoln. Blame Andrew Johnson, who did very little ProgressiveEconomist Jun 2015 #5
You know why malaise Jun 2015 #6
This country was build on the back of black slaves and the graves of Native Americans. Rex Jun 2015 #9
Not just Native American graves malaise Jun 2015 #16
Wall St (built by slaves)... HooptieWagon Jun 2015 #77
Indeed, the Atlantic Coast Slavocracy operated 300 years from New England to Brazil, making appalachiablue Jun 2015 #49
The world was a different place in 1863 and 1945. Rex Jun 2015 #8
At what point did the forced labor begin? It reach 20% of the German labor force HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #14
Actually the Nazis did want slaves. ananda Jun 2015 #20
Correct. Slavs considered inferior were to be worked as a Nazi slave underclass like serfs in appalachiablue Jun 2015 #45
Yes. And so the real Nazi part of WWII was fought in the Soviet Union. ananda Jun 2015 #46
Eastern Europe and Russia were to be 'cleared out' for Lebensraum, space for white appalachiablue Jun 2015 #50
The word "slave" comes from Slav NT 1939 Jun 2015 #99
Um.. Significant slave labor jberryhill Jun 2015 #31
The Nazis loved slavery and slave labor and made ample use of it davepc Jun 2015 #35
Umm.. yeah, slave labor in Nazi Germany.. it was a thing. X_Digger Jun 2015 #40
A lot of lives were lost on both sides of that war... kentuck Jun 2015 #10
Why is it we prosecuted their war criminals but not our own? PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #11
Germans weren't Americans. Yes, I know its obvious, but its relevant. aikoaiko Jun 2015 #12
and we did quietly recycle some of the nastiest Nazis. yurbud Jun 2015 #26
Yep. Project Paperclip. hifiguy Jun 2015 #33
For sure, between the laxness towards Nazis by Allies when Russia started becoming a threat, appalachiablue Jun 2015 #63
Confederates aren't Americans either.n/t ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #59
If you believe that then you legitimated their secession. aikoaiko Jun 2015 #95
Actually I just think they gave that up when they turned traitor. ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #109
They weren't from Europe so you couldn't send them back there. aikoaiko Jun 2015 #112
Eh, it';s where they originallyt came from, and I wouldn't want to dump toxic trash in Mexico. ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #118
An excellent book by Jay Winik, "April 1865: The Month that Saved America" . . . Journeyman Jun 2015 #15
I forgot one part of the World War II analogy: the Soviet Union yurbud Jun 2015 #25
And at the same time we needed them. Igel Jun 2015 #28
My straight up, walking in blind, off the top of my head answer is: To avoid Civil War II. Iggo Jun 2015 #18
It would be tough to have Civil War II if the leaders of the South were in prison or dead. yurbud Jun 2015 #117
Jerfferson Davis wanted his trial Yupster Jun 2015 #120
if the charge was treason, he was probably glad they didn't call his bluff. yurbud Jun 2015 #124
I don't think so Yupster Jun 2015 #129
Unenforceable. n/t moondust Jun 2015 #21
R#5 & K n/t UTUSN Jun 2015 #22
The First Amendment probably treestar Jun 2015 #24
because anyone with any power always says 'do as i say' HFRN Jun 2015 #27
Because the official war was to keep the union. Igel Jun 2015 #29
+1 Well said. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #71
The kkk did recover after Grant. they were huge by the 1910's and 20's. But to answer your question craigmatic Jun 2015 #30
The new KKK of the 1920's Yupster Jun 2015 #72
I've often wondered the same thing. hifiguy Jun 2015 #32
Absolutely agree. appalachiablue Jun 2015 #127
Jeff Davis wanted guerrilla warfare in 1865 1939 Jun 2015 #34
The horors of guerrilla warfare did fall on the sounterhn population post 1865. davepc Jun 2015 #36
Operation Paperclip. WinkyDink Jun 2015 #37
Would American blacks be better off today if a harsher policy had been followed? Jim Lane Jun 2015 #39
Can you imagine ann--- Jun 2015 #57
they have won the peace. yurbud Jun 2015 #61
I imagine kind of like Canada and the US Yupster Jun 2015 #78
So you let loose Sherman, burn every Confed city to the ground, and push the traitors into the sea. ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #60
It is assumed that most of the soldiers stationed in the South.... kentuck Jun 2015 #41
We Need Truth and Reconciliation TheOther95Percent Jun 2015 #42
Germany accepted that they lost Skittles Jun 2015 #64
There we go with that broad brush again. ladyVet Jun 2015 #121
I've lived in the south for 40 years Skittles Jun 2015 #128
The Civil War was fought "brother against brother" and the goal after the CW was to merrily Jun 2015 #76
The Fourteenth Amendment Yupster Jun 2015 #79
I will edit my post, but merrily Jun 2015 #80
You're thinking of voiding the Confederate debt as an amelioration for the south Yupster Jun 2015 #90
I'm thinking of what the 14th Amendment to which you directed my attention clearly says. merrily Jun 2015 #91
Sorry - just an old history teacher and textbook author Yupster Jun 2015 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Jun 2015 #93
You should consider putting the information in your posts here into a separate OP. There are many appalachiablue Jun 2015 #104
Radical reconstruction was pretty radical while it lasted -- MS had the first black Senator Recursion Jun 2015 #84
Mental masturbation. CK_John Jun 2015 #87
If Lincoln had been President until early 1869, as intended, LeftinOH Jun 2015 #88
I think you're right Yupster Jun 2015 #96
that is pretty cosy. Sort of like bin Laden being W's best man. yurbud Jun 2015 #103
Remember that all of these me served together for years in a very small army. oneshooter Jun 2015 #105
Germany was a very heavily paranoia situation JonLP24 Jun 2015 #89
We tried but after Grant the anti-reconstruction coalition won and undid those efforts. Warren Stupidity Jun 2015 #94
The immense tragedy of slavery and the Civil War ... earthside Jun 2015 #101
The analogy with the catastrophe of de-Baathisation in Iraq is just as sound. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #106
+1 nt riderinthestorm Jun 2015 #116
You can almost smell the vapors... kentuck Jun 2015 #110
Some change did happen but it was lost in the "Corrupt Bargain" of 1877. roamer65 Jun 2015 #119
Amazing how many nasty people in one thread can get put on ignore. nt ladyVet Jun 2015 #122
The need (by the Republicans to elect Hayes in 1876) ended 'radical' JCMach1 Jun 2015 #125
Projection. Orsino Jun 2015 #126
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