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DustyJoe

(849 posts)
61. No Lie
Tue Jun 23, 2015, 10:31 PM
Jun 2015

The need for a time machine to send all these that now state coulda, shoulda, woulda back 150 years and draft them into the side of their choice. They would have had the war won in a week.

Excellent point. I am always saying cant we please publicly shame them, but it needed to randys1 Jun 2015 #1
That would have made it so much better. Glassunion Jun 2015 #2
Well, had there been true land reform thucythucy Jun 2015 #44
Should we call it white privilege? brush Jun 2015 #92
Also forced sterilization GusBob Jun 2015 #3
No, I'd be against that bluestateguy Jun 2015 #6
Well, you can go pee on their graves. Throd Jun 2015 #4
Should have treated them like Germany and Japan after WWII Fumesucker Jun 2015 #5
I think the op was suggesting something more like Germany after the Great War. TheManInTheMac Jun 2015 #11
Actually I was kind of envisioning Carthage when I read the OP... Fumesucker Jun 2015 #16
No, more like World War II: thucythucy Jun 2015 #40
Well put. What James McPherson refers to as the "Second American Revolution" was only KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #95
Yup. Unconditional surrender. lovemydog Jun 2015 #72
There was a little of the OP's suggestions in how we treated Germany and Japan after WWII. backscatter712 Jun 2015 #110
That would have started a guerrilla war theycallmetrinity Jun 2015 #7
In a sense there already was a guerrilla war bluestateguy Jun 2015 #9
I won't disagree with that theycallmetrinity Jun 2015 #12
The U.S. Didn't just give up. CanadaexPat Jun 2015 #29
Worth reading up on. Here are some recs: eppur_se_muova Jun 2015 #97
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #43
The South/Confederacy surrendered npk Jun 2015 #8
If we (northen born) can't forgive and get over the war, how do we expect our (southern born) Nobel_Twaddle_III Jun 2015 #15
Same excuse was offered when Ford pardoned Nixon. old guy Jun 2015 #17
What would you like to have seen happen with Nixon ? Nobel_Twaddle_III Jun 2015 #20
Nixon was toast. old guy Jun 2015 #23
Ok, so Jail time? or Nobel_Twaddle_III Jun 2015 #28
Yes, jail time at the least. old guy Jun 2015 #34
yup, seams just backwards. Nobel_Twaddle_III Jun 2015 #38
Siegelman could have been pardoned in January 2009 1939 Jun 2015 #77
I have wondered about this. old guy Jun 2015 #101
In the enthusiasm of his first days in office 1939 Jun 2015 #112
There was no "treaty agreement." thucythucy Jun 2015 #45
Good Point. Shouldn't have said treaty npk Jun 2015 #49
To a great extent I agree. thucythucy Jun 2015 #59
The situation was a lot more complicated than you make it out to be Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #79
Actually, most of what passed for land reform thucythucy Jun 2015 #120
Is saying that the Grant administration was the most corrupt up to that time Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #127
Harping about the corruption of the Grant administration thucythucy Jun 2015 #129
To be technical 1939 Jun 2015 #76
No on lifetime disenfranchisement of all soldiers. bravenak Jun 2015 #10
I agree. thucythucy Jun 2015 #47
It's a vindictive, hate-based system. Igel Jun 2015 #48
Trying war criminals is not "genocide" thucythucy Jun 2015 #122
Do you also want to bulldoze confederate cemetaries? n/t oneshooter Jun 2015 #13
I wouldn't bulldoze them, but I'd revoke the veteran status Confederate soliders SpartanDem Jun 2015 #39
They are still veterans, honorably buried. oneshooter Jun 2015 #42
They receive benefits SpartanDem Jun 2015 #46
DIShonorably buried. n/t ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #116
Yes, I would. And turn them into dog parks. n/t ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #52
Grave desecration? Really? I would hope DUers would be above that. Coventina Jun 2015 #107
Apparently there are several DUers that would willingly bulldoze a Confederate oneshooter Jun 2015 #125
An argument I have made for years. hifiguy Jun 2015 #14
You mean kind of like the Washington government okasha Jun 2015 #30
The idea that Lincoln opposed the sort of meaningful social restructuring thucythucy Jun 2015 #53
You Can't RobinA Jun 2015 #83
Well they are making up for that now n2doc Jun 2015 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #22
Interestingly madville Jun 2015 #33
Texas and Florida are gaining because of Hispanics bluestateguy Jun 2015 #35
True. But the northern states do seem to lose electoral votes every yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #37
It isn't the taxes n2doc Jun 2015 #71
Texas does have somewhat high property taxes madville Jun 2015 #118
Lincoln's take on that, from his second inaugural address. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2015 #19
History has proven Lincoln wrong on that alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #26
what do you expect from a Republican 6chars Jun 2015 #32
Yup. Igel Jun 2015 #50
Punishments harden people into resisting. The South need a federal education system. nt NCjack Jun 2015 #21
We've let the white South be in denial that their ancestors were on the wrong side SpartanDem Jun 2015 #24
There is no "the South." Igel Jun 2015 #54
thank you!! n/t zazen Jun 2015 #80
Agreed...Davis should have been hung, probably Lee, too alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #25
What about Hirohito after WWII? onenote Jun 2015 #68
Hirohito was symbolic...Tojo was hung, as were numerous other military leaders alcibiades_mystery Jun 2015 #69
Lincoln wanted to keep the United States together, punishing the South would've driven a wedge NightWatcher Jun 2015 #27
The problem was the failed election of 1876. roamer65 Jun 2015 #31
Reconstruction failed. Igel Jun 2015 #62
un bel poème, ça, en bas Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #78
Thank You! RobinA Jun 2015 #85
This. And to think some here would see that resentment intensified. historylovr Jun 2015 #108
Agreed. If only they could have used the Allied example of 1918 as a template Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #36
LOL. linuxman Jun 2015 #41
No Lie DustyJoe Jun 2015 #61
lol! Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #74
You owe me a soda for that. ;) n/t X_Digger Jun 2015 #60
The post-WWII plan would have worked just fine. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #67
So you wanted a 2nd civil war? davidn3600 Jun 2015 #51
It's Never Too Late for Reparations. TheOther95Percent Jun 2015 #55
Absolutely. My ancestors were enslaved by the Holy Roman Empire. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #64
lol Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #73
Me, too MosheFeingold Jun 2015 #100
In that case, pogglethrope Jun 2015 #56
Indeed, this is why Lincoln is one of the histories greatest disappointments to me. ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #57
On What Basis RobinA Jun 2015 #87
Slavery is a gross human rights violation, and I'm sure they continued operation during the war. ncjustice80 Jun 2015 #117
Robert E. Lee 1939 Jun 2015 #88
Sadly, we did not "have them by the cajones" MosheFeingold Jun 2015 #121
Really??? seveneyes Jun 2015 #58
You have unintentionally showed a big reason why Lincoln was such a great man (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #63
Next maybe you'll give us your ideas about how every white person should be made to pay for their cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #65
Ah, but that's completely different. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #66
+1000. Nt Doctor Who Jun 2015 #70
+1000 Pooka Fey Jun 2015 #75
That's why we have a government. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #104
But those taxes should only be paid by white people, right? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #109
If you can figure out how to do it, fine. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #111
You sound like a Radical Republican Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #81
"Radical Republicans". That's a group that Americans need to learn more about. ladjf Jun 2015 #91
and some in the south are accused of still fighting the war DrDan Jun 2015 #82
While blacks were not elevated mostly because the north was also racist as fuck TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #84
The freed slaves should have been given 40 acres and a mule. But they weren't. Why? Because the raccoon Jun 2015 #86
I think a lot of the rebel army was conscripted. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2015 #89
A trial of Davis 1939 Jun 2015 #93
Sounds like you've been reading General Sherman's letters. ladjf Jun 2015 #90
Within fiftteen years after 1865 1939 Jun 2015 #94
...not to mention huge amounts of Southern land passed into then hands of Northerner's ownership. ladjf Jun 2015 #96
On the other hand MosheFeingold Jun 2015 #98
These OPs are getting dumber and dumber snooper2 Jun 2015 #99
And some say the SOUTH never got over the Civil War B2G Jun 2015 #106
I say we start punishing them now. ileus Jun 2015 #102
It's the WEATHER! Northern refugee here, seeking to move from Illinois to Maryland. raging moderate Jun 2015 #103
Ah glad to see someone who is smarter than upaloopa Jun 2015 #105
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The problem was the Lincoln Assassination. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #114
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Everyone who fought that war is long dead. Those who made it to the 1913 Gettysburg reunion struggle4progress Jun 2015 #119
Last night down by the grave ... seveneyes Jun 2015 #124
What to do for atonement DustyJoe Jun 2015 #126
I'm afraid I think that's nonsense. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2015 #128
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