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Vinca

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79. It's not going to happen. It's wishful thinking.

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:19 PM

Jun 2015

I might as well dream big since even small steps never happen. We're like hamsters on a wheel going around and around. There's a shooting, we cry, then we yell, then we demonstrate, then we call our legislators, then time passes. Nothing happens. And nothing happens. And then there's another shooting. We cry . . .

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So how the hell are we supposed to know? [View all] Atman Jun 2015 OP

K&R..... daleanime Jun 2015 #1

The gun fanciers would have thrown fit if someone had asked him to leave because Hoyt Jun 2015 #2

No they wouldn't and you it because the gungeon endorses respecting private property rights. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #7

Yeah, gungeoneers have supported shooting a kid rummaging through a trash can on gunner's property Hoyt Jun 2015 #14

Changing subjects because you can't back up your rhetoric with facts. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #16

Why don't you gunners just go the fuck away for a while HERVEPA Jun 2015 #54

Because you don't like what we have to say? eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #56

Yes. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #57

Tough. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #58

Because you just want your fucking guns and have zero empathy or common sense HERVEPA Jun 2015 #61

The same can be said of your comrades on this issue. GGJohn Jun 2015 #64

So what's to be done with the heaven05 Jun 2015 #78

That's a tough one, being a racist is not illegal, GGJohn Jun 2015 #80

if their parents and heaven05 Jun 2015 #82

Thank you for the reasoned and thoughtful reply, GGJohn Jun 2015 #83

No facts for the rhetoric so you have nothing left but to hopefully bully others. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #70

+1000. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #81

No. Property rights are paramount hack89 Jun 2015 #12

Yeah, right. Hoyt Jun 2015 #15

Here you go. RKBA advocates siding with property owners -- Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2015 #84

Yeap, make it easier to kill people with guns is what they're doing with these laws uponit7771 Jun 2015 #3

Ok, let's pretend you're in this church. jeff47 Jun 2015 #8

+1 G_j Jun 2015 #13

+Brazilian Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #19

+1 : Perhaps if you're wearing body armor and are trained for instant response erronis Jun 2015 #23

John Hinckley Jr. demonstrates that trained for instant response isn't even enough. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #37

+a zillion truebluegreen Jun 2015 #59

I feel my right is to be able to come and go madokie Jun 2015 #4

People should keep their guns at home Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #20

Fetishism madokie Jun 2015 #30

They have action-movie-inspired or video-game-inspired fantasies where they save the day. jeff47 Jun 2015 #5

Silly, Atman. If they're white, you're safe. If they're black, police will shoot them on sight. arcane1 Jun 2015 #6

Actually he DOESN'T have the right to carry... brooklynite Jun 2015 #9

Not to mention - I doubt he was concerned with the laws much regardless. /nt TampaAnimusVortex Jun 2015 #36

in an syg state open carry people can be shot out of fear for safety Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #10

This may be helpful to some... Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #24

That's pure unadulterated bullshit. GGJohn Jun 2015 #48

im sure we'll get the chance to find out if that's true Romeo.lima333 Jun 2015 #49

Maybe you should study up on the requirements for a successful SYG defense GGJohn Jun 2015 #50

The church could have asked him to leave. Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #11

Maybe they feel he's someone looking for help. Hoyt Jun 2015 #18

Ask him to leave? Remember he's there for a purpose. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #26

I thought the SC law permitted him to carry in a church. Ilsa Jun 2015 #32

No. Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #34

No. Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #35

How would anyone know if someone was illegally concealing a weapon until it was too late? pnwmom Jun 2015 #42

Here's the thing, GGJohn Jun 2015 #51

He wasn't open-carrying. There's security camera footage of him entering the church. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2015 #38

They may not have known he had a gun...I noticed a squarish fannypack one him in the pic Lars39 Jun 2015 #39

It's only a matter of time kcr Jun 2015 #73

Send a note to Governor Nikki malaise Jun 2015 #17

Fuck open carry. And fuck concealed carry. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #21

I don't agree with you on much, Nye, but on this, you are absolutely 100% correct. KitSileya Jun 2015 #47

Hmmm. GGJohn Jun 2015 #52

You been under a rock? President Obama isn't a progressive. truebluegreen Jun 2015 #63

He isn't a progressive, and neither are you. KitSileya Jun 2015 #68

Progressives also care about rights, GGJohn Jun 2015 #69

Bullshit. KitSileya Jun 2015 #71

I disagree about the 2A as do the majority of your fellow Americans. GGJohn Jun 2015 #74

You do that. KitSileya Jun 2015 #76

^^ Almost PERFECT. Atman Jun 2015 #77

... GGJohn Jun 2015 #53

Yes. a load of excrement HERVEPA Jun 2015 #55

Are we agreeing again? GGJohn Jun 2015 #60

Please re-ask question in English language HERVEPA Jun 2015 #62

Fixed. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #65

a country with a gun on every streetcorner isn't saving itself from a police state, MisterP Jun 2015 #22

Anyone that needs to parade around openly carrying their weapons has issues. hobbit709 Jun 2015 #25

"Normal" people have consideration of other people and the way they affect them. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #27

Like I said "issues" hobbit709 Jun 2015 #28

Issues is a nice term. Elmer S. E. Dump Jun 2015 #40

Yesterday talked with a couple that lives in Atlanta... SoapBox Jun 2015 #29

Considering there has never been a shooting at Hartsfield-Jackson Int'l airport Calista241 Jun 2015 #46

Ammosexual whore legislators don't give a shit about us in Ammomerica. nt valerief Jun 2015 #31

Too bad so many of the pro gun types don't even like to hear questions. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jun 2015 #41

Pathological society Fairgo Jun 2015 #43

^^ Great post! Atman Jun 2015 #45

^this^ truebluegreen Jun 2015 #66

Concealed, open . . . does it matter? Vinca Jun 2015 #44

And how is that going to happen? yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #75

It's not going to happen. It's wishful thinking. Vinca Jun 2015 #79

We're not supposed to know, and that's part of the fun for these gun humpers. Sheldon Cooper Jun 2015 #67

what law or surveillance would stop illegal concealed carry? alc Jun 2015 #72