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grahamhgreen

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110. Should we be at war with Saudi Arabia to prevent

Reply to randome (Reply #100)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 05:34 PM

Jun 2015

their beheading and enslavement?

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Why is obama continuing Bush's Iraq war debacle? I voted for him to end that war. He lied. [View all] grahamhgreen Jun 2015 OP

I don't get it either. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #1

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He found his "comfortable walking shoes..er...boots". Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #3

Obama is hopelessly conventional. He can't think outside of the box. Vattel Jun 2015 #4

I'd settle for him thinking inside the box nichomachus Jun 2015 #7

You know, that is the most apt description of Obama that I have ever read. Nay Jun 2015 #38

I gave up on Obama being any different cwydro Jun 2015 #5

I never really chose him as the candidate to support rock Jun 2015 #47

I did not know he was a ballet dancer. cui bono Jun 2015 #60

LOL. rock Jun 2015 #75

People here said upon entry into Iraq that it would destabilize the region for decades. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #6

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I don't think he is misunderstood. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #10

Read Bertram Gross, Friendly Fascism davekriss Jun 2015 #76

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Yea, what ever. mindem Jun 2015 #84

You, my friend, are obviously too young tiredtoo Jun 2015 #91

Money. It trumps peace. Octafish Jun 2015 #8

^^^THAT^^^ onecaliberal Jun 2015 #58

''Money trumps peace.'' -- pretzeldent George W Bush, Feb. 14, 2007 Octafish Jun 2015 #92

Oy! Sucks to be us. We're about to elect another corporatist. onecaliberal Jun 2015 #93

he found being president is is complicated Backwoodsrider Jun 2015 #11

Reports about Clinton point to a far more aggressive military policy. jeff47 Jun 2015 #14

It's not really about Obama, or even Bush for that matter Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #12

He was handed an unwinnable situation by the morons who started it. jeff47 Jun 2015 #13

From what I've read, ISIS is a coalition of the Baathists and Islamic radicals. They are not grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #15

The hope was a new Sunni group would dry up their support jeff47 Jun 2015 #16

I've read that ISIS is a combination of Extemists and Baathists. What I see, if we leave, is that grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #25

So if you understand all of this, why are you blaming and condemning Obama? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2015 #32

Because Obama promised to end the war in Iraq Unknown Beatle Jun 2015 #43

Iraq is a quagmire of flypaper. kairos12 Jun 2015 #31

Read Micheal Glennon's "NAtional Security and Double Government" hifiguy Jun 2015 #17

I think he got a little talking to right before he was sworn in. rurallib Jun 2015 #21

Democratic presidents always get "The Talk" after they win an election hifiguy Jun 2015 #24

Or even before he was elected. zeemike Jun 2015 #46

I remember the very night he was sworn in he did a drone strike...always grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #95

There's no way we were going to watch all of Iraq fall to ISIS without at least trying to TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #18

Yep. I agree. Nt stevenleser Jun 2015 #19

got to think if they had no oil we'd be out of there in a heartbeat. rurallib Jun 2015 #22

I honestly don't think that's it (this time). We actually have plenty of oil now, anyway. TwilightGardener Jun 2015 #23

Who is we...that is the question. zeemike Jun 2015 #48

It's not even 'we' now. It's 'they', the transnational corporations. cui bono Jun 2015 #61

Or an it. zeemike Jun 2015 #70

It's not really falling to ISIS, this group is the old Iraq military mixed with Sunni extremists, so grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #27

the country is made up of more than Saddam's military and Sunni extremists JI7 Jun 2015 #30

The US does not need to fight this war LiberalLovinLug Jun 2015 #42

He isn't continuing it. Obama has started a new Iraw war debacle. morningfog Jun 2015 #20

It's the same in that we are still fighting the Baathists, who have been rebranded by the media as grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #26

You are completely wrong. Bush signed the piece of giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #29

I am not wrong. All troops were removed as of Nov. 2011. morningfog Jun 2015 #37

Yes & that is because of the piece of shit SOFA that giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #62

We should never have gone in the first place. bvar22 Jun 2015 #102

As I said in my first reply, we never should have gone. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #103

Oh, I follow your pedestrian thinking easily. bvar22 Jun 2015 #104

Obama tried to keep US forces in Iraq after the SOFA. OnyxCollie Jun 2015 #40

I'm curious MFrohike Jun 2015 #65

It would've never happened, not with their current court system. giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #87

Right MFrohike Jun 2015 #112

which was used to give Bush credit for ending the war treestar Jun 2015 #89

We always knew we would be back in there... giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #90

Does that mean you don't think ISIS should be stopped? BainsBane Jun 2015 #66

Obama's had us back in Iraq, with operations in Syria for a year, yet here we are escalating. morningfog Jun 2015 #80

True BainsBane Jun 2015 #81

Knock yourself out and don't forget to pay for it. TheKentuckian Jun 2015 #85

He's taking a lot of flack for "not having a strategy" Scootaloo Jun 2015 #79

He should have finished it by the end of his first term. AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #28

+ a brazilian. nt hifiguy Jun 2015 #33

word.. G_j Jun 2015 #34

He finished it soon upon taking office BainsBane Jun 2015 #67

Baloney. Leaving thousands of troops behind is not "ending it." AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #69

Let's hear your facts BainsBane Jun 2015 #72

Here are some facts for you BainsBane Jun 2015 #73

It was necessary for candidate Obama to distance himself from the hawkist Clinton. rhett o rick Jun 2015 #35

This isn't his first lie. Phlem Jun 2015 #36

"He lied." BeanMusical Jun 2015 #39

Are you talkin' about.... Plucketeer Jun 2015 #41

I don't think Obama, or any President for that matter has a choice. jalan48 Jun 2015 #44

He's the commander in chief, he can order the troops to come home. grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #45

Same reason we have Heritage Care, fracking, offshore drilling, charter schools, attacks on teachers Doctor_J Jun 2015 #49

Because he is free from having to run again and can let his let shine. nt raouldukelives Jun 2015 #50

The MIC has no morals and EVERY war is a win for them . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2015 #51

He CAN'T end the war. No one can. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2015 #52

how large is the whole world's military industrial complex ? olddots Jun 2015 #53

Yes...he's omnipotent, and he should do what a true god would do! Hulk Jun 2015 #54

Great reasons for peoples sons and daughters to die. grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #59

When I see posts like this one it makes glad again underthematrix Jun 2015 #78

Jingoistic nonsense. Maedhros Jun 2015 #86

Because he is owned by the military industrial complex Joe Turner Jun 2015 #55

Hope And Change - A Marvelous Thing - Sometimes cantbeserious Jun 2015 #56

Yes, he swindled us all. N/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #57

Its OPs like this that make the left appear rather stupid on narional security issues. JoePhilly Jun 2015 #63

Not the left BainsBane Jun 2015 #68

That's fair ... JoePhilly Jun 2015 #105

That isn't the worst of it BainsBane Jun 2015 #106

And they think as a candidate, he said he'd pull troops out of Afganistan, when ... JoePhilly Jun 2015 #109

"But here on DU ... any use of the military is equal to a full scale invasion." BainsBane Jun 2015 #111

I don't think this is the left, the OP's title is chunk full of sophistry uponit7771 Jun 2015 #107

He did end it. Essentially decided Iraq was done BainsBane Jun 2015 #64

Psst! Don't tell anyone! It'll stifle the outrage, DU's primary fuel source. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #74

Facts suck!!! /sarcasm <--- cause this is needed around here uponit7771 Jun 2015 #108

Clearly, you don't understand 12th dimensional chess. Fla_Democrat Jun 2015 #71

And the number of "trainers" is misleading. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #77

In Vietnam, after we were withdrew, the country stabilized and now is grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #97

True, And all the stories about "dominoes" guillaumeb Jun 2015 #98

I can only imagine a similar fate awaits Iraq one we withdraw. grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #99

Partisanship. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2015 #83

I thought we were responsible for the mess there? treestar Jun 2015 #88

I can't believe the amount of self-loathing I see in this thread. randome Jun 2015 #94

I loathe wars for profit. If the goal is to "degrade and destroy ISIL", as the president has said; grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #96

I, for one, don't give a shit about 'winning'. randome Jun 2015 #100

Should we be at war with Saudi Arabia to prevent grahamhgreen Jun 2015 #110

The cart was run into the ditch by Bush, and Bush was unable to secure the agreement needed Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #101