This is where we're going to disagree. (Reply #104)

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Fri Jun 5, 2015, 01:31 PM

104. This is where we're going to disagree.

The spoonerism he used is the equivalent. He knew that at the time which is evident in his choice of capitalization. Fine, that was a mistake, wrong, bad or whatever. Did it deserve the punishment? Most probably not unless there's more I'm not aware of, but the fact remains it's still what took place. The way you can deal with a situation such as that is you say something like, "I screwed up, and I'm sorry for that, but I think you overreacted in banning me." Hopefully a dialog can begin and they could work out the problem like adults.

It's not something we here can fix for him, and people posting he didn't say it really aren't helping him. Even though I understand their intentions are good.

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I'm going to toss this out there regarding NYC_SKIP. [View all]	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	OP
That's a really good point.	lovemydog	Jun 2015	#1
"One thread has already reached a thousand posts."	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	#9
LOL	lovemydog	Jun 2015	#14
You should have been here when HRC was running against BHO . . .	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#10
I was a lurker back then....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	#11
LOL	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#20
Vapors	lovemydog	Jun 2015	#27
Oh, my!	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#33
Bun B	lovemydog	Jun 2015	#37
Hugs!	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#40
Thank you	winterwar	Jun 2015	#49
Not only that	BeyondGeography	Jun 2015	#55
Ain't dat da troot!	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#116
Yeah, like women objecting to that word is somehow pearl clutching vapors...	CTyankee	Jun 2015	#78
Exactly!	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#115
Flash: "pearl clutching" is a misogynistic term!	Divernan	Jun 2015	#126
Misogynistic? "Ay-yi-yi," my grandma used to say, clutching her pearls.	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#134
Make mine a Blue Sapphire g&t w/ a twist of lime, please!	Divernan	Jun 2015	#144
Do not know about you but Hilary was horrible	akbacchus_BC	Jun 2015	#142
Don't let on that I told you, but . . .	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#143
All true, but NYC_SKP did not call Hillary anything.	JDPriestly	Jun 2015	#2
How many times have we heard of someone getting in trouble for forwarding a "joke"?	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	#3
I'm unaware of that.	JDPriestly	Jun 2015	#5
I read it. I believe he got caught up in the moment.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	#7
I finally saw the post...he did NOT use the word.	SoapBox	Jun 2015	#24
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jun 2015	#29
Ditto! I read it, and I agree with you.	man4allcats	Jun 2015	#43
+ 1	nenagh	Jun 2015	#59
I looked it up in the Urban Dictionary and what NYC Skip did write is identified as	CTyankee	Jun 2015	#62
He knew exactly what it was - there a link from years ago referencing it....and if that's not enough	bettyellen	Jun 2015	#69
People are still acting like it's nothing?	zappaman	Jun 2015	#75
Yeah, we have people saying it's similar to any mean word at all-	bettyellen	Jun 2015	#89
I honestly don't know why his defenders here take the tack that he didn't actually	CTyankee	Jun 2015	#76
Jebus...	joeybee12	Jun 2015	#87
Seriously, can we not do this line of arguing?	Scootaloo	Jun 2015	#8
It isn't evidence of anything. It's ambiguous, mysterious, hard to know exactly	JDPriestly	Jun 2015	#13
The banning went much too far.	stonecutter357	Jun 2015	#53
Question	Aerows	Jun 2015	#44
Point is, let's not pretend that what he said was some mystery, or unintentional	Scootaloo	Jun 2015	#50
The fact that he was a long time Du'er makes it worse.	Hatchling	Jun 2015	#118
Making a mistake	Aerows	Jun 2015	#120
your scary, creepy avatar has a certain misogynistic characteristic to me.	2banon	Jun 2015	#124
I think he was referring to "it" rather than "her" . . .	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#15
Agreed. Removing the post? Good. Banning NYC_SKP? Over the top.	JDPriestly	Jun 2015	#21
C'mon, you knew what he was talking about and so did everyone else.	CTyankee	Jun 2015	#77
I finally read the post after reading here that he had used the 'c' word. He did not, that loses	sabrina 1	Jun 2015	#86
....!	KoKo	Jun 2015	#93
Ageism, Or the myriad fat jokes I suffer every time Chris Christie makes headlines.	Ed Suspicious	Jun 2015	#129
Urban Dictionary?	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#114
At a glance it was meant as an insult.	herding cats	Jun 2015	#22
Removing the post would have been appropriate. Banning NYC_SKP was too extreme.	JDPriestly	Jun 2015	#25
That may well be true.	herding cats	Jun 2015	#28
What shoud he admit was wrong? He did not use the "c" word. He did not mention Hillary in his	JDPriestly	Jun 2015	#84
This is where we're going to disagree.	herding cats	Jun 2015	#104
If you look at the exchange between SKP and a troll...	Lizzie Poppet	Jun 2015	#106
Hillary wasn't the subject of the phrase, it was the stunt, whatever the hell the stunt is.	Ed Suspicious	Jun 2015	#130
Actually, it DID get hidden by a jury.	Lizzie Poppet	Jun 2015	#140
There are lots of ways to say what he said. I hope they won't all be banned.	JDPriestly	Jun 2015	#119
Adults should not have to have a list	okasha	Jun 2015	#131
But the point was that he didn't use any of those words.	JDPriestly	Jun 2015	#141
The word he use is the equvalent....abslutely no different than saying	Sheepshank	Jun 2015	#117
Forum hosts should be held to a higher standard as they reflect the site more than scum like me.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	#81
You're wrong. At 20k posts, you graduated from being scum to being riffraff. (n/t)	Jim Lane	Jun 2015	#136
It was just a jump to the left....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	#137
It was an excuse, not a reason.	Lizzie Poppet	Jun 2015	#105
+1	brer cat	Jun 2015	#52
Exactly. A draconian death penalty for a misunderstanding of a 7 year member...	99Forever	Jun 2015	#58
Thank you. Accuracy seems to be unimportant. I searched to try to find the 'offending post'	sabrina 1	Jun 2015	#63
Who NYC_SKP supported is irrelevant to the discussion, IMO.	peecoolyour	Jun 2015	#4
That's typical. Think of the times we've tied a republican staffer's actions to their boss.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	#6
NYC_SKP wasn't a member of Bernie's campaign.	delrem	Jun 2015	#12
It is extremely difficult to always use gender neutral words	Blue_In_AK	Jun 2015	#16
I think that's where the fault lies.	delrem	Jun 2015	#41
How true.	mnhtnbb	Jun 2015	#51
'A rose by anyother name would smell as sweet' means that the thing is what it is, no matter what	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2015	#61
Indeed.	mnhtnbb	Jun 2015	#73
If double standards are your concern, consider the fact that NYC_SKP stated that he felt those who	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2015	#112
And a skunk cabbage is a skunk cabbage is a skunk cabbage.	okasha	Jun 2015	#132
No it isn't hard to do that	dsc	Jun 2015	#74
"What contributors to DU say doesn't reflect directly back on specific politicians."	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	#17
I don't see it that way.	delrem	Jun 2015	#34
You have to admit that your conservatives have been harmed by our Tea Party.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	#66
No shite.. bet Bernie wouldn't want him.	Cha	Jun 2015	#19
Do you think Hillary wants you? nt	delrem	Jun 2015	#30
I don't have a candidate I'm commiting to yet.. I like all the candidates. are you excusing his	Cha	Jun 2015	#31
No, I asked you a simple question, that's all.	delrem	Jun 2015	#35
Good. I'm glad you're not excusing his misogynistic slur against Hillary because so many are and	Cha	Jun 2015	#36
Actually I don't see that, Cha.	delrem	Jun 2015	#38
doesn't matter.. I see it and I'm sick of it.	Cha	Jun 2015	#39
Is to call a politician "morally depraved" acceptable to you, then?	delrem	Jun 2015	#42
I've talked about that twice on this board and here it is again..	Cha	Jun 2015	#45
So you forgive yourself, in retrospect, and suffered no harm.	delrem	Jun 2015	#46
Oh get over yourself. People grow and learn.. I have nothing to forgive.	Cha	Jun 2015	#47
OK	delrem	Jun 2015	#48
She also called Hillary a liar in very plain, stark language.	DisgustipatedinCA	Jun 2015	#68
Politicians get called liars here all the time	treestar	Jun 2015	#96
Hey! We agree on something.	DisgustipatedinCA	Jun 2015	#99
False equivalency.	okasha	Jun 2015	#133
False argument since I didn't suggest "equivalence".	delrem	Jun 2015	#135
What you were trying to do	okasha	Jun 2015	#138
What are you trying to do?	delrem	Jun 2015	#139
Who wouldn't want Cha?	treestar	Jun 2015	#94
Excellent point, Spitfire.	Cha	Jun 2015	#18
K & R	SunSeeker	Jun 2015	#23
Watch your step if you want to say any thing negative about HRC.	SoapBox	Jun 2015	#26
A misogynistic slur is "negative"? there have been tons of negative things said about Hillary and	Cha	Jun 2015	#32
Someone tried to tell me the word "tool" was worse, lol...	bettyellen	Jun 2015	#70
I saw that little exchange.. it was all I could do not to enter the fray. lol	Cha	Jun 2015	#113
how about- watch your step if you want to use a slur about a Democrat nominee for POTUS?	KittyWampus	Jun 2015	#54
Everyone needs to watch their step w/r/t bigoted language. nt	geek tragedy	Jun 2015	#56
There are hundreds - maybe thousands - of negative posts about her every week.	Codeine	Jun 2015	#57
There are many negative posts about Hillary and a few posters who make such posts regularly	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2015	#64
Yeah, excepting him. funny how that works isn't it?	CTyankee	Jun 2015	#65
I hope that's not the lesson you got from this.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	#80
Silly because plenty of negative things	treestar	Jun 2015	#97
A very excellent point. Bernie's campaign is in part about changing the way we campaign and run	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2015	#60
Yes Bernie would have fired that person, and had Skip not been banned he would have been	Autumn	Jun 2015	#67
Wow	madfloridian	Jun 2015	#82
Yes, I have unsubscribed as well. I am still trying to decide what lesson is to be learned from	Hiraeth	Jun 2015	#90
Autumn, Did You See This? The Exact Exchange---including Reply to Banned Poster	KoKo	Jun 2015	#101
That's sheer speculation.	closeupready	Jun 2015	#71
Yes and, if a member of Hillary's campaign had implied that Bernie was a racist I would expect the	Hiraeth	Jun 2015	#72
There is a difference between a coordinated effort to smear and a cheap shot.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	#79
I agree the OP about Bernie was a cheap shot. What I find hard to understand is why	Hiraeth	Jun 2015	#83
The cheap shot was a one off slur against Hillary....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jun 2015	#85
From my understanding of what transpired, NYC_SKP was replying to a troll who had also	Hiraeth	Jun 2015	#88
^^^That is it^^^	-none	Jun 2015	#91
Though the idea Bernie is a racist was never said	treestar	Jun 2015	#98
The implication of the total OP, including the pictures chosen, was very clear.	Hiraeth	Jun 2015	#103
The thousand threads were launched over the ambiguity over what NYC_SKP said	daredtowork	Jun 2015	#92
Respectfully, totally and emphatically disagree	Hiraeth	Jun 2015	#95
I respect your respectful disagreement	daredtowork	Jun 2015	#100
Yes, I did. Did you read the post to which he was replying?	Hiraeth	Jun 2015	#102
Unless I missed something, wasn't he just set up by the word "cunning"?	daredtowork	Jun 2015	#107
I do not think Skip was an MRA. In fact, I find him to be quite the opposite. Please refer to:	Hiraeth	Jun 2015	#108
No Skip was not an MRA	daredtowork	Jun 2015	#109
Actually, given the action taken by the Admin, it will now be much easier to ban anyone	Hiraeth	Jun 2015	#110
IMHO, it was EarlG's wording that was poor	daredtowork	Jun 2015	#111
Then it is "kinda" like a poor choice of pictures for that OP and you know a picture is worth	Hiraeth	Jun 2015	#146
It wasn't Cunning Stunt	daredtowork	Jun 2015	#148
Yes I read the whole thing. Thing is I know nothing of this	Hiraeth	Jun 2015	#149
Kinda like a "thoughtcrime" --->	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#122
No Kinda about it. it wAs a Thought Crime n/t	2banon	Jun 2015	#125
Oops! Must remember the Ministry of Love might be watching and . . .	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#127
Thanks for the reminder. Been a long time since I read 1984.. (high school back in the 60's.)	2banon	Jun 2015	#147
Is it just me, or are things getting a bit Orwellian around here?	Divernan	Jun 2015	#145
Immaterial	Aerows	Jun 2015	#121
Hear! Here!	2banon	Jun 2015	#123
After reading all the comments above, the word for today isn't in the Urban Dictionary---I looked.	Petrushka	Jun 2015	#128

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