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86. Sanders voted for the bill she was advocating for

Reply to cali (Reply #74)

Sun May 31, 2015, 09:43 AM

May 2015

I guess they both evolved?

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“We need more police, we need more and tougher prison sentences ..." [View all] Scuba May 2015 OP

One of the problems with being a corporatist trying to run a government; Half-Century Man May 2015 #1

In for-profit prisons, prison labor is a revenue stream, prisoner education is not. HereSince1628 May 2015 #22

Same as in many state-run prisons. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #26

One of the problems with being in the public eye for decades is.... George II May 2015 #95

Um, 21 Years? Give or Take? Thor_MN May 2015 #2

Has her stance changed? nt Logical May 2015 #10

bill's has. mopinko May 2015 #13

Don't know. If you want to make a claim, find a more recent quote. Thor_MN May 2015 #32

Yes technology advancements and political opinions are the same thing. Nice try. nt Logical May 2015 #36

The original post is disingenuous. Digging up a two decade old quote against a recent interview. Thor_MN May 2015 #40

Perhaps you can provide some evidence that HRC's opinion.. 99Forever May 2015 #14

Perhaps we could avoid comparing something from over 2 decades ago to something said last week? Thor_MN May 2015 #28

Maybe YOU should look up a more recent quote that makes YOUR point. 99Forever May 2015 #38

I have made no such point. Thor_MN May 2015 #41

No. 99Forever May 2015 #43

So you concede your point? Thor_MN May 2015 #45

I concede that you failed to make your sale. 99Forever May 2015 #46

No, you refuse to back your claim. Thor_MN May 2015 #48

She recently stated we should end mass incarceration Recursion May 2015 #62

Thank you. 99Forever May 2015 #66

Sorry, that was needlessly snarky. It was all over DU last week Recursion May 2015 #67

Accepted, gladly. 99Forever May 2015 #71

Glad I could help. Also, Sanders voted for the bill she was advocating for in the quote Recursion May 2015 #77

it's been done already in this discussion George II May 2015 #87

It was as wrong then as it is now. morningfog May 2015 #30

I agree, it is embarrasingly inane to contend that a 21 year old quote is comparible with a recent Thor_MN May 2015 #33

Particularly when Sanders voted in the House for the bill she was pushing in the quote (nt) Recursion May 2015 #81

Better yet: she was advocating a bill Sanders voted for (the Assault Weapons Ban) Recursion May 2015 #75

Hell, we need sentences for first time bank$ter/donor offenders. Perhaps the FBI ought to busy jtuck004 May 2015 #3

Prison Pipeline CTBlueboy May 2015 #4

Welcome to DU cyberswede May 2015 #20

Hillary has been more of a politician than her supporters like to admit. She has a lot of.... marble falls May 2015 #5

Well then, at least on this issue you can say the same thing about Sanders. George II May 2015 #91

she's "evolved" on this, just like healthcare and gay marriage Doctor_J May 2015 #6

Sanders voted for the bill she was advocating for in this quote, the Assault Weapons Ban Recursion May 2015 #80

I guess Sanders has, too, on this issue - he AGREED with Clinton 21 years ago! George II May 2015 #92

“We need more police...." ha ha, 1994. current thinking, two decades later? seabeyond May 2015 #7

Crime was huge in the 90s. Homicide rates coming off the crack epidemic. JaneyVee May 2015 #8

Yep another successful CIA program hootinholler May 2015 #12

Reyes, but there were many who believed that cali May 2015 #69

I'll just focus on the second quote.... daleanime May 2015 #9

Anyone have any idea of Sanders' position on this issue back in 1994? George II May 2015 #16

He agreed with Clinton enough to vote for the bill she was pushing for Recursion May 2015 #82

Aha! So some obscure quote of Clinton from 20 years ago.... George II May 2015 #90

All these hit pieces on Hillary Clinton are not going to bring your candidate closer to victory. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #11

Hillary's own words are now "hit pieces"? Fumesucker May 2015 #42

I don't even read them any more... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #44

My goal is to discuss things I happen to be interested in Fumesucker May 2015 #47

OMG ...How dare people post quotes from Hillary! L0oniX May 2015 #54

All these hit pieces on Hillary Clinton are not going to bring your candidate closer to victory. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #64

they might bring your candidate closer to defeat cali May 2015 #72

I don't believe I have every said she was my idol since I was ten. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #76

Speaking of hit pieces ...here's one of the worst to hit DU from your side of the beltway. L0oniX May 2015 #88

I would say the same thing about the post you cited DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #89

Your point? Have you ever changed you opinion about anything? For that matter.... George II May 2015 #15

Has Hillary changed her position on this? Please provide a link. I'll be glad to revise/delete. Scuba May 2015 #17

She addressed criminal justice reform in her keynote address.... George II May 2015 #25

In a president, I value the ability to be a forward thinker morningfog May 2015 #31

Hillary has changed some ideas, but does Sanders advocate letting "violent criminals" loose??? Sancho May 2015 #18

No one advocated letting violent criminals out of prison. But by saying we needed "more prisons" .. Scuba May 2015 #24

Then you have been in a cave... Sancho May 2015 #27

Overcrowded due to way too many locked away for bullshit. TheKentuckian May 2015 #34

That's the history that we all know.... Sancho May 2015 #35

"evolving" on yet another issue cali May 2015 #74

Sanders voted for the bill she was advocating for Recursion May 2015 #86

"Hillary clearly wasn't advocating for releasing non-violent, victimless prisoners, now was she? " NYC Liberal May 2015 #57

Miss Cleo is ripping you off. Try a better source. Maybe buy your own set of Tarot cards. L0oniX May 2015 #56

I doubt Sanders was referring to 'violent offenders' bigtree May 2015 #19

Why do you think Hillary said we needed "more prisons" when she could have advocated .. Scuba May 2015 #23

Gotta love that hide thread feature MohRokTah May 2015 #21

Can't wait for her pro Iraq war vote to also be 21 years ago so it won't mean anything. L0oniX May 2015 #55

Women don't have to base their opinions on those of their husbands. I assume that was sabrina 1 May 2015 #60

we have become what we feared during the cold war olddots May 2015 #29

The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants. Albert Camus Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #37

I have no problem with violent criminals being locked in prison. NaturalHigh May 2015 #39

I agree. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #50

You said it better than I did. NaturalHigh May 2015 #51

Agreed. bravenak May 2015 #63

She's gonna need to address things like the drug war and marijuana legalization. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #49

Just playing Devil's Advocate here ... NanceGreggs May 2015 #52

I knew this OP was about Hillary before I came in here. No Miss Cleo needed. L0oniX May 2015 #53

I have to agree that using a quote from 1994 is not fair nor a valid comparison. cui bono May 2015 #58

And, in the intervening decades, we got both of them, and the crime rate plummeted Recursion May 2015 #59

The problem is the crime rate plummeted in the same time frame in other nations Fumesucker May 2015 #68

That's a very good point Recursion May 2015 #70

More incarceration inevitably leads to more crime and more sophisticated criminals Fumesucker May 2015 #78

Which is why I, like you, and Sanders, and Clinton, want to end mass incarceration Recursion May 2015 #79

I looked up my own words on DU and found I was talking about this in 2008 Fumesucker May 2015 #83

What's her current position? She changed on marriage equality, after all eridani May 2015 #61

you have to admit, she changes her opinions on issues to fit the cali May 2015 #65

Sanders voted for the bill that Clinton was advocating in this quote Recursion May 2015 #84

Bernie Sanders doesn't? For that matter, EVERYONE changes positions from time to time. George II May 2015 #94

BTW the bill she was advocating in that speech is more widely known as the "Assault Weapons Ban" Recursion May 2015 #73

I never saw prison to be much helpful of anything JonLP24 May 2015 #85

You are very correct. MindPilot May 2015 #93