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46. You and Hillary against the right to education and healthcare? We have to get that on our own?

Sat May 23, 2015, 01:15 PM

May 2015

And if we elect her she'll help to make that opportunity available to everyone???

Like, get government out of the way? Enable people to lift themselves up by their bootstraps?

OH, man, you'll never live this down on this board.

Hillary vs Bernie re: supporter point of view

Hillary supporter, I was born into this world, I need to help make opportunity available to everyone so that we all have an equal chance at success.

Bernie supporter, I was born into this world I have a right to food shelter clothing education and healthcare. Someone needs to provide it for me.

That's just some sick shit, there.

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Hillary vs Bernie re: supporter point of view [View all] upaloopa May 2015 OP

Sounds Like A Republican Vs Liberal Perspective To These Eyes And Ears cantbeserious May 2015 #1

They've morphed into them, bad memories and blurry vision . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #5

They don't even try to hide it anymore AgingAmerican May 2015 #42

Absolutely agree. Back before raygun many of us got free educations and what happened there is jwirr May 2015 #197

+1 daleanime May 2015 #176

You sound like a repuke. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #2

Sound like someone who is willing to work hard to me. leftofcool May 2015 #9

I work hard PowerToThePeople May 2015 #18

So did I until I retired leftofcool May 2015 #24

"And you and I both know that the rich will never be taxed for it " PowerToThePeople May 2015 #26

And Bernie will not tax the rich because he won't get elected to do it... brooklynite May 2015 #36

He wouldn't be able to even if he got elected. leftofcool May 2015 #39

Defeatism: an attitude of accepting, expecting, or being resigned to defeat AgingAmerican May 2015 #52

And you both may be right about that - but I have a hard time understanding the glee that so jwirr May 2015 #71

Where do you see glee? leftofcool May 2015 #81

What I hear you saying is Bernie is somehow wrong about this need. But I also hear your jwirr May 2015 #91

We are more in agreement that you think. leftofcool May 2015 #93

LOL - thanks. jwirr May 2015 #97

So does the rich. Why are you afraid of taxing them? eloydude May 2015 #127

And you know this how? Your posts are always a real trip. nt Hekate May 2015 #136

Wall Street Dems are desperate to silence Bernie AgingAmerican May 2015 #44

How is he being "silenced"? brooklynite May 2015 #55

They do this by having corporate media ignore Bernie Sanders AgingAmerican May 2015 #59

Hasn't he been on tons of talk shows lately? leftofcool May 2015 #82

He has been on a few shows AgingAmerican May 2015 #87

Name a candidate who HAS been included in policy discussions brooklynite May 2015 #118

They aren't running for the Democratic nomination AgingAmerican May 2015 #125

Okay - what coverage has Hillary gotten that Bernie hasn't? brooklynite May 2015 #142

Are you serious? AgingAmerican May 2015 #162

Wall Street Journal doesn't like Hillary at all. No way no how. You should try reading it. nt Hekate May 2015 #137

Wall Street Journal is just a newspaper AgingAmerican May 2015 #139

Oh yes, Bernie will be elected as your next President of the United States eloydude May 2015 #126

And I get that leftofcool May 2015 #37

House will be up for election multiple times while he is President. n/t PowerToThePeople May 2015 #43

Yes, and think Gerrymandering. leftofcool May 2015 #54

Defeatism AgingAmerican May 2015 #95

I do not see why you are all so upset about a free education. Education has and always will be an jwirr May 2015 #67

No problem with a free education leftofcool May 2015 #73

I agree but that is hardly the fault of either Bernie or Hillary. That is our fault that we have jwirr May 2015 #85

Exactly! leftofcool May 2015 #88

They do not have enough money for food for their children. There have always been people who did jwirr May 2015 #96

If the rich won't pay taxes, we can simply expropriate their wealth. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2015 #92

Rich people don't keep money where you can expropriate it. leftofcool May 2015 #98

I understand where you're coming from, but do note I said "expropriate their KingCharlemagne May 2015 #103

No kidding! Send me to Malibu when I am ready for assisted living! leftofcool May 2015 #108

I'm down with this plan. bravenak May 2015 #149

Sounds like an average voter treestar May 2015 #178

My over - simplistic definition orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #3

What has Bernie "done" MaggieD May 2015 #17

Your post 12:44 this post 12:39, your not reading, here orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #51

Again, what has he "done" MaggieD May 2015 #65

And NO ONE will elect Hillary because of what she's orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #83

So you won't vote for her if nominated? MaggieD May 2015 #84

No it's not, I'm saying I would hate to . And will orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #90

Good for you MaggieD May 2015 #94

Too "far left" and doesn't "do anything"? How about the Fed audit?! cascadiance May 2015 #182

Well Put !!!!! orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #188

Also this is how you tell what a person has done and is doing, the longest orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #57

Unless it's HRC apparently MaggieD May 2015 #148

And Hillary CAN? arcane1 May 2015 #112

Some things always come around again. Autumn May 2015 #138

Absolutely MaggieD May 2015 #145

You provided some form of health care, right? And as I understand it you cali May 2015 #143

I do - not now MaggieD May 2015 #144

I know you haven't the slightest clue as to the difference between opinion and fact cali May 2015 #165

Agreed, look at ALL of your posts . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #166

Well let's fact check me then..... MaggieD May 2015 #170

Her husband was president, she wasn't " Instrumental " in orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #167

That's just not true MaggieD May 2015 #169

This message was self-deleted by its author orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #174

Bingo! Why would anyone believe HRC is now a populist? DLC/Corporatist/3rdwayer is her history peacebird May 2015 #177

Hillary: Nevermind that I will owe favors to every billionaire who has funded my campaign onecaliberal May 2015 #183

beyond puerile and ridiculous. cali May 2015 #4

+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #7

Roger That - Many Real Democrats See HRC For What She Is - A Patron Of The Oligarchs cantbeserious May 2015 #8

Leaving HRC out of it; I am utterly sure that most DUers whoever they support cali May 2015 #20

Noble Sentiment - This One Witnesses The Clinton's Activities Of Patronage For The Oligarchs cantbeserious May 2015 #48

So you're a hit and run flamebait poster. That's contemptible cali May 2015 #66

That Is A Contemptible Post Coming From You cantbeserious May 2015 #69

Exactly !!!!!!!!! orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #32

They aren't enough to elect a President though treestar May 2015 #179

HRC Is Beholden To Wall Street - Wall Street Is Beholden To Oligarchs cantbeserious May 2015 #184

Just keep repeating that meaningless trope treestar May 2015 #191

Pointing Out Facts As A Voter - Has Meaining For Some cantbeserious May 2015 #195

Agree. I would add that a better society would better fuel a healthy economy. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #29

I want the people who do the work to reap the benefits of their work, not the global 1%, who KingCharlemagne May 2015 #100

In fairness cali May 2015 #119

Your post makes me a little sad as it evokes my own father somewhat. You seem to have KingCharlemagne May 2015 #122

thank you for those very kind words. cali May 2015 #130

I think we had the same father, except mine was a lawyer. Exilednight May 2015 #135

brother (or sister) from another father. cali May 2015 #140

Have you ever thought of volunteering? MaggieD May 2015 #150

You're silly. Alittleliberal May 2015 #155

You know I'm disabled and cali May 2015 #164

There are still things you could do.... MaggieD May 2015 #168

Is that you Bill Frist? cali May 2015 #171

No it's just me MaggieD May 2015 #172

"Makers not Takers"? Sounds familiar. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #6

Republican Lite . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #14

Sanders vs Clinton on Womens' Rights, LGBT Rights, Civil Rights: NYC_SKP May 2015 #10

+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #16

You're welcome, orpupilofnature57! There's more to come! NYC_SKP May 2015 #30

Yep . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #34

No. Starry Messenger May 2015 #11

So, I'm interpreting, LWolf May 2015 #12

What opportunities are Hillary supporters making available? CharlotteVale May 2015 #13

Plenty of opportunities, provided by Ms Clinton - truedelphi May 2015 #114

Yep, and I suspect the other "opportunities" CharlotteVale May 2015 #121

You don't speak for me and those rights you listed most sufrommich May 2015 #15

I don't believe most other Hillary supporters would agree with the OP either. m-lekktor May 2015 #45

Actually, we believe this: leftofcool May 2015 #61

I guess a couple of them do. Starry Messenger May 2015 #77

That's too close to the "Wellfare queen" mantra for comfort. Gregorian May 2015 #19

I don't see a difference, actually. NYC_SKP May 2015 #25

there isn't. it's a flat out Ronald Reagon supporter comment. m-lekktor May 2015 #47

Try this: HRC supporters are okay with having corporations run "our" govt... polichick May 2015 #21

...^ that 840high May 2015 #157

“The True Measure of Any Society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members” – Gandhi Jackpine Radical May 2015 #22

Your formulation DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #23

This is awesome. How to win friends and influence people. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #27

Then you need to change your avatar. Unless your support that free market thing you're talkin bout. NYC_SKP May 2015 #28

That is not at all what I said upaloopa May 2015 #72

Keep attacking people with valid points, And the " Someone " orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #99

You have the heads exploding. I think they should create a society where like people can provide Thinkingabout May 2015 #31

Hippie Communes? leftofcool May 2015 #33

Yes and I bet they have an experienced leader in mind. Thinkingabout May 2015 #53

Yeah we do. His name is Bernie Sanders. Experienced and cares about the American people Autumn May 2015 #78

And he has commune experience. Thinkingabout May 2015 #102

So fucking what? Is that supposed to be something awful? Autumn May 2015 #105

Are you a expert on small republican minds? Not here, wrong again, I just said you have a leader, Thinkingabout May 2015 #109

Oh I like the one I've chosen to support for President. Autumn May 2015 #116

Oh, you should ask him, he spent a few years in one. Thinkingabout May 2015 #131

As an old hippie I don't need to ask. Autumn May 2015 #132

Already knew, huh Thinkingabout May 2015 #133

I lived in one for about 6 months. I don't see anything wrong with it. leftofcool May 2015 #110

wow. your characterization of a Bernie supporter m-lekktor May 2015 #35

Ha! I'm a Hillary supporter but I think you've just talked me into supporting Bernie! n/t DawgHouse May 2015 #38

I am in favor of the mixed economy. I am a Keynesian. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #40

Did you vote for Mitt Romney last time? AgingAmerican May 2015 #41

You really like Romney, huh, well he isn't running this time. Thinkingabout May 2015 #60

Then who will you vote for? AgingAmerican May 2015 #63

Sounds like you are a fan of Mitt's, could be his fan voted for him. Thinkingabout May 2015 #106

You and Hillary against the right to education and healthcare? We have to get that on our own? NYC_SKP May 2015 #46

The OP's post is very disingenuous & hypocritical to say the least. /nt think May 2015 #58

Mitt Romney "There are 47% of people who feel entitled to healthcare, to food, to housing!" AgingAmerican May 2015 #70

Oh dear. NuclearDem May 2015 #49

I suggest you self-delete. Hillary supporters here don't support the republican meme cali May 2015 #50

This is some seriously bullshit stuff marym625 May 2015 #56

That sure does sound familiar. Damn those Cadillac Queens that support Bernie Sanders. Autumn May 2015 #62

hahahahahaha-nice try n/t fredamae May 2015 #64

For decades we have hoped for someone... N_E_1 for Tennis May 2015 #68

This is why WE support Bernie Sanders. Autumn May 2015 #74

FDR's 'Second Bill of Rights' included the right to a good education, it is not a new idea/ Bluenorthwest May 2015 #75

So.... Which one sounds like a Democrat? LoveIsNow May 2015 #76

Well put . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #79

So, do we want all these things free? leftofcool May 2015 #86

Education benefits us all, tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations and Wall Street benefit Autumn May 2015 #101

If you can get them taxed, hell I'm all for it! leftofcool May 2015 #113

You just need someone be willing to fight to make them pay taxes. Autumn May 2015 #134

20th century from FDR to sometime in the 70's... ms liberty May 2015 #160

Some of both. LoveIsNow May 2015 #141

+1 historylovr May 2015 #154

+1 840high May 2015 #158

+1 whatchamacallit May 2015 #196

Spoken like a true Hillary Supporter. Katashi_itto May 2015 #80

I call bullshit on your edit marym625 May 2015 #89

Yup, I think you've encapsulated the outlook of a Clinton supporter quite nicely Scootaloo May 2015 #104

Bernie has put a way forth to pay for free college.You could google it. hint: CNN money page TheNutcracker May 2015 #107

At least you're giving Sanders supporters right-wing arguments to practice on. arcane1 May 2015 #111

Aren't you the brave poster? Nope. You post puerile flamebait cali May 2015 #115

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #117

Prove this to me and everyone else you have offended Autumn May 2015 #120

I asked the same question marym625 May 2015 #156

... 99Forever May 2015 #123

Bill O'Reilly is that you? Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #124

You should delete this thread . It is beyond repair. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #128

Who paid for it in the 50s and 60s AndreaCG May 2015 #129

This is Right Wing flamebait at its worst. bobjacksonk2832 May 2015 #146

Tax increases on corporations and top bracket individuals Motown_Johnny May 2015 #147

Who provides Bernie's free education? It is paid for by a .005% tax on high speed traders. Vincardog May 2015 #151

LOL, you are taking a lot of hits upaloopa but I think you have a valid observation. ucrdem May 2015 #152

sounds like a Republican script INdemo May 2015 #153

It's amazing that you've managed to not get banned within your 6k+ posts. L0oniX May 2015 #159

Well, this has been a most instructive thread... ms liberty May 2015 #161

The only way to get from your examples is teaching the social contract. freshwest May 2015 #163

"If you can't answer me without an insult" hootinholler May 2015 #173

Speaks volumes: 2307 views, 174 replies and only 5 recs for claiming that Hillary supporters are merrily May 2015 #175

Please think about editing post..... daleanime May 2015 #185

Hi, I am not sure what is happening here. Are you making this request as a host of GD? merrily May 2015 #186

No, just a worry wart..... daleanime May 2015 #189

Thank you. merrily May 2015 #190

Sure I could answer you without a insult..... daleanime May 2015 #180

Repuke Bootstraps Bullshit whatchamacallit May 2015 #181

Your OP reminded me of a book I read long ago... Fumesucker May 2015 #187

... DanTex May 2015 #193

Yikes. I don't think you're doing Hillary any favors with that comparison cyberswede May 2015 #192

Great example of use of a Red-Herring, it screams out to be bookmarked HereSince1628 May 2015 #194

I cant wait for your next installment of RW lies about Liberals. bunnies May 2015 #198