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I notice he doesn't say what metric he WOULD use to judge progress. True Blue Door May 2015 #1
Agreed. It's a broad front. It's possible to be making progress in 2/3rds of the Iraqi theatre stevenleser May 2015 #2
You know, if we're going to have Congressmen talking about "losing the war," Maedhros May 2015 #3
How could we? KamaAina May 2015 #4
Actually, they have declared a caliphate in ISIS-occupied Syria and Iraq, so I think we could Maedhros May 2015 #6
Does anyone else recognize them? KamaAina May 2015 #18
The point is that if we want to claim all the "benefits" of being in a war, Maedhros May 2015 #19
My point is that there is no entity for us to declare an actual war against. KamaAina May 2015 #20
What 'war' are we 'not losing'? I thought we got out of that ill-conceived, massive war crime in sabrina 1 May 2015 #5
Outrage over elective wars is a rhetorical tool used only against Republicans.[n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #7
Apparently. But at least back in 2002 we still were told when the country was getting ready sabrina 1 May 2015 #10
Who wants to talk about another pointless war, Maedhros May 2015 #11
I really agree with you. I was just setting here thinking about what would happen if we just walked jwirr May 2015 #9
When has our military involvement in the Middle East ever resulted in something good? [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #12
No and that is why I was thinking about getting out. We have done nothing but trash the place, jwirr May 2015 #15
It will be tough to exit. Many vested interests want us to fight there, forever. [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #17
Well, considering the TOTAL failure of ALL our interventions so far, I think we SHOULD get out sabrina 1 May 2015 #13
I also think we should leave but this is just us. The MIC, the politicians including ours, the rich jwirr May 2015 #16
+ a brazilian. hifiguy May 2015 #22
He's right that we aren't making much progress, but there's no need for alarm. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #8
ISIS is Bush's baby... Cali_Democrat May 2015 #14
His Chimperial Majesty broke it, hifiguy May 2015 #21
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