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In reply to the discussion: Hillary Clinton on Workers Rights, Labor Unions, and the Social Security Tax Cap. [View all]NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)54. "Clinton supported following the advice of a bipartisan commission that favored raising..."
Senator Clinton supported following the advice of a bipartisan commission that favored raising the retirement age.
This can be inferred from her exchange during a debate:
OBAMA: Well, no
because the alternatives, like raising the retirement age, or cutting benefits, or raising the payroll tax on everybody, including people who make less than $97,000 a year
those are not good policy options.
Senator Clinton responded with more wishy-washy defense of her position. Sounding like an old-time Republican, she gave the old mantra of Americas fiscal class war:
When it comes to Social Security, fiscal responsibility is the first and more important step. . . . And with all due respect, the last time we had a crisis in Social Security was 1983. President Reagan and Speaker Tip ONeill came up with a commission. That was the best and smartest way, because youve got to get Republicans and Democrats together. Thats what I will do.
She promised not to impose additional burdens on middle-class families that is, implicitly defining the middle class as those who earn from $97,000 to $3,000,000,000 per year. This remarkable definition of middle class has yet to make it into the sociological textbooks, but Im sure the University of Chicago will soon make the requisite adjustment.
Senator Obama was quick to respond: That commission raised the retirement age, Charlie, and also raised the payroll tax. He said that she was proposing a magic solution. (This was the equivalent of voodoo economics of which Pres. Bush I accused Ronald Reagan of practicing.)
Senator Clinton responded with more wishy-washy defense of her position. Sounding like an old-time Republican, she gave the old mantra of Americas fiscal class war:
When it comes to Social Security, fiscal responsibility is the first and more important step. . . . And with all due respect, the last time we had a crisis in Social Security was 1983. President Reagan and Speaker Tip ONeill came up with a commission. That was the best and smartest way, because youve got to get Republicans and Democrats together. Thats what I will do.
She promised not to impose additional burdens on middle-class families that is, implicitly defining the middle class as those who earn from $97,000 to $3,000,000,000 per year. This remarkable definition of middle class has yet to make it into the sociological textbooks, but Im sure the University of Chicago will soon make the requisite adjustment.
Senator Obama was quick to respond: That commission raised the retirement age, Charlie, and also raised the payroll tax. He said that she was proposing a magic solution. (This was the equivalent of voodoo economics of which Pres. Bush I accused Ronald Reagan of practicing.)
In the same exchange, she said:
OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what Ive said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness. We saw an article today which showed that the top 50 hedge fund managers made $29 billion last year $29 billion for 50 individuals. And part of what has happened is that those who are able to work the stock market and amass huge fortunes on capital gains are paying a lower tax rate than their secretaries. Thats not fair.
I want businesses to thrive and I want people to be rewarded for their success. But what I also want to make sure is that our tax system is fair and that we are able to finance health care for Americans who currently dont have it and that were able to invest it in our infrastructure and invest in our schools.
In response, Sen. Clinton say said:
CLINTON: I dont want to take one more penny of tax money from anybody.
MODERATOR: Would you say, No, Im not going to raise capital gains taxes?
CLINTON: I wouldnt raise it above the 20 percent if I raised it at all. I would not raise it above what it was during the Clinton administration.
I want businesses to thrive and I want people to be rewarded for their success. But what I also want to make sure is that our tax system is fair and that we are able to finance health care for Americans who currently dont have it and that were able to invest it in our infrastructure and invest in our schools.
In response, Sen. Clinton say said:
CLINTON: I dont want to take one more penny of tax money from anybody.
MODERATOR: Would you say, No, Im not going to raise capital gains taxes?
CLINTON: I wouldnt raise it above the 20 percent if I raised it at all. I would not raise it above what it was during the Clinton administration.
I don't want to call her a Republican, but it sure reads as if a Republican had taken over her brain and made those comments, doesn't it?

http://michael-hudson.com/2008/04/resurrecting-greenspan-hillary-joins-the-vast-rightwing-financial-conspiracy/
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Hillary Clinton on Workers Rights, Labor Unions, and the Social Security Tax Cap. [View all]
NYC_SKP
May 2015
OP
Would it be OK if I post daily facts so that members who are still on the fence can decide?
NYC_SKP
May 2015
#10
That's who I meant by "another little one who could grow up in the white house"!
NYC_SKP
May 2015
#15
Yes, compared to Bernie, Hillary is to the right on the important issues. And, compared to ANY
NoJusticeNoPeace
May 2015
#30
Thanks for the link. "Media Forget Context In Effort To Scandalize Hillary Clinton's Assessment..."
Cerridwen
May 2015
#6
Privatization, maybe? She seems to be avoiding that third-rail. Not particularly courageous.
NYC_SKP
May 2015
#21
So what SPECIFICALLY is she proposing to do to close the funding gap? (please see #20) nt
progree
May 2015
#25
Reagan era tax rates? You mean BEFORE he cut the top bracket to 28% (I hope) nt
progree
May 2015
#23
I agree. But this seems to be about as progressive as it gets, even Bernie Sanders is for the gap
progree
May 2015
#37
We'll soon (perhaps) get more clarity on Hillary's position on the retirement age and the cap
progree
May 2015
#48
"Clinton supported following the advice of a bipartisan commission that favored raising..."
NYC_SKP
May 2015
#54
I will have to look more into it, but my quick reaction is I don't disagree with your last sentence
progree
May 2015
#57
Well, except I don't agree with your "inference" about raising the retirement age
progree
May 2015
#60