Maybe it's not the size of the drum (Reply #272)

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Mon May 18, 2015, 11:07 PM

272. Maybe it's not the size of the drum

but the quality of the music. Bernie's dollar goes ten times as far as Hillary's dollar. Bernie's drum only needs to be heard once for him to gain supporters.

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At least 17 years! [View all]	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	OP
As a proud gay man I stand with Hillary Clinton!	hrmjustin	May 2015	#1
17 years. nt	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#2
I will only vote for a candidate I believe can win.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#5
Then why support Hillary Clinton?	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#30
Lol your opinion. My opinion is she is the only Democratic Candidate or possible Democratic	hrmjustin	May 2015	#34
But she's won many tough fights	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#35
She endured Bosnian sniper fire, for starters	RufusTFirefly	May 2015	#91
I love you.	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#96
Just as long as Mrs. Teasdale doesn't find out!	RufusTFirefly	May 2015	#105
Quit picking on her. She was telling the truth about being under fire in Bosnia	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#158
You got those right wing talking points	MaggieD	May 2015	#370
Busted! You got me!	RufusTFirefly	May 2015	#375
Haha thread win!	whatchamacallit	May 2015	#379
There was the Credit Card and small peon bankruptcy legislation.	Octafish	May 2015	#305
She polls better than any other candidate -- Democrat or Republican.	pnwmom	May 2015	#49
Lol I wonder if Sanders supporters realize the gop wants him to win.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#52
The GOP likes him as a spoiler, just as they did Ralph.	pnwmom	May 2015	#57
Probably not because it would hurt him with some of the purists.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#63
Ralph?	daleanime	May 2015	#64
Nader. n/t	pnwmom	May 2015	#88
It's what I would expect from a republican....	daleanime	May 2015	#264
+1 ...and we have a third pary now ...the 1%.	L0oniX	May 2015	#347
Barry?	KMOD	May 2015	#253
When Obama first started his campaign for president.....	daleanime	May 2015	#260
At least Bernie doesn't have the blood of 1,000,000+ Iraqi civilians	KingCharlemagne	May 2015	#113
True. We can thank Ralph for helping to toss the election to Bush,	pnwmom	May 2015	#115
Actually you can than Al	rpannier	May 2015	#148
And yet if 1% of Nader's 95,000 votes in Florida had gone to Gore,	pnwmom	May 2015	#155
Florida is always the thing that is pointed to	rpannier	May 2015	#161
It might not be the only reason Gore lost -- but he would have WON if 1% of Nader's voters	pnwmom	May 2015	#164
It "might" not be the only reason...?	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#222
It would never have gotten to SCOTUS if 1% of Nader voters picked Gore instead.	pnwmom	May 2015	#249
You have	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#262
300,000+ Florida Democrats voted for Bush.	SMC22307	May 2015	#307
And each of them was responsible for 1 vote. Nader controlled 95,000 votes in Florida alone,	pnwmom	May 2015	#310
This is so lame	tennstar	May 2015	#382
You realize Bush got 10x more votes from registered Democrats than Nader did, right?	jeff47	May 2015	#269
Most of them had left the party during the Reagan years.	pnwmom	May 2015	#314
So now your argument is it didn't matter, but it did matter.	jeff47	May 2015	#329
And just mayber...	Paka	May 2015	#351
And if 0.03% of the 300K Dem voters who voted for Bush in Florida had voted for Gore--	eridani	May 2015	#340
HE didn't lose. He won.	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#254
Nader's 95,000 votes caused the election to be thrown to the SCOTUS. If only a small fraction	pnwmom	May 2015	#332
This fucking bullshit yet again?!	TM99	May 2015	#342
Exactly. Bush actually campaigned on war with Iraq.	KMOD	May 2015	#208
Bush most definitely did NOT campaign on a war with Iraq.	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#267
Oh c'mon. I remember the debates quite well.	KMOD	May 2015	#287
Thanks for the laugh	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#291
It's mutual,	KMOD	May 2015	#296
You're not still trotting out that old canard (that Nader was responsible	KingCharlemagne	May 2015	#330
Ralph Nader ran as an Independent. Please study up before you make silly comparisons.	NYC_SKP	May 2015	#355
You expect their rhetoric to be different then any other time?	Rex	May 2015	#362
considering unlike raplh	DonCoquixote	May 2015	#196
Nope the GOP feels like you do. that he can't win	zeemike	May 2015	#119
I am a thinking adult thank you very much.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#122
That is what she is expected to raise and spend.	zeemike	May 2015	#157
And after 20 years of so called scandal she is on track to be the president of the USA.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#166
Do they now?	zeemike	May 2015	#188
How is sanders going to win?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#189
By getting votes.	zeemike	May 2015	#204
How are people going to hear about his positions?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#209
Well they are hearing about them now are they not?	zeemike	May 2015	#237
The money is needed for comercials and gotv.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#241
Well I am not trying to convince you	zeemike	May 2015	#315
And endurance and Hillary has endurance.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#317
he seems to be getting heard, even while being shut out by the media. From the NY Times:	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#288
Yet he is still behind in the polls.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#289
You're right. He should give up now.	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#292
Lol.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#293
Sanders will get the Democratic base	tiredtoo	May 2015	#380
How will he get his message out without big money?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#381
it is going viral	tiredtoo	May 2015	#407
Realistic and it won't work.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#408
Just curious	tiredtoo	May 2015	#422
Hillary.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#423
Well I Admire your loyalty	tiredtoo	May 2015	#424
No i didn't. i liked him but i wanted Hillary.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#425
Well then	tiredtoo	May 2015	#426
Thats fine.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#427
20 years of non-scandals that everyone is sick of.	KMOD	May 2015	#202
They don't have to buy it.	zeemike	May 2015	#220
Her campaign is doing just fine.	KMOD	May 2015	#257
Good he can beat them like a drum too.	hootinholler	May 2015	#150
How will he beat them if he won't take big money?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#152
Like. A. Drum. That's how.	hootinholler	May 2015	#153
Explain that to those of us that need a more detailed answer please.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#162
Ok, maybe a video will help	hootinholler	May 2015	#177
You have a lovely night.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#180
lol	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#247
I liked the stick work	hootinholler	May 2015	#336
That should be a stand alone OP in our group.	Autumn	May 2015	#352
I love Bernie,	KMOD	May 2015	#263
Maybe it's not the size of the drum	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#272
We will see.	KMOD	May 2015	#285
Nope.	hootinholler	May 2015	#335
What's your fixation on Big Money?	frylock	May 2015	#409
I am a realist and i think younneed money to get your message out.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#410
Just like Romney and Fiorina	frylock	May 2015	#412
Their message sucked. people didn't like it.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#414
Gee, no shit?	frylock	May 2015	#417
My point is you need money to get your message out.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#418
Polls vs. hubris	BainsBane	May 2015	#76
Her polling is excellent.	KMOD	May 2015	#250
This is a rightwing talking point, what is it doing on DU?	NoJusticeNoPeace	May 2015	#56
.	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#61
Where did you come from?	Renew Deal	May 2015	#193
You first	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#200
Spare me the hugs	Renew Deal	May 2015	#207
You should be commended for	FlatBaroque	May 2015	#216
She is a repug wet dream!!	pocoloco	May 2015	#371
Do you think you control more than one vote?	lumberjack_jeff	May 2015	#90
No i get no toaster if that is what you mean.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#94
I don't consider "weathervane" a highly admirable character trait.	lumberjack_jeff	May 2015	#102
One of my core principles is I will not vote for a candidate for president who is not likely to win.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#106
That's not principle, that's prognostication. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	May 2015	#109
Call it whatever you will. i am not going to vote for Sanders in a primary.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#110
"I have voted for Hillary 5 times and will do so again"	Caretha	May 2015	#132
Lol i could say something here but I won't.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#138
You said "Those Damn Juries!"	Caretha	May 2015	#143
Not at all. i love juries.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#149
Then be more careful	Caretha	May 2015	#156
Thank you for Illuminating me.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#167
Ha!	zappaman	May 2015	#172
Some might say	BainsBane	May 2015	#278
But a bit repetitive at times.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#283
Some folks get double justice	BainsBane	May 2015	#274
Lol.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#276
Sid???	Caretha	May 2015	#203
Are you accusing me of being a sock?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#206
We are all Sid.	KMOD	May 2015	#217
This is just too funny.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#225
Me, too! Me, too!	okasha	May 2015	#280
Yes. We are	KMOD	May 2015	#284
LOL	Caretha	May 2015	#224
I have a fan club?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#226
Actually	Caretha	May 2015	#228
Do tell me what skinner says about my being sid.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#231
Uh...	Caretha	May 2015	#235
I already know who i am.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#239
I have a suggestion for you too	Caretha	May 2015	#248
.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#251
I'm a fan.	KMOD	May 2015	#245
Thanks.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#246
I'm in your fan club!	BainsBane	May 2015	#319
Thanks.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#320
I don't see why you waste your time	BainsBane	May 2015	#322
Well if they respond to me i feel i should respond back but tonight was a lot.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#325
Look	BainsBane	May 2015	#328
Sid is in the basement working in the server room.	KMOD	May 2015	#215
But but but but	Caretha	May 2015	#218
Your illumination of issues is just fascinating.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#221
Lol!	zappaman	May 2015	#333
Your post is funny.	KMOD	May 2015	#265
So you're not voting. Republicans are picking their candidate with Hillary, much	Exilednight	May 2015	#100
I am sorry but i am not getting your meaning.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#101
And what makes you think Sanders is such a loser, vs. the Republicans?	Scootaloo	May 2015	#123
He will have a hard time getting centrists to vote for him imo.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#126
Are you claiming that the Republicans play better to centrists than Sanders?	Scootaloo	May 2015	#133
No i am saying Hillary will.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#144
No. You're telling me that republicans are too awesome for Sanders to beat.	Scootaloo	May 2015	#176
Thats crap and you know it.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#179
No, it's not. it's your argument. Let's take your points	Scootaloo	May 2015	#198
I don't think they have anything over him.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#201
They're not especially legitimate concerns	Scootaloo	May 2015	#230
I think centrists like comprimise.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#236
Can you see centrist dems jumping for any of those clowns like they did for Bush in '00?	Scootaloo	May 2015	#252
Well this primary will be a chance to prove he can win.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#255
Sensible Centrists... always the problem.	SMC22307	May 2015	#234
Well you need centrists to win.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#238
Please explain why Bernie's message doesn't resonate with Centrists.	SMC22307	May 2015	#243
Well not a centrist but i think they like compromise.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#244
Are Centrists principled? Do they stand for anything?	SMC22307	May 2015	#297
I am not a centrist so you would have to ask them.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#300
no, you need independants to win. independants aren't necessarily centrists.	frylock	May 2015	#256
Some are centrists and yes you do need them.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#258
Actually, no. Almost none are centrists.	jeff47	May 2015	#275
The Sanders needs to prove himself.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#279
So, time to abandon that argument and throw up another failed argument?	jeff47	May 2015	#298
Sorry but Sanders has not been tested by Republicans electorally like he will be in a general.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#302
Neither has Clinton. So why do you only demand proof from Sanders? (nt)	jeff47	May 2015	#311
Hillary has been tested by every Republican mear and is still here.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#313
Tested how? By losing the 2008 primary?	jeff47	May 2015	#331
living in ny i can tell you 2000 was not simple.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#346
Yes, 2000 was simple. Her Republican opponent was a cakewalk.	jeff47	May 2015	#399
Do you live in NY?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#400
I used to.	jeff47	May 2015	#401
Well as someone who was involved in campaigning for hef that year I can tell you it	hrmjustin	May 2015	#402
Never claimed it was zero work. I claimed it wasn't a difficult challenge.	jeff47	May 2015	#403
And i can tell you it was difficult.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#404
Not only is he a socialist....	PosterChild	May 2015	#210
Not only is that a non-sequitor....	Scootaloo	May 2015	#233
'tis not..	PosterChild	May 2015	#316
That's why I'm supporting Bernie. His chances of winning are imo, far greater than Hillary's.	sabrina 1	May 2015	#124
I don't see him winning the centrist vote.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#127
Then you see the Republican getting the centrist vote? Makes sense, Reagan Democrats and all. /nt	Dragonfli	May 2015	#194
It is possible he could but the question is if he won't take big money how will he get his message	hrmjustin	May 2015	#197
We were talking about the centrist vote that you said he could not get, meaning you appear to think	Dragonfli	May 2015	#211
Don't mistake my meaning. i don't think their message will be stronger but without	hrmjustin	May 2015	#214
Democrats have lost time and again chasing that mythical centrist vote.	frylock	May 2015	#259
Clinton and Obama won centrists.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#261
I believe that you continue to conflate independants with centrists..	frylock	May 2015	#268
They define themselves as middle of the roaders.moderstes.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#270
So that mush in the middle will vote for the Republican? (n/t)	SMC22307	May 2015	#308
depends. If he hax enough money to get his message out then he might 7ght.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#312
Who are these "centrists" and what is it you think they want? Compromise isn't much of an answer	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#341
I think they want both parties to comprise on legislation on different topics.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#345
Again, compromise is a tactic to reach an acceptable end, it is not and cannot be an end.	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#420
I am not advocating for compromise but giving an opinion on what I think centrists want.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#421
"centrists" are the third party. It's the party of the 1%. It's the party that joins both...	L0oniX	May 2015	#348
I'm waiting to see a poll that supports that view.	KMOD	May 2015	#223
So to you, WINNING is EVERYthing?	99th_Monkey	May 2015	#389
Yes! If we lose the country goes down with the gop and they replace the aging SC justices	hrmjustin	May 2015	#390
For now, that is totally irrelevant.	99th_Monkey	May 2015	#391
Hint:Primaries are about getting our best candidate.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#392
Then why settle for 2nd best?	99th_Monkey	May 2015	#393
I'm not. She is my first choice.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#395
OK	99th_Monkey	May 2015	#396
.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#397
Almost 10 years. nt	Andy823	May 2015	#147
Sorry Manny	MaggieD	May 2015	#357
+1,000,000	yeoman6987	May 2015	#60
.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#66
Justin~	sheshe2	May 2015	#170
Thank you She!	hrmjustin	May 2015	#173
Well~	sheshe2	May 2015	#183
This is just fine my friend.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#187
So, are you blown away that Bernie	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#277
He hasn't been especially vocal about it	MaggieD	May 2015	#358
actually he has, but as YOU have noted several times, HRC has a much	cali	May 2015	#361
Cali, the GLBT community loves HRC	MaggieD	May 2015	#368
No.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#372
you got it, right up to the point where he isnt the candidate, if that happens, then I will	randys1	May 2015	#3
Wouldn't social progress be a first female president?	JaneyVee	May 2015	#4
Thread win!	hrmjustin	May 2015	#6
And the first Jewish President would be chopped liver?	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#8
So you're backing Debbie Wasserman Schultz as a two-fer?	Jim Lane	May 2015	#38
Hmm...	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#39
It would be ignorant to	TM99	May 2015	#11
It would be more ignorant to choose a lesser qualified candidate because he is a man.	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#24
17 years! nt	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#27
It does not make him more qualified. Just being a member of	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#47
What does make Hillary more qualified?	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#48
Oh, really, we sure can't say Bernie is even qualified to teach Saddam a lesson.	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#62
Well he is off the planet.	yeoman6987	May 2015	#65
Sanders voted to fund the war.	okasha	May 2015	#295
Just being first lady and a senator and SoS doesn't make one qualified or not qualified	cali	May 2015	#363
Either you can look at the record for both or exclude the record for both.	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#385
She's been a much more vocal advocate	MaggieD	May 2015	#364
Now you know some do not want to hear these things,huh.	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#416
Except the man currently running	TM99	May 2015	#46
Perhaps in your opinion, in my opinion he does not have the qualifications	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#51
If we stay on topic with this OP,	TM99	May 2015	#69
He is not acceptable on other issues so what does it matter.	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#111
What other issues is he not acceptable on?	TM99	May 2015	#146
Then the only reason you are pushing for Bernie is because hevhas not "evolved" on the LGBT issue,	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#199
The only reason? Ha!	TM99	May 2015	#205
When are you going to evolve on people "evolving"?	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#213
This is a typical Clinton supporter response.	TM99	May 2015	#273
You can't answer, is it because you will never evolve? Talk about evading the question.	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#318
Real human beings change & grow.	TM99	May 2015	#327
I have not seen where you have expressed remorse. Can you accept the fact some have evolved without	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#413
Done playing your game.	TM99	May 2015	#430
I see you think it is a game, perhaps others does not, continual denial does not change the facts.	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#431
You are the one playing a very sad game.	TM99	May 2015	#432
See, you are not pleased with opinions changing, never happy, you should try being happy for a	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#433
Can you please answer the question?	Kermitt Gribble	May 2015	#388
I do not agree with the social issues and am apprehensive on his national security for two things	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#415
NO ONE here is voting for Sanders because he's a man	tkmorris	May 2015	#82
What?	malokvale77	May 2015	#99
omg -- here comes the "you're sexist if you don't vote for Hillary" thematics.	nashville_brook	May 2015	#175
Don't attempt to rewrite my post, I posted what I posted. Whatever you say is what you say.	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#195
cough, cough, bullshit	cali	May 2015	#334
Obama isn't running.	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#411
It is ignorant to choose a lesser qualified candidate based on their gender or their race.	Autumn	May 2015	#353
^^^ this ^^^ (nt)	malokvale77	May 2015	#89
No more and no less ignorant than choosing a candidate simply because they arrived at a common	LanternWaste	May 2015	#356
Here is the deal that so many of y'all don't get.	TM99	May 2015	#429
Not necessarily.	Warren DeMontague	May 2015	#12
Would you say the same if it was Carly Fiorina? Bachman? n/t	leftstreet	May 2015	#15
Being male or female does not qualify one to be president, we have used the male thing on the past	Thinkingabout	May 2015	#107
I sit home and bake cookies.	SMC22307	May 2015	#321
why wouldn't electing the first Jewish President be social progress?	cali	May 2015	#16
because according to the privilege-o-matic, Jews are MORE privileged than Christians, even.	Warren DeMontague	May 2015	#26
Good thing I'm tall.	JEB	May 2015	#55
Oh my god! I am non privileged. Who knew.	yeoman6987	May 2015	#70
Keep saying that and maybe Hillary Clinton will convert. n/t	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#130
If she was a "progressive"	Caretha	May 2015	#137
How do you equate	Caretha	May 2015	#154
I will stand with Hillary, thank you.	leftofcool	May 2015	#7
you mean, Sanders supported it when it was unpopular while Hillary waited until	cali	May 2015	#18
+1. n/t	Smarmie Doofus	May 2015	#114
If economic equality is achieved social progress will follow	tularetom	May 2015	#9
Well, in that case, Hillary's your candidate.	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#13
I wish you'd tell that to them people at the HRC group	tularetom	May 2015	#50
Well, you have to understand: Hillary's most Republican-like policies are Economic	Maedhros	May 2015	#73
It is for HRC supporters only.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#74
Any attempt by me to intercede with that group	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#384
I don't think she's "for" economic equality.	Phlem	May 2015	#383
Not true ... for the 4,000,000th time ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#67
So true!	sheshe2	May 2015	#185
I guess I should have qualified that with ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#232
Complete and utter bullshit.	F4lconF16	May 2015	#87
We have had periods of much greater economic equality	gollygee	May 2015	#266
absolutely. and a man who fought for civil rights for African Americans	cali	May 2015	#10
I think the idea that the triangulation wing of the Democratic Party is supposed to be BETTER on	Warren DeMontague	May 2015	#14
Look fella, we have a big tent	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#17
I told them to stay off the moors	Warren DeMontague	May 2015	#23
Yep. HRC vs. Bernie on social/human rights issues is pretty much a push.	hifiguy	May 2015	#25
I think it's worth noting that only one of them had to "evolve" their position.	Warren DeMontague	May 2015	#31
Oh, I am very aware of that.	hifiguy	May 2015	#36
17 years? nt	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#33
Only if you give equal credit to leading from behind as you do for being well ahead of the curve.	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#41
I don't but will give her partial credit	hifiguy	May 2015	#43
I agree 100%, the phrasing kinda gave me a different vibe.	TheKentuckian	May 2015	#92
Spot on. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	May 2015	#95
Except even that doesn't have a good basis in facts.	jeff47	May 2015	#294
Well at the very least Bill Clinton was the doc in the ER when the very sick man miraculously came	Warren DeMontague	May 2015	#323
Bernie is excellent on both, while Hillary is good on only one.	Maedhros	May 2015	#19
In the absence of economic progress, social progress is fragile. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	May 2015	#20
They are equally important and	hifiguy	May 2015	#21
So which one is Hillary apposed to?	upaloopa	May 2015	#22
Bernie doesn't count the likes of Dimon and Blankfein	hifiguy	May 2015	#28
They are interdependent...	kentuck	May 2015	#29
Economic progress IS social progress.	-none	May 2015	#32
They have to be tackled at the same time, but	sadoldgirl	May 2015	#37
Manny, Manny, Manny, do you believe that arm growth is as important as leg growth? nt	valerief	May 2015	#40
I believe in anything that Karl Rove tells me to believe.	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#42
You mean Cruel Rogue. nt	valerief	May 2015	#45
Good for you Manny	Andy823	May 2015	#141
This message was self-deleted by its author	SidDithers	May 2015	#44
Said the guy that wrote ... then, self-deleted ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#53
That, my friend, is utter [email protected]#$%.	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#58
"You know when I know our teenager's up to no good? ..." ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#72
Still got nothin' but innuendo, I see	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#75
I can't produce what you self-deleted ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#77
My chicken and watermelon joke?	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#80
Will you pull your ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#85
LOL	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#86
No ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#93
So pull over then. They take just as dim a view of those who read while driving too.	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#139
No, there's nothing ironic in that he typed	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#282
Your mocking POC for being over sensitive about watermelon jokes.....	bettyellen	May 2015	#142
Here you are ... for the 5th time ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#190
That doesn't even link to a post of mine.	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#191
Okay ...	1StrongBlackMan	May 2015	#227
I used to run from my statements too...	LanternWaste	May 2015	#359
+1...nt	SidDithers	May 2015	#71
I love how Bernie has put an end to the argument	pnwmom	May 2015	#54
He also put an end to the hair thing and the clothing thing,	KMOD	May 2015	#271
Well, for Clinton. People still attack him for it. (nt)	jeff47	May 2015	#301
I don't.	KMOD	May 2015	#303
Yeah, well where was he in 1997?	rug	May 2015	#59
I find it interesting that Clinton is particularly popular among the LGBT community	BainsBane	May 2015	#68
I think she's particularly popular among Democrats in general, and certainly most Democrats	Warren DeMontague	May 2015	#79
I can think of a few	BainsBane	May 2015	#84
I think your narrative doesn't really line up with reality, frankly.	Warren DeMontague	May 2015	#97
Excuse me, but you don't determine my reality	BainsBane	May 2015	#219
that's right. And you don't determine what I think, either.	Warren DeMontague	May 2015	#306
I have no interest in changing your head	BainsBane	May 2015	#324
Meh. I have children.	Warren DeMontague	May 2015	#326
"You know, somebody is always first," Clinton told NPR's Terry Gross last summer....	SidDithers	May 2015	#78
So, basically, "It's OK to think the LGBT community is inferior	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#83
So did Sanders think we were inferior before he came out for marriage equality?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#98
Was Bernie ever against marriage equality?	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#104
You said he was for it 17 years correct?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#112
The earliest record that I know of is voting against DOMA	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#116
Ok well if he came out for it 17 years ago or so it has to mean before hand his opinion evolved	hrmjustin	May 2015	#118
Why?	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#121
Are you saying then that he felt it was right but for political reasons kept his mouth shut?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#125
Ha!	zappaman	May 2015	#131
.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#134
Did anyone ask? nt	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#140
If he was so cocommitted to marriage equality he would not need to be asked!	hrmjustin	May 2015	#145
Well, can we at agree that at the very worst, Bernie was probably	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#151
No we agree that 17 years ago he came out for it.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#160
What percentage of Americans embraced marriage equality 19 years ago? nt	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#165
maybe 25 to 35 percent. why?	hrmjustin	May 2015	#168
That high?	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#174
It was a guess. lets assume 25 percent for the sake of tbis discussion.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#178
Is that really where you are going to hang your hat? (nt)	malokvale77	May 2015	#169
No.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#171
No?	malokvale77	May 2015	#181
Perhaps you should bit clearer about your meaning.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#182
There was no riddle. (nt)	malokvale77	May 2015	#184
You have a lovely night.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#186
I'm sorry, but waiting until the polls say it's okay, is not a badge of honor.	Warren DeMontague	May 2015	#159
I like to rec Bernie Sanders threads at DU. nt	PufPuf23	May 2015	#81
I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go	cantbeserious	May 2015	#103
....	840high	May 2015	#128
Social progress is useless in an economically conservative environment	DJ13	May 2015	#108
Only if you're a white man is that actually true.	bettyellen	May 2015	#136
Problem for me is...	malokvale77	May 2015	#117
Truth to me.	840high	May 2015	#129
I join you.	840high	May 2015	#120
this thread...	quickesst	May 2015	#135
Bullshit.	RiffRandell	May 2015	#163
please re-read...	quickesst	May 2015	#304
The irony here is the idea that longevity of a position	treestar	May 2015	#339
What accomplishments does Sanders have on equality and LGBT issues?	Renew Deal	May 2015	#192
Compared to Hillary?	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#212
That's hardly an accomplishment.	Renew Deal	May 2015	#229
But what greater accomplishment does Hillary have? nt	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#242
The only way Bernie beats Clinton in the primary ...	JoePhilly	May 2015	#240
Anyone will beat the Republican	jeff47	May 2015	#309
I agree with most of the math ...	JoePhilly	May 2015	#344
Good point. Trashing Hillary at every opportunity is hardly likely	treestar	May 2015	#337
Thank you, Manny	KMOD	May 2015	#281
"finally admitting"?	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#286
I haven't heard you voice such loud opinion on social issues before.	KMOD	May 2015	#290
There's a lot of Douglas Adams in this thread.	GoneOffShore	May 2015	#299
I don't really care	treestar	May 2015	#338
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!	Enthusiast	May 2015	#343
Are you opposed to Hillarys stance on the issue? nt.	NCTraveler	May 2015	#349
By your own metric, wouldn't this put Warren well behind Clinton if Warren were to enter the race.	NCTraveler	May 2015	#350
Nice that we have TWO candidates that....	MaggieD	May 2015	#354
As a gay man I trust Hillary on LGBT issues.	hrmjustin	May 2015	#360
I feel the same	MaggieD	May 2015	#365
.	Rex	May 2015	#366
As the rec count climbs the personal attacks become ever more frenzied	Fumesucker	May 2015	#367
Well if there is one thing GLBT people love....	MaggieD	May 2015	#369
There are leaders and there are followers	Fumesucker	May 2015	#373
Bernie has not been a leader on this issue	MaggieD	May 2015	#376
Oh no doubt, just wondering if MG ever gets tired of it since he should already	Rex	May 2015	#405
I know the outcome of a lot of my posts these days as I'm sure you do your own	Fumesucker	May 2015	#419
Just making a point	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#406
How many years is Hillary ahead of any one from the (R) clown car?	LadyHawkAZ	May 2015	#374
It's really ridiculous at this point	MaggieD	May 2015	#377
And obvious. n/t	LadyHawkAZ	May 2015	#386
+1	zappaman	May 2015	#378
Oh...go hug a tree or something, you hippie!	randome	May 2015	#387
Yep, this thread is just another	Bobbie Jo	May 2015	#394
I'm with Bernie all the way, I've donated twice, and will campaign for him.. but I will pull the	secondwind	May 2015	#398
No Doubt, I've never voted for a Republican . But DOUBT filled my	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#434
Ahead of the loop in many ways .	orpupilofnature57	May 2015	#428
kick	woo me with science	May 2015	#435

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