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In the discussion thread: Thoughts on the Death Penalty [View all]

Response to Jackpine Radical (Original post)

Sat May 16, 2015, 02:22 PM

mvd (63,974 posts)

77. K&R!

When I was younger, I supported it in cases like the Boston Bomber's, but no more. Against in all cases. It is not sympathy for the murderers at all. It is knowing that further murder is not the answer to violence - plus you can never have a perfect system that would eliminate racial bias, bias based on income, etc.

So sad that even in Massachusetts, we still have a ways to go, even though we have made progress. Didn't help that the jurors had to be death penalty qualified.

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80 replies	Author	Time	Post
Thoughts on the Death Penalty [View all]	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	OP
I'm 100% against the death penalty.	onehandle	May 2015	#1
+1	daleanime	May 2015	#44
k&r	uppityperson	May 2015	#2
And then there was one less ten commandments	seveneyes	May 2015	#3
Those are the exact reasons I'm against the death penalty.	NuclearDem	May 2015	#4
Agree, but life in a supermax prison may be worse	JustABozoOnThisBus	May 2015	#5
Why a Supermax?	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#9
I have no reason, other than the debates on DU over the last few days.	JustABozoOnThisBus	May 2015	#10
23 hours a day of solitary confinement for life.	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#13
Here's what that "nothing" causes:	F4lconF16	May 2015	#39
The American Oubliette...	haikugal	May 2015	#58
it is torture	Voice for Peace	May 2015	#59
Close the supermax. End life without parole eligibility.	morningfog	May 2015	#11
Agree. Thank you. nt	F4lconF16	May 2015	#65
The Horror	seveneyes	May 2015	#15
+1	Jefferson23	May 2015	#6
I am against the death penalty, across the board	petronius	May 2015	#7
Across the Board	seveneyes	May 2015	#17
For decades it's been a fact that states without the death penalty have lower murder rates.........	George II	May 2015	#38
Correlation is not causation.	rogerashton	May 2015	#8
I'm quite aware of how to interpret a correlation.	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#12
Getting up off the floor literally	malaise	May 2015	#16
What if the murder rate in those states would be higher without the DP?	NotoriousRBG	May 2015	#19
Why might that be?	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#24
If only you had some peer reviewed evidence to back	phil89	May 2015	#20
Peer-reviewed evidence? WTF is that?	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#32
Makes sense to me, Doc. eom	rogerashton	May 2015	#66
Almost every other country in the world gets along just fine without a death penalty.	SheilaT	May 2015	#14
Almost every other country in the world gets along just fine with the USA picking up the defense tab	seveneyes	May 2015	#18
And how is that relevant to the death penalty?	SheilaT	May 2015	#21
So Goddamned relevant, it's often overlooked	seveneyes	May 2015	#22
Gosh. We have the death penalty so as to spare other countries from having it?	SheilaT	May 2015	#23
I trust we're dealing with a bit of	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#25
Yep. Well, maybe more irony than sarcasm. Especially when	SheilaT	May 2015	#27
I guess the notion is that we're the wholesale death merchants to the world.	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#29
Hmmm. I've been known to write science fiction,	SheilaT	May 2015	#33
Jeez, why not?	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#34
I've already written a story in which	SheilaT	May 2015	#35
I so want to read that.	F4lconF16	May 2015	#43
Sounds fascinating.	BeanMusical	May 2015	#51
Thanks for that.	SheilaT	May 2015	#57
It's so simple it is often ignored	seveneyes	May 2015	#26
Thanks for a great post!!!! +1000 nt	Logical	May 2015	#28
Ritualized Human Sacrifice.	Downwinder	May 2015	#30
100% against. No exceptions.	Fearless	May 2015	#31
I think it's good to keep	Omnith	May 2015	#36
Why?	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#37
Society benefits by not having him part of it.	Omnith	May 2015	#42
How exactly was McVeigh part of society after he was incarcerated?	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#45
He wouldn't be in either case.	Omnith	May 2015	#47
You are referring me to a fiction book written under commission	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#48
I'm glad you hold life sacred	Omnith	May 2015	#49
I believe the state should not kill in my name	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#50
Cost to society?	Omnith	May 2015	#54
Funny, most nations can get along without murdering	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#55
I guess we just see things differently	Omnith	May 2015	#63
The death benefit is a negative to society	Major Nikon	May 2015	#67
+1 Well said.	BeanMusical	May 2015	#52
The death penalty is just the most extreme of our criminal system	nadinbrzezinski	May 2015	#40
I can't recommend this post enough.	F4lconF16	May 2015	#46
Excellent contribution to this discussion Nadin.	haikugal	May 2015	#62
I fully agree.	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#69
Grotesque.	haikugal	May 2015	#72
Add one more reason: criminal charges are more often brought against minorities and the poor	jwirr	May 2015	#41
Kick and R.	BeanMusical	May 2015	#53
I am opposed to the death penalty in all cases	Blue_In_AK	May 2015	#56
I'm in NC and I started out pro-death penalty,	Jamastiene	May 2015	#60
It really rings true to me.	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#76
Am against the death penalty unless	akbacchus_BC	May 2015	#61
Then it sounds like you are against the death penalty in all cases	Major Nikon	May 2015	#68
great post, thought provoking, thank you!	Voice for Peace	May 2015	#64
Thank you so much for that!	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#71
For many years I was on the fence about the death penalty	davidpdx	May 2015	#70
There is one place, and one place only	hifiguy	May 2015	#73
And that's the one place we in the US do not apply it. Seems the more people you kill, the less	sabrina 1	May 2015	#74
Not even there, afaic.	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#78
The death penalty is only one very visible facet...	Orsino	May 2015	#75
K&R!	mvd	May 2015	#77
Utah is a death penalty state...	TeeYiYi	May 2015	#79
A funny thing about geometric means--	Jackpine Radical	May 2015	#80

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