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Unvanguard

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55. This isn't especially new. He's had this view forever.

Tue May 12, 2015, 12:39 PM

May 2015

The argument is that it is a structural principle rather than an individual right, so it isn't incorporated by the Fourteenth Amendment against the states.

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Constitutional horror: Clarence Thomas argues states can establish official religion [View all] KamaAina May 2015 OP

Now we know why he was quiet for so long. Baitball Blogger May 2015 #1

That's not a new assertion... brooklynite May 2015 #2

No its not but but the precedent of application to the states is mostly settled. yellowcanine May 2015 #80

Crazy fascist blm May 2015 #3

I do not think that is what the founders had in mind when they wrote Ammendment I Stuart G May 2015 #4

+1,000,000 Auggie May 2015 #7

actually you would be wrong on that dsc May 2015 #26

Correct! The Incorporation Clause of the 14th Amendment applied the Bill of Rights to....... LongTomH May 2015 #78

Thomas has always been a stranger to the 14th Amendment. rug May 2015 #79

OMG! Fuck that shit! I'm not going to have some fairy tale forced on me by ANY government! WTF ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #5

Couldn't have said it better myself! KansDem May 2015 #31

Anybody who bothers reading into the Federalist nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #6

The 14th Amendment says treestar May 2015 #8

Oh that pesky 14th amendment. Clarence hasn't read that far yet. CanonRay May 2015 #16

Notice that the article, from last year, does not quote Thomas or identify the decision jberryhill May 2015 #27

It's tough to call bullshit on someone when they provide no verifiable facts. hughee99 May 2015 #70

it was a poor article, about Town of Greece, NY v. Galloway 134 S. Ct. 1811 (2014) steve2470 May 2015 #71

Yeah, there's no question that Thomas is pretty dumb jberryhill May 2015 #74

Not to quibble... philosslayer May 2015 #73

The Incorporation Doctrine hifiguy May 2015 #9

Incorporation. That was my first thought Ratty May 2015 #21

uncle Ruckus is as crazy as his namesake. hifiguy May 2015 #22

Could you change the type of sandwiches?? Angry Dragon May 2015 #30

lol East Jesus Montana treestar May 2015 #36

Now every time Thomas' name comes up, I also think of Ruckus LittleBlue May 2015 #45

That meme certainly fits Thomas... hifiguy May 2015 #48

When he dies, does he get to go to White Heaven? backscatter712 May 2015 #49

Now that is scary! ananda May 2015 #10

Thomas - do you understand that state religion was what most of our ancestors camne to this jwirr May 2015 #11

Actually, many came to start their own established religions Taitertots May 2015 #14

After the state religion would not allow them to practice their own religion. All over Europe they jwirr May 2015 #18

Do you know what an established religion is? Taitertots May 2015 #51

The early settlers all came on the same ships, lived in a certain area where they started their own jwirr May 2015 #81

You are mistaken regarding the definition of "Established" Taitertots May 2015 #87

The dictionary definition indicates the Church of England as an exampe. A church that by law is jwirr May 2015 #91

Nominated by George H. W. Bush... pinto May 2015 #12

And confirmed after he panicked and played the "high-tech lynching" card..... Paladin May 2015 #52

Antidisestablishmentarianism is not a new thing Taitertots May 2015 #13

But using it in a sentence is! KamaAina May 2015 #17

I'll bet he's been waiting for years.l.. n/t malthaussen May 2015 #23

I had a course in college about the history of economics and religion Taitertots May 2015 #50

Makes about as much sense as saying the First Amendment doesn't apply to blasphemy... Dr. Strange May 2015 #15

That is truly horrifying. Coventina May 2015 #19

Why does Thomas hate the 14th amendment? MohRokTah May 2015 #20

That would be because he hates the USA. n/t malthaussen May 2015 #24

Justice Sleepy SwankyXomb May 2015 #88

Guy should be unanimously impeached. Octafish May 2015 #25

Clarence opened his mouth? NV Whino May 2015 #28

I think he was about to shove his foot into it KamaAina May 2015 #33

Ah, that explains it. NV Whino May 2015 #34

They're gonna need the Jaws of Life hifiguy May 2015 #35

And nothing good comes out. n/t Orsino May 2015 #75

No. It was in a written dissenting opinion in 2014. yellowcanine May 2015 #83

What a relief NV Whino May 2015 #86

Islam coming to a state near you Angry Dragon May 2015 #29

He has not problem with making Christianity a state religion treestar May 2015 #38

I was hoping for the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster in Utah. yellowcanine May 2015 #84

This also jumped out at me: Adsos Letter May 2015 #32

Noticed that too treestar May 2015 #37

There is not a single quote from Thomas in the OP or the link. former9thward May 2015 #39

Dunno. But there are two summaries of his position: KamaAina May 2015 #40

Sorry, I don't accept summaries from reporters on legal matters. former9thward May 2015 #43

there ya go steve2470 May 2015 #56

Here ya go. Direct link to .pdf of opinion. (edited for subject line) Cerridwen May 2015 #57

yep you nailed it, way to go! steve2470 May 2015 #58

If nothing else, it's at least a direct link to the opinion and wording used Cerridwen May 2015 #61

Its not correct. former9thward May 2015 #63

why are you nitpicking ? steve2470 May 2015 #65

I will give you a response. former9thward May 2015 #67

thank you for an intelligent civil response! :) nt steve2470 May 2015 #69

Ahhh, no former9thward May 2015 #62

Ahhhh, yes. I provided a direct link to the opinion referred in the article. Cerridwen May 2015 #66

I read it. former9thward May 2015 #68

Ah. Different goal posts. Cerridwen May 2015 #72

Clarence is an embarrassment to the court and to the nation Skittles May 2015 #41

They needed a black guy to replace Thurgood Marshall KamaAina May 2015 #42

Hello Fourteenth amendment anyone? Kurska May 2015 #44

and we can't complain ....... olddots May 2015 #46

Seriously? Terra Alta May 2015 #47

Well, don't we in the US just have Tsiyu May 2015 #53

how the fuck did this guy ever graduate law school ? steve2470 May 2015 #54

According to Clarence himself, Affirmative Action. n/t SwankyXomb May 2015 #89

This isn't especially new. He's had this view forever. Unvanguard May 2015 #55

It appears he would like to see Everson v. Board of Education of the Township of Ewing swept away. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #59

Establishment clause overview Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #60

Okay, then my state is going to go for the Church of FuckClarenceThomas. Arugula Latte May 2015 #64

what if its scientology or islam? samsingh May 2015 #76

Clearwater, FL might very well establish $cientology KamaAina May 2015 #77

how are such stupid people as clarence judges? samsingh May 2015 #85

This is why me MUST have a democratic win in 2016! workinclasszero May 2015 #82

Did he ever take a class in high school Civics? lpbk2713 May 2015 #90

While drinking Cokes KamaAina May 2015 #92