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8. Don't worry. Global warming will lower ALL our standards of living soon enough. n/t

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Trade agreements lower America's living standards to raise others. Angers me. [View all] madfloridian May 2015 OP

Yep... And We Were Warned... WillyT May 2015 #1

.... madfloridian May 2015 #2

Yes....we were warned, bvar22 May 2015 #133

K&R! marym625 May 2015 #3

K&R CharlotteVale May 2015 #4

She's very good at what she does, but what she does is very, very bad. NYC_SKP May 2015 #5

She likes conversations. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #9

A buck is all it needs to be to make that claim that she's for an increase. NYC_SKP May 2015 #11

She's blowing smoke 840high May 2015 #48

Well, you can't raise the other countries standards of living......... socialist_n_TN May 2015 #6

+1 - Let's keep on repeating this - It's a rigged game. erronis May 2015 #109

TPP part starts at 8:00 in, 40% of world trade, it's going to save women, she says. NYC_SKP May 2015 #7

"it's going to save women" WTF ...holy twisted link sausages Batman! L0oniX May 2015 #13

"Better jobs, higher wages, better working conditions, including for women, migrant workers, others" NYC_SKP May 2015 #14

I eagerly await all those new jobs working 16 hours a day 7 days a week for $1.35 a day. L0oniX May 2015 #18

Plus she's wrong LittleBlue May 2015 #34

Thanks for mentionng that. madfloridian May 2015 #141

Don't worry. Global warming will lower ALL our standards of living soon enough. n/t Binkie The Clown May 2015 #8

I'm afraid you're right. SusanCalvin May 2015 #23

Great post. Couple of things. It's a farse that if the so-called Free Trade agreements lower our rhett o rick May 2015 #10

Hey ...as long as the slave owner looks pretty or runs in the proper circles... L0oniX May 2015 #17

I remember that. madfloridian May 2015 #21

"Nike sweatshops, Asia, the 1990s-onward" SMC22307 May 2015 #62

Beat me to it. tazkcmo May 2015 #113

All Too True cantbeserious May 2015 #12

K&R MissDeeds May 2015 #15

Big K&R! Enthusiast May 2015 #16

European countries do more to help the Third World through trade and does it without damaging pampango May 2015 #19

/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba May 2015 #89

You still have an overseas job? B Calm May 2015 #95

Other than the Peace Corps, I never have had an overseas job. What kind of question is that? n/t pampango May 2015 #111

Precisely this! ^ wendylaroux May 2015 #126

Couldn't even bring myself to watch the video for minutes I'll never get back. Hillary is on track libdem4life May 2015 #20

Hey Mad-F - you are way wrong on this one . . FairWinds May 2015 #22

I should have said they CLAIM to raise living standards... madfloridian May 2015 #24

Yep. For the corporations and the superrich. SusanCalvin May 2015 #27

It's a race to the bottom. n/t Exilednight May 2015 #25

K & R. The Investor Class is doing fine from the system and is already rationalizing appalachiablue May 2015 #26

Something is wrong with that man. madfloridian May 2015 #44

It's not even about raising others standards..... daleanime May 2015 #28

Exactly. They only CLAIM to raise the standards. They only make themselves richer. madfloridian May 2015 #30

It is mostly about exploiting anybody and anything for profit, like it's always been except appalachiablue May 2015 #50

Amen..... daleanime May 2015 #51

Stop The TPP!! AzDar May 2015 #29

What if the agreement actually does correct the deficiencies of past agreements? kristopher May 2015 #31

Why should I blame the poor in other countries? They are victims like our own poor. madfloridian May 2015 #32

Because you explicitly said that? kristopher May 2015 #36

And if it doesn't work as it should? madfloridian May 2015 #38

Yeah, that is the meat of the issue, isn't it? kristopher May 2015 #40

Even that is essential vaporware, the "deal" is that China will continue to escalate emissions for TheKentuckian May 2015 #106

You couldn't be more wrong. kristopher May 2015 #115

If I couldn't be more wrong then you will point out how what I stated is inaccurate. TheKentuckian May 2015 #132

I have seen remarkable changes tennstar May 2015 #122

What's more, the 1% owns a lot of our party also. madfloridian May 2015 #33

I agree. Carper is my senator and he is owned by the banks. kristopher May 2015 #37

May I quote a University Distinguished Professor of Education at Michigan State, Yong Zhao madfloridian May 2015 #39

Yes, I'm aware of that movement in Asia. kristopher May 2015 #45

K&R JEB May 2015 #35

How has your "lifestyle" taken a hit from trade? And why shouldn't we care about people in other Hoyt May 2015 #41

One can "care" about those in other countries.... madfloridian May 2015 #42

Our country is not being brought down to "their" level. Honest to god, this sound Tbaggerish to me. Hoyt May 2015 #43

Ha, never been accused of being a teabagger before. lol madfloridian May 2015 #46

that's one of the tactics being used ibegurpard May 2015 #55

I find it hard to take some of those remarks seriously. madfloridian May 2015 #77

Wages and wealth for the middle class and poor have declined drastically the past 25-30 years, Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #53

their excuse is that its inevitable ibegurpard May 2015 #56

So to keep your lavish lifestyle, we can't help people in poor countries with trade. Hoyt May 2015 #57

Do you know who just said something similar? ibegurpard May 2015 #59

Thanks for that. madfloridian May 2015 #67

"Unbelievable. But not from him." Correct. closeupready May 2015 #129

What a strange thing to say. madfloridian May 2015 #60

It's not at all hard to respond ibegurpard May 2015 #64

And Tbaggers are opposed to helping furiners, like you guys. Hoyt May 2015 #69

Most elected Baggers are on YOUR side. Keep that in mind as you throw accusations. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #103

I'm talking the tbaggers on the street. Hoyt May 2015 #107

I bet. Being a greedy American is hard to rationalize . Hoyt May 2015 #68

And there you have it madfloridian ibegurpard May 2015 #71

Are you poor? I've said there are lots of things we need to do for poor. Hoyt May 2015 #73

.... madfloridian May 2015 #142

Yes, those greedy bastards making $8.50 an hour at Wal Mart or Dollar General Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #72

they obviously don't appreciate how good they have it ibegurpard May 2015 #74

No those who think trading among ourselves and screwing the poor in countries like Vietnam, Hoyt May 2015 #75

So our standard of living goes down ibegurpard May 2015 #78

Has your standard of living gone down? Has it ever occurred to you that Hoyt May 2015 #80

You get your own house in order first before worrying about fixing someone else's house. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #79

And you are just parroting the xenophobic tbaggers. Hoyt May 2015 #81

Everybody against another fake free deal is now a xenophobic tgagger. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #82

And xenophobic tbaggers agree with you. Hoyt May 2015 #83

And this scum agrees with you. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #84

Obama, Deval Patrick, Brookings, etc., disagree with you. Hoyt May 2015 #105

Are you trolling? You have taken the side of the Republicans on this one. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #104

And, you have taken the side of ignorant, xenophobic Tbaggers. Hoyt May 2015 #144

Have you been to Vietnam? know anything about the economy there? Jesus Malverde May 2015 #143

Their GDP is better than ours. LMAO. When you have nothing, a few dollars is a big percentage Hoyt May 2015 #145

I take it you haven't been to Vietnam recently Jesus Malverde May 2015 #146

It's still poor, very poor. And closing the TPP door on them won't help. Hoyt May 2015 #147

Ah pity one of the fastest growing economies in the world. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #148

Kenya, Malaysia, etc., are growing fast too. But not in absolute terms. Hoyt May 2015 #149

Wingnut canard and a logical fallacy. HughBeaumont May 2015 #91

Excellent response! Thank you! LongTomH May 2015 #128

I cannot help but think this is the G. H. W. Bush New World Order made flesh. Enthusiast May 2015 #92

You think doing nothing is going to help? Hoyt May 2015 #99

Doing nothing would be preferable to handing the corporations even more power over our lives. Enthusiast May 2015 #100

Strawman fallacy LongTomH May 2015 #130

No, sitting back and doing nothing will disadvantage us long-term. You'll be sleeping on straw. Hoyt May 2015 #131

Argument by assertion also, Argument from adverse consequences LongTomH May 2015 #134

And you've offered absolutely nothing of value regarding the issue under discussion. Hoyt May 2015 #135

Paul Volcker, years ago, 1979. Ikonoklast May 2015 #94

I've had the same thoughts in my mind for years StarzGuy May 2015 #47

...^ that 840high May 2015 #49

you haven't said near enough, StarzGuy Skittles May 2015 #54

the people say it "helps developing nations" are the ones benefiting from pimping our jobs offshore Skittles May 2015 #52

It helps poor people in rich countries to subsidize rich people in poor countries n/t eridani May 2015 #90

VERY WELL SAID Skittles May 2015 #121

Please spread the meme--thqnks n/t eridani May 2015 #137

It should anger you ibegurpard May 2015 #58

You can see the effects very quickly too. Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #61

others for the record nationalize the fed May 2015 #63

That last video is amazing. nt. polly7 May 2015 #66

Thanks for those videos. madfloridian May 2015 #70

K&R! n/t Michigan-Arizona May 2015 #65

And it all ends up in the pockets of the oligarchy AgingAmerican May 2015 #76

Another OP hit out of the park! haikugal May 2015 #85

. stonecutter357 May 2015 #86

. stonecutter357 May 2015 #87

From a 2009 article in the NYT: ohheckyeah May 2015 #88

This is the gist of it. kentuck May 2015 #101

Yep and ohheckyeah May 2015 #124

Now that is a very scary statement. Bookmarking that link. madfloridian May 2015 #120

You're welcome. ohheckyeah May 2015 #123

I'm past the anger stage, Alkene May 2015 #93

Corporate Democrats are licking their chops at the chance to ship millions of jobs to Vietnam whereisjustice May 2015 #96

On raising the boats ~ TBF May 2015 #97

We can't compete with third world shantytown dwellers who are forced to work for pennies mb999 May 2015 #98

I'm taking your word for it on this free trade shit, DU. redruddyred May 2015 #102

The logic of these massive trade deals is exactly backwards. DirkGently May 2015 #108

Well, if that were really the reason, it wouldn't be without merit. malthaussen May 2015 #110

It's a finite planet The2ndWheel May 2015 #112

"simply being an American isn't going to get you anything. We're not special." madfloridian May 2015 #116

Exactly The2ndWheel May 2015 #118

It is very sad because we could use our trade to lift all boats. raouldukelives May 2015 #114

2006 Obama knew there would be "losers" in a "globalized economy." Not be "bloodless" process. madfloridian May 2015 #117

So if he knew then that Free Trade was a scam d_legendary1 May 2015 #119

we works for THEM now Skittles May 2015 #127

According to the scumbag Darrell Issa... americannightmare May 2015 #125

Well... madfloridian May 2015 #140

K & R !!! Thespian2 May 2015 #136

KICK NYC_SKP May 2015 #138

We should do like Canada - charge royalties. kentuck May 2015 #139

Huge K&R "Don't insult our intelligence." woo me with science May 2015 #150

If this was even the case nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #151

K & R ...and reposting that video of Hillary. It's important we hold her feet to the fire on TPP. L0oniX Jun 2015 #152

Kick. Luminous Animal Jun 2015 #153