General Discussion

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)

45. But, advertising in favor of pot legalisation is NOT hate speech.

Reply to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #30)

Wed Apr 22, 2015, 04:01 PM

Apr 2015

It does not single out a race, religion or ethnic group as a target.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

90 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Judge Rules MTA Must Run ‘Killing Jews Is Worship’ Ad on Buses, Subways [View all] Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP

Are you a believer in free speech, or only acceptable speech? guillaumeb Apr 2015 #1

Sorry, the concept of freedom of expression is always relative. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #6

sex with a minor is illegal. But the age of majority varies by country. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #8

Just as certain language and rhetoric is considered Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #15

You are correct. Charlie Hebdo's racist nonsense was not guillaumeb Apr 2015 #22

We know 'la charmante' Marine and her 'papa ours' very well, thanks. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #25

Quebecois par naissance, mais j'habite aux EU. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #36

On the knife edge, but I'll wager that if you asked the Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #41

racist in the same way as Reagan was racist guillaumeb Apr 2015 #68

Nor an absolute; which is why rational people hold varying opinions on its spectrum. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #7

How is pushing murder of someone else, freedom of speech? Rex Apr 2015 #12

^^^AMEN to that^^^! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #19

I can't believe they are going to allow this. nt Rex Apr 2015 #28

As I said up thread, freedom of expression ad absurdum... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #29

you are confusing propaganda with reality guillaumeb Apr 2015 #21

So how is propaganda calling for the death of Jews, not hate speech? Rex Apr 2015 #27

When anti-Semitic propaganda is paid for by a Jew, guillaumeb Apr 2015 #38

I would say imo it needs to stop when it comes to public paid for transportation? Rex Apr 2015 #44

Voilà la bonne réponse ! There's the right answer! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #47

"Never said anything about banning it" jberryhill Apr 2015 #51

Okay so when someone comes along and replaces the word 'Jew' with XYZ Rex Apr 2015 #60

Especially since the music video being "quoted" never says "Jew" Scootaloo Apr 2015 #61

I don't think any political ads Oilwellian Apr 2015 #63

'Treating speech equally'...well, there's this from Seattle. As LittleBlue so pertinently asks: Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #62

an interesting, free market solution. I like it. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #69

Start by asking the religioius clerics who preach that LGBT people should be killed. They do this. Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #88

I believe... Chan790 Apr 2015 #72

Do you believe if there was an anti-Christian ad on a public transit, it would be treated the same still_one Apr 2015 #78

In the US, no, it would not be run. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #84

I think you are right still_one Apr 2015 #89

Somewhere, I see 'hate speech' in this. immoderate Apr 2015 #2

No kidding... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #4

Hate speech from Pam Geller? Scurrilous Apr 2015 #87

For a freedom to be meaningful, it must extend to both the absurd and the extreme. appal_jack Apr 2015 #3

In nations where this kind of incendiary language has caused wars costing millions of lives, Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #5

How many of those nations had robust free speech protections prior to said tragedies? appal_jack Apr 2015 #83

How much money does the MTA bring in from advertising on busses and trains? surrealAmerican Apr 2015 #9

Sounds like a plan - or they could adopt the French method of mediation... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #11

That's an odd way you phrased it... Oktober Apr 2015 #10

Guess I should have rolled out this thing again for the sarcasm-challenged... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #13

I want to see ads on NCY buses that say "Pamela Geller is a hateful bigot" cali Apr 2015 #14

Now, that would be interesting. Do you think the judge Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #17

Fuck yeah davidpdx Apr 2015 #76

Hamas MTV? Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #16

I sure do miss Yo! Hamas MTV Raps frylock Apr 2015 #32

LOL snooper2 Apr 2015 #85

I miss the game shows, like Remote Control Detonator. Dr. Strange Apr 2015 #73

My favorite category was Dead Or Israeli Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #75

Somebody needs to get to work on those KamaAina Apr 2015 #18

Somebody will see to it...but why allow the public square to be polluted Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #20

It's that darned First Amendment. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #30

But, advertising in favor of pot legalisation is NOT hate speech. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #45

The First Amendment doesn't have a "hate speech" exception. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #52

Not the case in the nations which lived through the Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #53

I hear you, but that's not how it is here. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #64

Major cultural difference between the no-holds-barred Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #67

Good. 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #23

Sorry? Are you bringing up some jingoistic, 'Murca, fuck yeah!!!!! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #26

I like how you avoided everything I said and focused on icons 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #34

And, all Muslims are not Hamas or ISIS sympathizers Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #39

Where did I say anything about "All Muslims"? Go ahead point it out. 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #40

Please read more closely: Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #42

Stop dodging my question, I don't give a damn about anything else you have to say. 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #43

Do it yourself, since you persist in putting words into my text which aren't there. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #46

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #48

You don't know the meaning of "literally," do you? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #31

Ooops! I also said "reincarnation"... 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #37

teh NAZIS!!12 frylock Apr 2015 #33

If I were the judge, I think I'd have to make the same decision tishaLA Apr 2015 #24

Here's some interesting input by LittleBlue. As a judge how would Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #56

I think the appeals court was wrong nt tishaLA Apr 2015 #65

Thanks for answering. Might this go all the way to the SCOTUS? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #66

More about Pamela Geller Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #35

I love Cali's suggestion up thread davidpdx Apr 2015 #77

Court: Anti-Israel ad can be barred from Metro buses LittleBlue Apr 2015 #49

Good find, LittleBlue. Hate speech of whatever ilk Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #50

Funny how that works, isn't it? arcane1 Apr 2015 #54

They exist simultaneously in two different federal court districts metalbot Apr 2015 #80

They even exist simultaneously on the same court Jim Lane Apr 2015 #86

Oh, joy. I have to see this stupid crap around the city now? stevenleser Apr 2015 #55

More of Pamela Geller's handiwork! Enjoy! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #58

Just tweeted a response to her... stevenleser Apr 2015 #57

Well done. Not that she'll pay the least bit of attention. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #59

People should be outraged by Hamas' genocidal fantasy tritsofme Apr 2015 #70

As an NYC resident, I expect these ads to get ye olde vandalism treatment - LiberalElite Apr 2015 #71

Good, waste her and her rabid followers' money. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #74

For people who would not dream of killing Jews fadedrose Apr 2015 #79

'Stirring the pot is what it is.' That's what hate speech is intended to do. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #81

No one will benefit fadedrose Apr 2015 #82

It says pro-Israel group treestar Apr 2015 #90