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In reply to the discussion: Hillary's electability is largely political myth at this point [View all]rury
(1,021 posts)193. I am one of those African-Americans who will not
support her for many reasons, ESPECIALLY the racial undertones of her nasty 2008 campaign. She and Bill can go hang out with their favorite people. That would be the neocon Bu$hes, their racist PUMAS from 2008 and Hillary's "hardworking white Americans" she claimed to represent.
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We have only one candidate running so far. Those polls will change as soon as other Candidates
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#18
Goldman-Sachs and Wall Street are hedging their bets hoping (paying) for a Clinton v Bush race.
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#177
Ghouliani declined to run because HRC would have whupped him and he wanted ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#14
I am not familiar with that race so it wouldn't be fair for me to comment.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#99
Rudi's poll ratings were in the low 20s at that time. His political career was over. Which is why he
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#21
Note this was the pre 911 Rudy, who announced his divorce to the media before his wife
karynnj
Apr 2015
#81
Based on the fact that she is popular among rank and file Democratic voters
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#4
For the 2008 primary, her polls ended up slightly higher than they were at this stage
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#50
"she's been out of the public eye for a few years now" was laughable even without your OP
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#85
I have heard Bernie several times and appreciate his voice for the voiceless
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#186
The MediCal I get as a consequence of the ACA which expanded Medicaid to single indigent adults is.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#185
Being undecided over a year before a primary is not a radical, hateful position.
AlbertCat
Apr 2015
#95
She's the only candidate running right now. How can anyone state who their candidates are until
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#27
'We are still in the exploratory committee phase'. Thanks, that I knew, he has not formally
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#154
I read it, and it just invalidates polls because it doesn't agree with the OPs
still_one
Apr 2015
#133
Good point, and I agree it is more than name recognition. However, I also think that once a
still_one
Apr 2015
#208
So iow, Bernie doesn't have enough money. And that, right there, is the problem.
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#29
Dems need to make this a huge issue in this campaign. For two billion, what are they buying?
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#157
Why are you asking that question, you know the answer surely. We the people will give him what we
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#161
People were not aware of the poisonous influence of Special Interest money when Dean
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#167
At this point in the 2008 race, she had a 30 point lead on the rest of the field.
jeff47
Apr 2015
#54
No, polling data shows squat, because it's impossible to be accurate this early.
jeff47
Apr 2015
#68
No, she didn't; perhaps you're thinking of 2006, ie the equivalent of 2014?
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#98
All I know is what the polls are saying now, and your assessment is counter to those polls. So are
still_one
Apr 2015
#30
We will see, but the premise of the OP that Hillary is unelectable does NOT correlate with the polls
still_one
Apr 2015
#39
Dodging the point again? The statement that polls this far out are meaningless is not
merrily
Apr 2015
#183
It was very close. She could have won but Obama and his campaign were just too good.
DCBob
Apr 2015
#42
And her campaign was bad enough to blow a 30 point lead, not to mention all the other
merrily
Apr 2015
#44
Meh. She stayed in the race well beyond the point at which she had any possiblity of winning.
merrily
Apr 2015
#53
No, not only the caucus states by any means, though I do recall her saying, to Texans, that
merrily
Apr 2015
#62
being the presumed favorite this far in advance is rarely predictive of success
reddread
Apr 2015
#40
It works pretty well for the Republican primaries; Democratic ones were messier
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#82
Myths runs wild here, we have to continue to debunked the talking points.
Thinkingabout
Apr 2015
#47
That would all make sense if her presumptive Republican posters were crushing her in the polls.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#76
But they have an agenda of trying to amplify the "importance" of polls, when they aren't meaningful
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#100
So? Ever hear of Ronald Reagan? He tried and failed twice. We didn't stop him the 3rd and 4th times.
pnwmom
Apr 2015
#113
Actually, if I may, it was NOT a cakewalk for her in New York. NOT IN THE LEAST.
calimary
Apr 2015
#104
Great Post. Her negatives > reasons to support her. She's the Media Darling, selected FOR us. FTS
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#108
She has the best Favorability/Unfavorability ratings of all the candidates...
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#117
The thing that is important to remember is how it will impact the primaries.
Major Hogwash
Apr 2015
#160
The MEDIA wants another Bush vs Clinton battle with Bush winning this time....
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2015
#114
Agree in the horse race aspect but Hillary is kicking and will kick his candy ass.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#123
Everyone has heard of "Reagan Democrats" but nobody wants to talk about "Clinton Republicans"...
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2015
#135
America isn't a right wing nation and the further right they go the better for us.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#137
The funny thing is everyone knew Pappy Bush was too much of a wimp to oppose them.
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2015
#141
Yeah, he was much more malleable than Bush ll which turned out to be a bad thing for the nation.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#144
And AGAIN, Corporate Amerika wins, and we all lose, no matter who wins that "horse race"...
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#128
And with another Democrat winning, we might get more than Medi Cal (Single Payer!)
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#148
I support single payer but we couldn't get it when we had the House and sixty Democratic senators.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#149
She's not running to be in office now, but in 2016. Republicans haven't won congress yet then!
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#150
The way the House is gerrymandered it is going to be some time before we control it again.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#153
Really does feel like you have to get Wall Street's blessing all right.
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2015
#142
Or with Clinton winning, the banksters win either way. This is WHY the media has selected her.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#124
If the media was really independent the Republicans would get caught in their lies.
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2015
#145
It is just spin from the corporatists who want to eliminate all primary candidates
betterdemsonly
Apr 2015
#122
Polls are a snapshot of what the public thinks, and right now they think she is the most electable.
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2015
#129
Where are the polls measuring how someone like Sanders or Warren does against these candidates?
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#152
From Real Clear Politics, Clinton is blowing everybody away by double digits.
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2015
#155
History shows us this is meaningless. You're just sinking in to realclearpolitics RW agenda...
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#159
History tells me it is a snap shot of the race now. Assuming it's useless is wishful thinking
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2015
#163
Given that it has been shown to be VERY inaccurate in the past as shown by history...
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#166
Yep, it is understood that social issues HRC can talk about and not PO the corporate elites...
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#175
I think more than previous elections, Democrats are increasingly resenting candidates PUSHED on them
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#168