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In reply to the discussion: Hillary's electability is largely political myth at this point [View all]Prism
(5,815 posts)11. For now
It's early polling, and she's been out of the public eye for a few years now. Once the campaign begins in earnest, things will shift.
I just don't think incredibly early polling is a reliable indicator of future performance.
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We have only one candidate running so far. Those polls will change as soon as other Candidates
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#18
Goldman-Sachs and Wall Street are hedging their bets hoping (paying) for a Clinton v Bush race.
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#177
Ghouliani declined to run because HRC would have whupped him and he wanted ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#14
I am not familiar with that race so it wouldn't be fair for me to comment.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#99
Rudi's poll ratings were in the low 20s at that time. His political career was over. Which is why he
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#21
Note this was the pre 911 Rudy, who announced his divorce to the media before his wife
karynnj
Apr 2015
#81
Based on the fact that she is popular among rank and file Democratic voters
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#4
For the 2008 primary, her polls ended up slightly higher than they were at this stage
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#50
"she's been out of the public eye for a few years now" was laughable even without your OP
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#85
I have heard Bernie several times and appreciate his voice for the voiceless
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#186
The MediCal I get as a consequence of the ACA which expanded Medicaid to single indigent adults is.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#185
Being undecided over a year before a primary is not a radical, hateful position.
AlbertCat
Apr 2015
#95
She's the only candidate running right now. How can anyone state who their candidates are until
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#27
'We are still in the exploratory committee phase'. Thanks, that I knew, he has not formally
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#154
I read it, and it just invalidates polls because it doesn't agree with the OPs
still_one
Apr 2015
#133
Good point, and I agree it is more than name recognition. However, I also think that once a
still_one
Apr 2015
#208
So iow, Bernie doesn't have enough money. And that, right there, is the problem.
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#29
Dems need to make this a huge issue in this campaign. For two billion, what are they buying?
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#157
Why are you asking that question, you know the answer surely. We the people will give him what we
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#161
People were not aware of the poisonous influence of Special Interest money when Dean
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#167
At this point in the 2008 race, she had a 30 point lead on the rest of the field.
jeff47
Apr 2015
#54
No, polling data shows squat, because it's impossible to be accurate this early.
jeff47
Apr 2015
#68
No, she didn't; perhaps you're thinking of 2006, ie the equivalent of 2014?
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#98
All I know is what the polls are saying now, and your assessment is counter to those polls. So are
still_one
Apr 2015
#30
We will see, but the premise of the OP that Hillary is unelectable does NOT correlate with the polls
still_one
Apr 2015
#39
Dodging the point again? The statement that polls this far out are meaningless is not
merrily
Apr 2015
#183
It was very close. She could have won but Obama and his campaign were just too good.
DCBob
Apr 2015
#42
And her campaign was bad enough to blow a 30 point lead, not to mention all the other
merrily
Apr 2015
#44
Meh. She stayed in the race well beyond the point at which she had any possiblity of winning.
merrily
Apr 2015
#53
No, not only the caucus states by any means, though I do recall her saying, to Texans, that
merrily
Apr 2015
#62
being the presumed favorite this far in advance is rarely predictive of success
reddread
Apr 2015
#40
It works pretty well for the Republican primaries; Democratic ones were messier
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2015
#82
Myths runs wild here, we have to continue to debunked the talking points.
Thinkingabout
Apr 2015
#47
That would all make sense if her presumptive Republican posters were crushing her in the polls.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#76
But they have an agenda of trying to amplify the "importance" of polls, when they aren't meaningful
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#100
So? Ever hear of Ronald Reagan? He tried and failed twice. We didn't stop him the 3rd and 4th times.
pnwmom
Apr 2015
#113
Actually, if I may, it was NOT a cakewalk for her in New York. NOT IN THE LEAST.
calimary
Apr 2015
#104
Great Post. Her negatives > reasons to support her. She's the Media Darling, selected FOR us. FTS
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#108
She has the best Favorability/Unfavorability ratings of all the candidates...
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#117
The thing that is important to remember is how it will impact the primaries.
Major Hogwash
Apr 2015
#160
The MEDIA wants another Bush vs Clinton battle with Bush winning this time....
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2015
#114
Agree in the horse race aspect but Hillary is kicking and will kick his candy ass.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#123
Everyone has heard of "Reagan Democrats" but nobody wants to talk about "Clinton Republicans"...
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2015
#135
America isn't a right wing nation and the further right they go the better for us.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#137
The funny thing is everyone knew Pappy Bush was too much of a wimp to oppose them.
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2015
#141
Yeah, he was much more malleable than Bush ll which turned out to be a bad thing for the nation.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#144
And AGAIN, Corporate Amerika wins, and we all lose, no matter who wins that "horse race"...
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#128
And with another Democrat winning, we might get more than Medi Cal (Single Payer!)
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#148
I support single payer but we couldn't get it when we had the House and sixty Democratic senators.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#149
She's not running to be in office now, but in 2016. Republicans haven't won congress yet then!
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#150
The way the House is gerrymandered it is going to be some time before we control it again.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#153
Really does feel like you have to get Wall Street's blessing all right.
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2015
#142
Or with Clinton winning, the banksters win either way. This is WHY the media has selected her.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#124
If the media was really independent the Republicans would get caught in their lies.
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2015
#145
It is just spin from the corporatists who want to eliminate all primary candidates
betterdemsonly
Apr 2015
#122
Polls are a snapshot of what the public thinks, and right now they think she is the most electable.
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2015
#129
Where are the polls measuring how someone like Sanders or Warren does against these candidates?
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#152
From Real Clear Politics, Clinton is blowing everybody away by double digits.
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2015
#155
History shows us this is meaningless. You're just sinking in to realclearpolitics RW agenda...
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#159
History tells me it is a snap shot of the race now. Assuming it's useless is wishful thinking
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2015
#163
Given that it has been shown to be VERY inaccurate in the past as shown by history...
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#166
Yep, it is understood that social issues HRC can talk about and not PO the corporate elites...
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#175
I think more than previous elections, Democrats are increasingly resenting candidates PUSHED on them
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#168