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In reply to the discussion: Affleck wanted slave-owning ancestor censored from PBS program [View all]ND-Dem
(4,571 posts)68. I probably *could* find some homeless person whose ancestors we're (sic) slave owners.
as to where their privilege got lost: maybe they were the masters' slaves, and also coincidentally his children, and never had any privilege in the first place.
maybe the family was ruined in the civil war, since in addition to losing the war, most slave owners were in debt to eastern banks up to their eyeballs (the real slave wealth was made in the north, or in England -- but still made on sweated slave labor).
Lehman Brothers...recently admitted their part in the business of slavery...JPMorgan Chase recently admitted their companys links to slavery... New York Life Insurance Company... also took part in slavery...N M Rothschild & Sons Bank in London was linked to slavery...Norfolk Southern also has a history in the slave trade....USA Today has found that their own parent company, E.W. Scripps and Gannett, has had links to the slave trade....Wachovia Corporation (now owned by Wells Fargo) has apologized for its ties to slavery...FleetBoston evolved from an earlier financial institution, Providence Bank, founded by John Brown who was a slave trader and owned ships used to transport enslaved Africans....CSX used slave labor to construct portions of some U.S. rail lines...The New York merchant bank of James and William Brown, currently known as Brown Bros. Harriman, owned hundreds of enslaved Africans and financed the cotton economy by lending millions to southern planters, merchants and cotton brokers...Brooks Brothers...got their start selling slave clothing...
http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/08/26/17-major-companies-never-knew-benefited-slavery/
http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/08/26/17-major-companies-never-knew-benefited-slavery/
but some slave owners did just fine, and passed on wealth down the generations to the present time. For example, Teddy Roosevelt's family.
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and it's pretty easy to trace teddy's family's privilege down to the present day.
and some of it was built on slavery -- not just once, but several times over.
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Go back far enough, and there are probably at least one of everything in there.
malthaussen
Apr 2015
#6
I am having a hard time understanding why we need a documentary on Ben Affleck's ancestors
Bjorn Against
Apr 2015
#8
I don't mind if celebrities don't want to go on shows like this; but if they do & pretend
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#14
that *is* part of his ancestry, very close ancestry, whether he "identifies" or not.
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#20
He's the one who clearly feels some sort of guilt about his ancestors, which is dumb
whathehell
Apr 2015
#28
He agreed to be part of the show. At least one other famous guest had a slave owning ancestor
whathehell
Apr 2015
#27
But how would you have intimate information about Afleck?..It's called a "typo"
whathehell
Apr 2015
#80
The smear is that that fact represents some sort of genetic character flaw
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Apr 2015
#19
please show me where the cumberbatch family's slave-owning ancestry is labeled as a
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#31
I said nothing of the sort, I don't think you ever mentioned Cumberbatch
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Apr 2015
#43
Unless you hold yourself as the final court of all ancestral sins that doesn't refer to you
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Apr 2015
#62
As opposed to pretending Gen X'ers are deriving any direct benefit from slavery?
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Apr 2015
#67
I probably *could* find some homeless person whose ancestors we're (sic) slave owners.
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#68
Please point out where I say the kennedys are "bad folks". I don't know anything about
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#45
Except for the person who says "Americans usually can't..." who oddly enough, always seems
LanternWaste
Apr 2015
#84
I have no idea what you're talking about. Affleck had slave-owning ancestors = true.
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#40
why do you think I know louis gates' secret thoughts? the slave owner never made it
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#46
and the audience is free to understand that it's just a fairy tale without much relation to
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#16
Do you see someone blaming Ben for what his ancestors did? I just see Ben wanting
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#34
You two seem to be having your own conversation about something I'm not privy to.
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#53
not that it's any of your business, but yes, i was. brain damage from recent illness =
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#74
I missed Hannah Bell getting banned, again???? Was there a gravedancing thead? nt
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#88
I think any gravedancing thread should link to this memorable thread--where ND-Dem showed
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#91
A confederacy of the white tears faction of DU...I count 3 banned trolls....
msanthrope
Apr 2015
#95
Very likely. The more relevant question to me is how many inherited from the slave owners.
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#58
Very true. Especially since being mixed was something that would be kept hidden for generations.
Chathamization
Apr 2015
#65