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lovemydog

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26. Thanks Jamaal510. I'm also trying to learn more about it.

Thu Apr 16, 2015, 03:12 AM

Apr 2015

You might want to check out the Elizabeth Warren video in this thread as well. She seems to shred it to pieces. Someone suggested on another thread that they would like to see Obama and Warren debate it in public. That's what I'd like to see too!

I was woefully ignorant about it until I started reading more about it this evening. I'm just beginning to learn more about it. Sadly, I've seen very little here at DU other than vehement opposition, without really stating much of anything else. I've asked a few times for what might be positive about it, as I generally support President Obama. Yet I also take very seriously what the critics like Warren, Sanders et al are saying regarding their opposition.

From what I've read here, Paul Krugman has given it a thumbs down, but has also said it's not a big deal. I'm kind of surprised he would say that, because from what I've read from some critics here it's a huge deal. Now I'm trying to figure out why some say it's a huge deal and others say it's not a big deal, lol.

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Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Pros and Cons [View all] lovemydog Apr 2015 OP

Pros: lovemydog Apr 2015 #1

that is not a fact. It's a projection from the most biased of sources. n/t cali Apr 2015 #35

Cons: lovemydog Apr 2015 #2

This would be much easier if it wasn't SECRET.... pipoman Apr 2015 #3

LOL, very true! lovemydog Apr 2015 #9

Obstacles: lovemydog Apr 2015 #4

This is one of the major reasons I stand against the TPP davidpdx Apr 2015 #29

It also reminds me of how the music industry lovemydog Apr 2015 #33

LOL davidpdx Apr 2015 #36

Next Steps: lovemydog Apr 2015 #5

They Haven't Honored The "Pros" Since NAFTA... WillyT Apr 2015 #6

I hear you WillyT. lovemydog Apr 2015 #10

The old rising tide lifts all boats arguement, except it doesn't. Corporations get rich, & workers peacebird Apr 2015 #12

What if it lifts the boats for other people in other countries? lovemydog Apr 2015 #15

Hi doglover, this is my point. Corporations are taking jobs whereever they can find the lowest pay peacebird Apr 2015 #16

Hi peacebird. That doesn't seem like a good thing to me either. lovemydog Apr 2015 #18

Note how even Indian workers here don't like how H-1B program works in this report... cascadiance Apr 2015 #27

Here they frequently live 4 to a small apartment because their wages are so low they can't afford peacebird Apr 2015 #30

Outgoing receipts are not well liked by most countries davidpdx Apr 2015 #31

That is essentially what has happened over the past 25 years. pampango Apr 2015 #32

If your boat has a hole in it Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #24

http://www.cristinagrajalesinc.com/images/upload/pieces_229_1_2.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #7

What if it actually gets more people fed, lovemydog Apr 2015 #11

What will happen is American wages will continue to stagnat or drop. Our cost of living is higher peacebird Apr 2015 #13

Thanks. The big corporations play a game of three card monty. lovemydog Apr 2015 #17

If you don't know very much about it, I'm curious about why you sound so much like a DC staffer. hedda_foil Apr 2015 #19

Please read my other posts in this thread. I'm trying to learn more about it. lovemydog Apr 2015 #21

As the treaty is secret and will remain secret after enactment Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #38

The above was written by Kimberly-Amadeo lovemydog Apr 2015 #8

Con nationalize the fed Apr 2015 #14

Highly recommended. Folks, please watch this Elizabeth Warren 8 minute clip. lovemydog Apr 2015 #20

Well, to he honest, they can sue (not necessarily win) for alleged violations of international trade Hoyt Apr 2015 #37

thanks for catapulting the propaganda. got a copy of the actual agreement to show us? nt msongs Apr 2015 #22

No I don't. Do you? lovemydog Apr 2015 #23

Good thread. Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #25

Thanks Jamaal510. I'm also trying to learn more about it. lovemydog Apr 2015 #26

Wafting between "it is good for Americans" and "Do you care more about Americans djean111 Apr 2015 #28

Well I know this. Savannahmann Apr 2015 #34

I oppose the TPP because: lovemydog Apr 2015 #39