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Orsino

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116. With respect, this is corporatist/bankster spin.

Sun May 6, 2012, 02:19 PM

May 2012

As an alternative to homelessness, squatting is neither unreasonable nor execrable. Anyone in a similar situation might make a similar decision.

Where the law disagrees, the law is an ass.

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No Vacancies: Squatters Move In [View all] xchrom Apr 2012 OP

She made a commitment to squat in a house? Are you kidding me? dkf Apr 2012 #1

... xchrom Apr 2012 #3

the banksters raped this country 2pooped2pop Apr 2012 #4

exactly dana_b Apr 2012 #5

If the house is owned by the city, does that change this? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #6

Not much 2pooped2pop Apr 2012 #8

If people do not pay their taxes, they get their property seized. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #9

So what? It's better they do that then remain homeless and exposed to the elements. Zalatix Apr 2012 #14

Who is responsible if the house burns down due to faulty wiring? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #18

That could happen even if it's unoccupied. It could get burned down due to arson. Zalatix Apr 2012 #19

Who gets their pants sued off if a squatter comes to an unfortunate end in someone else's house. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #23

All the more reason to either tend to your property or give it up. Zalatix Apr 2012 #25

The city is hoarding houses? nt WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #74

What else do you call it? Zalatix Apr 2012 #79

It sounds like you are saying WinniSkipper Apr 2012 #80

not if they're rich, not for quite some time. there was a story about all the special deals in nyc HiPointDem Apr 2012 #66

There are some laws on the books in some states that cover this. I'm not sure, shraby Apr 2012 #7

Varies widely state to state ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #10

Yes bongbong Apr 2012 #11

dkf will just LOVE that such a law is in the books. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #21

heh. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #32

He was evicted from that house tammywammy Apr 2012 #34

You were actually serious when you wrote that? Really??? Zalatix Apr 2012 #13

How about your solution to the vacant housing/homelessness situation? Earth_First Apr 2012 #15

Save a 20% downpayment, same as our parents did. dkf Apr 2012 #26

Wow. proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #40

How did you do it? I bet you have a house. No? dkf Apr 2012 #44

And a job and a supportive family. proud2BlibKansan Apr 2012 #45

Everyone deserves a lot of things. Health and wealth and happiness. dkf Apr 2012 #47

It's almost impossible to OWN a house without a job Ken Burch Apr 2012 #63

Without structure there is chaos. dkf Apr 2012 #68

The way to promote working hard Ken Burch Apr 2012 #76

That actually isn't the tradition my parents passed down from their parents. dkf Apr 2012 #78

I think the consensus among classical apologists is that pride is the worst sin. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #89

"Sin" is now worshipped! The "sins" of greed, fraud, corruption, selfishness, covetousness, riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #92

Let me see if I understand this... KansDem May 2012 #111

The first time? Squatting on the Lower East Side. n/t Chan790 Apr 2012 #101

ROFLMFAO... SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #55

ROFLMAO! lonestarnot Apr 2012 #70

That's kind of easy to do when you have a job. If you don't have a job, there's your problem. nt Selatius Apr 2012 #81

there are many hard working people who don't have the opportunity to cali May 2012 #113

Is it "thievery" if you take something that someone has left abandoned on a sidewalk? KamaAina Apr 2012 #16

So the house next to my uncle's has not been lived in for years. dkf Apr 2012 #27

The building hasn't left the building. So yeah they can and they did! lonestarnot Apr 2012 #71

Where did it say the bank did not foreclose legally? badtoworse Apr 2012 #73

Well then you don't read. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #82

It's not there. badtoworse Apr 2012 #83

Ok so what now you're asking me to provide you with 50 million links? lonestarnot Apr 2012 #84

Not every foreclosure was illegal,... badtoworse Apr 2012 #86

If even one was bad and they stole one fucking house from one fucking American that's too many! lonestarnot Apr 2012 #93

The OP is about squatting, not foreclosures... badtoworse Apr 2012 #94

Yes my point is relevant. The first deed was that of the banksters for theft of homes. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #96

If the borrower defaults on the loan and the bank forecloses, that is not theft badtoworse Apr 2012 #98

"The only situation that would qualify as theft would be one where the bank foreclosed on a lonestarnot Apr 2012 #100

Fair enough. How does that justify the squatter? badtoworse Apr 2012 #102

If we are no longer secure in our land/property holdings, don't you think as Americans, we are going lonestarnot Apr 2012 #105

So that is your justification for a squatter stealing someone else's property? The Indians? badtoworse Apr 2012 #106

Would you prefer guillotines? lonestarnot May 2012 #110

Have a nice day. badtoworse May 2012 #114

:) lonestarnot May 2012 #115

In the case of a house, the answer is yes. badtoworse Apr 2012 #33

So with you, property trumps humanity. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #39

YEP! Rex Apr 2012 #42

Wait, what? Neofeudalism? KamaAina Apr 2012 #46

Oh...sorry...didn't mean to aim that at you thenl. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #51

So a bike on the street is free for the taking? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2012 #97

How long has it been there? KamaAina Apr 2012 #99

In DC, yup 72:00:01 after posting a query of abandonment. Chan790 Apr 2012 #103

My neighbor is a big timber company. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2012 #85

False equivalency KamaAina Apr 2012 #87

Because this isn't theft. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #22

Because I believe in private property. I guess you don't. dkf Apr 2012 #28

It's different when someone is a victim of the class system Ken Burch Apr 2012 #35

So who gets to decide when it's OK to take someone's property and when it isn't? badtoworse Apr 2012 #36

They moved into a house that's the BANK's property now Ken Burch Apr 2012 #38

That didn't answer my question badtoworse Apr 2012 #48

I'm not sure who "it's up to"-but the banks are responsible for tricking too many people Ken Burch Apr 2012 #49

After reading your response, I am more thankful than ever for the 5th Amendment - nt. badtoworse Apr 2012 #53

Well, this is a forum for humane, progressive ideas Ken Burch Apr 2012 #54

So private ownership of property isn't progressive. Who knew! badtoworse Apr 2012 #56

You're just here as a Free Republic heckler...we've all picked up on that by now Ken Burch Apr 2012 #58

No, we won't. You're for the rich, I'm for the majority of the human race. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #59

General consensus is that banks do. Doesn't leave many options LanternWaste Apr 2012 #90

They don't have that option if you aren't in default badtoworse Apr 2012 #91

If you don't have legal title to something and you take it,... badtoworse Apr 2012 #31

The article gives no information about them Ken Burch Apr 2012 #50

Why? Because once respect for private property disappears, we're on a very slippery slope. badtoworse Apr 2012 #52

If you tie freedom to property, you create a society Ken Burch Apr 2012 #61

As a country, we have existed for well over 200 years with strong property rights badtoworse Apr 2012 #62

Property rights do NOT make you free Ken Burch Apr 2012 #64

The absence of property rights won't make you free either badtoworse Apr 2012 #72

I'm 51 and thanks for your condescension. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #75

You raised the question of freedom, I didn't badtoworse Apr 2012 #77

What a joke. Rex Apr 2012 #41

I wonder lunatica Apr 2012 #43

How about asking, 'how can we accuse a thug of thievery if do not hold sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #57

The Government needs to reopen psychiatric hospitals NOW!!! FrodosPet Apr 2012 #60

OMG. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #69

how can we accuse Rove as leading us into a criminal war if we do 70mph on the highway...? LanternWaste Apr 2012 #88

what the fuck is wrong with your response? Everything. cali May 2012 #112

With respect, this is corporatist/bankster spin. Orsino May 2012 #116

Romney should be able to spare some accommodations since he thinks he's RKP5637 Apr 2012 #2

Better than the house rotting from vacancy. Houses need tenants. Liberal_in_LA Apr 2012 #12

Occupancy does not forestall rot due to age or environment. n/t cherokeeprogressive Apr 2012 #24

it does if the occupier heats it and does basic repairs. an unoccupied house degrades faster than HiPointDem Apr 2012 #67

True, but there's a fine line there bhikkhu Apr 2012 #37

My old roommate was way ahead of the curve on this KamaAina Apr 2012 #17

DURec KG Apr 2012 #20

So I sat in the car today, as my husband pumped gas and and I watched a man- BeHereNow Apr 2012 #29

Guerrilla Gardening EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #65

Who has legal title to the house? badtoworse Apr 2012 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Apr 2012 #95

But, some millionaire might lose some of their boarded up property. Chaos! The Midway Rebel Apr 2012 #104

"unemployed workers’ councils " <yay! upi402 Apr 2012 #107

+ 1 Thanks. NT Mc Mike Apr 2012 #108

If I lived in a neighborhood that had several empty houses, I would welcome squatters nadine_mn Apr 2012 #109