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RainDog

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45. In 1988, a DEA Administrative Judge MADE THE RULING
Sat May 5, 2012, 02:21 PM
May 2012

Judge Francis Young oversaw TWO YEARS worth of hearings on this issue and the Judge's recommendation was to remove cannabis from schedule I (no doctor may prescribe) to schedule II (doctors may prescribe.)

http://www.ccguide.org/young88.php

ONE PERSON, someone nominated to his position by Ronald Reagan, overturned the ruling. (John Lawn, who was Administrative Head of the DEA at that time.)

The Controlled Substances Act contains provisions that allows the DEA to remove something from the various drug schedules that does not require Congress - in fact, CONGRESS HAS LITTLE TO NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT DRUG SCHEDULES.

They created the Act to oversee the process. CONGRESS DOES NOT NEED TO BE INVOLVED, and rarely is involved.

So, honestly, your argument is ridiculous. Yes, Congress made the provision that others can reschedule drugs - that is, in fact, how resheduling hearings and petitions have commenced since the first one in 1975 on to the latest one. Congress has nothing to do with it.

Rec for a great article, but terribly naive; pharma and insurance and Lionessa May 2012 #1
This issue is not about pharma or insurance, but about perception. HuckleB May 2012 #2
Exactly. No one is touching this in their first term. Especially with high unemployment. FarLeftFist May 2012 #4
Always the bridesmaid never the bride.. Fumesucker May 2012 #8
+1. SammyWinstonJack May 2012 #22
Umm. Why the logical fallacy as a response? HuckleB May 2012 #27
At the federal level this issue has been stuck since at least the sixties.. Fumesucker May 2012 #42
No, the tide is already turning. The prudes will die off soon and this issue will resolve itself FarLeftFist May 2012 #36
Your generation.. Fumesucker May 2012 #43
totally agree with you on this -- also there's no putting the toothpaste back in the tube nashville_brook May 2012 #63
Exactly, it's always 'election season' somewhere. . sabrina 1 May 2012 #78
Really, you don't see how legal marijuana would effect the profits of all those I listed???? Lionessa May 2012 #7
Your post does not seem to be responding to my post. HuckleB May 2012 #26
I agree. Special interests, not the best interests of Americans RainDog May 2012 #46
Wait till after the election, please jmowreader May 2012 #3
Correct themonster May 2012 #6
But what about the '14 mid-terms? Fumesucker May 2012 #9
'16 will be a first term alc May 2012 #18
! KG May 2012 #19
heh! SammyWinstonJack May 2012 #23
+1 progressoid May 2012 #28
+2 nashville_brook May 2012 #68
That's not an acceptable answer re gay rights and it's not an acceptable answer for this one Occulus May 2012 #24
word. nashville_brook May 2012 #58
You are seriously insane. jmowreader May 2012 #81
If reclassification is within his purview, why not? DirkGently May 2012 #5
we'd all be surprised to see it b/c we've been conditioned to believe nothing can be done nashville_brook May 2012 #75
I think this would be one reason why. sofa king May 2012 #76
He should DEclassify it. Comrade Grumpy May 2012 #10
k&r n/t RainDog May 2012 #11
WILL NOT happen before elections. Probably won't happen after. Speck Tater May 2012 #12
K&R! CaliforniaPeggy May 2012 #13
Good luck getting people to admit that (n/t) a2liberal May 2012 #14
you expect leadership on this issue? what have you been smoking lol nt msongs May 2012 #15
Arguments like this make me laugh. Remember DADT and the way President Obama's cherokeeprogressive May 2012 #16
All he did was sign? A bill does not become law unless a President signs it treestar May 2012 #30
I'm not so sure about.... rppper May 2012 #17
it's a "freedom" issue for them. it's one of the attractions of Ron Paul for many nashville_brook May 2012 #83
This Has To Be Corrected By Legislative... KharmaTrain May 2012 #20
The DEA was created "by fiat" Executive Order in 1973, by your reasoning it could be rescinded nashville_brook May 2012 #21
You're wrong. RainDog May 2012 #47
Where are the millions of people demanding nonstop that this happen? randome May 2012 #25
the rescheduling would affect both medical uses and criminalization nashville_brook May 2012 #32
The millions of people have voted to change the law RainDog May 2012 #48
Oh, please. randome May 2012 #49
Wow. You are really uninformed about this issue RainDog May 2012 #50
The reason this issue has taken so long to address RainDog May 2012 #51
What I've always said. randome May 2012 #65
So you choose to ignore actual voters for laws RainDog May 2012 #69
Now you're gettin' nasty. randome May 2012 #71
I am talking about legal medical marijuana RainDog May 2012 #72
So...no birthday gift from you this year? randome May 2012 #73
read the title of this thread RainDog May 2012 #74
This is like DADT and the public option treestar May 2012 #29
Congress gave the president authority to reschedule controlled substances nashville_brook May 2012 #31
Was the intent of Congress really to let the Executive Branch treestar May 2012 #33
yes, imagine the headlines: "Administrative action ends decades-long drug war" nashville_brook May 2012 #37
You've heard of Fox News? treestar May 2012 #41
FOX is not the only news. And, there's nothing the Dems can or SHOULD do to court them. nashville_brook May 2012 #57
But the point is that it would be widely reported and used treestar May 2012 #88
In 1988, a DEA Administrative Judge MADE THE RULING RainDog May 2012 #45
Except that it isn't. Drug scheduling is up to the AG. So is much of enforcement. DirkGently May 2012 #34
It reminds me of the budget one, people wanted to have the POTUS do something treestar May 2012 #35
That line of reasoning might work if Obama was being thwarted somehow. DirkGently May 2012 #38
Then he gets to choose what to enforce treestar May 2012 #40
at this point it's too politically risky NOT to end the crackdown. nashville_brook May 2012 #64
100% correct, yet the administration speaks out of both sides of its mouth on this issue. prefunk May 2012 #39
we're running out of hands :) nashville_brook May 2012 #56
Obama should fix everything. FSogol May 2012 #44
He could, but he needs money from special interests that like the prison state. Dragonfli May 2012 #52
Mitt Romney's position is worse RainDog May 2012 #53
Perhaps, we are nonetheless complicit in the ruined lives of many. Dragonfli May 2012 #54
This is a ridiculous statement RainDog May 2012 #55
You don't think we are responsible for the politicians we work hard to elect? Dragonfli May 2012 #59
you're ignoring the realities of being a citizen with interests beyond the personalities we elect... nashville_brook May 2012 #60
You'd think that would be axiomatic. But the allure of simplicity is strong. DirkGently May 2012 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Dragonfli May 2012 #62
we are arguing for the same thing RainDog May 2012 #66
Some dark, cloudy day I'm going to read something you wrote that I can really argue against. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #79
I would really go after this, but after the election marlakay May 2012 #67
The joke is that people who worked to create these bad laws RainDog May 2012 #70
Add another issue to your one issue screed. bluestate10 May 2012 #77
I don't think "one issue" or "screed" mean what you think they mean. DirkGently May 2012 #80
i love this new smear -- that any policy critique makes one a "single-issue voter." nashville_brook May 2012 #82
Obama is a conservative Doctor_J May 2012 #84
I beg to differ: Jamaal510 May 2012 #87
differ on which part? Doctor_J May 2012 #89
Gary Johnson just gained the Libertarian Party nomination RainDog May 2012 #85
I support the sentiment of this post but expect exactly zero movement limpyhobbler May 2012 #86
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