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beachbum bob

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1. not a chance.....hoping doesn't change reality

Thu Mar 26, 2015, 08:02 AM

Mar 2015

either Jeb or romney would easily win election if somehow democrats make a huge mistake on go this way....learn the lesson of failed democratic nominees from McGovern to Dukakis

and the effect of idealism that rather give america George W Bush then vote against their principles in NOT voting for Gore ,especially the florida nader voters.....

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Why Martin O'Malley & Elizabeth Warren Can Beat Any Repub, Including Walker, Bush, Paul and Cruz [View all] RiverLover Mar 2015 OP

not a chance.....hoping doesn't change reality beachbum bob Mar 2015 #1

"not a chance" is EXACTLY what I heard about Obama's chances in 2006. /nt RiverLover Mar 2015 #3

good point SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #22

But working will.... daleanime Mar 2015 #5

That's quite quite conservative--US problems haven't changed since the 1972? HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #6

That is exactly correct. eom JEB Mar 2015 #69

Kewl... 99Forever Mar 2015 #9

I think Jeb and Romney would give any Democrat a difficult run for the money LynneSin Mar 2015 #27

Then you need to get Warren or O'Malley to declare they are running. leftofcool Mar 2015 #2

It would be politically astute for either of them the wait until AFTER Hillary formally announces. RiverLover Mar 2015 #4

Good point..... daleanime Mar 2015 #19

Give Warren proper funding and she will kick anybody's ass. bemildred Mar 2015 #7

+1,000 Scuba Mar 2015 #14

And would draw more people to the polls.... daleanime Mar 2015 #20

That's the thing. There are a lot of voters our there with nothing to be FOR. nt bemildred Mar 2015 #21

Exactly, we need some one people will be excited to vote for.... daleanime Mar 2015 #38

Yes she would. zeemike Mar 2015 #24

The third way does care about winning. Our problem is that even if the Republican candidate wins A Simple Game Mar 2015 #36

Right, control of the party is what matters, the source from which blessings flow. nt bemildred Mar 2015 #39

You notice something funny about your post? It works just as well without A Simple Game Mar 2015 #41

I try not to be too confrontational, hence the comma. nt bemildred Mar 2015 #42

No nothing confrontational at all. A Simple Game Mar 2015 #74

I do try. bemildred Mar 2015 #75

I certainly didn't mean my comment as criticism A Simple Game Mar 2015 #82

Yes, I know, not offended. nt bemildred Mar 2015 #83

Sadly, you're correct. The comma merely sublimates the common knowledge. A little. villager Mar 2015 #56

Yes Liberalynn Mar 2015 #26

The problem is no one "gives" candidates geek tragedy Mar 2015 #44

Sounds corrupt, doesn't it? bemildred Mar 2015 #45

Yes, but that's the world we live in. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #47

Perhaps we could think up some better alternative. bemildred Mar 2015 #55

I can think of a great many things that geek tragedy Mar 2015 #57

I think we can make it happen. nt bemildred Mar 2015 #58

A huge paradigm shift is needed in this country deutsey Mar 2015 #8

I would see Hillary steering the country back to Clinton era tax and economic ALBliberal Mar 2015 #23

Bill Clinton Was the last president to raise the taxes on the highest earners./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #66

Bill Clinton presided over a vibrant economy. This will bode well for Hillary's campaign ALBliberal Mar 2015 #79

I remember a post here a few years back - "No way Rand Paul can beat a Democrat candidate" DrDan Mar 2015 #10

In Kentucky? Someone said that? wow RiverLover Mar 2015 #12

yes - that was the Kentucky Senate election DrDan Mar 2015 #67

Anyone who suggests Kaine and Webb to me no longer has my ear. Both are to my right. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #11

I think he's only trying to stress that Hillary isn't our only option RiverLover Mar 2015 #13

It's a primary. Anyone who does not know Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #15

Recent News articles saying Hillary has NO competition in the primaries~ RiverLover Mar 2015 #16

And so you offer up those guys? To what end? What makes a challenger credible is support coupled Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #25

I didn't write this! And the guy who did ISN'T "offering" up anyone other than Warren & O'Malley. RiverLover Mar 2015 #32

I don't get it either...Kaine and Webb are well to Hillary's right.../NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #18

No kidding. The OP could not even be bothered to address the quotes from them. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #40

Webb was a good vehicle to get a Democrat who could beat George Allen but he's very conservative... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #43

The ruling class will never "allow" a " True peoples president".. ProudProg2u Mar 2015 #17

Would the ruling class be a majority? If so why do we want to change the rules where the Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #31

The "ruling class" are the 1 % or... ProudProg2u Mar 2015 #35

In 2014 there was only 36% of eligible voters who voted. There isn't any way 1% can Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #46

Have you ever asked them why the don't vote? zeemike Mar 2015 #50

In 2014 I am aware of only one Bush who was running and he did win. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #53

Well I don't buy the "I did not get my pony" argument. zeemike Mar 2015 #61

There was quiet a bit of difference in the time FDR became president and when Obama did. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #62

After a while people get tired of excuses. zeemike Mar 2015 #63

Yes, we get tired of excuses, this goes both ways. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #64

Well that is where we disagree. zeemike Mar 2015 #65

Since 64% is a majority sure it would make a difference. Some may feel it is a waste if time but Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #71

Well the point is that they don't want to see either of the two choices offered in office. zeemike Mar 2015 #72

OK, then we can just look past the non voters, they dont care who is elected. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #73

People will vote, if they really see a reason for it. sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #80

It sure does, women had to fight for the right to vote, blacks had to fight for the right to vote. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #81

Why Warren and O'Malley are no Barack Obama wyldwolf Mar 2015 #28

here's a magazine cover O'Malley is on wyldwolf Mar 2015 #29

It is oblivious you left out Hillary's name and we have found in poll after poll Hillary can Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #30

We need more than a candidate that just can "beat the Republicans"... cascadiance Mar 2015 #33

Part of the thread title included beat the Republicans so leaving out Hillary's name Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #52

She was also polling a lot better than anyone else against Republicans in 2008 too at this time... cascadiance Mar 2015 #60

I will play DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #68

I actually agree. They CAN beat any Republican but.. wyldwolf Mar 2015 #34

Integrity. Octafish Mar 2015 #37

If you are saying there should not be any connection with corporations then you will not have Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #49

That's one of the reasons I'm a Democrat. The Party once stood for the Little Guy. Octafish Mar 2015 #54

I understand what you are saying, right now campaign reform is not in the cards. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #59

I'd settle for a bright, young Liberal in Training...i.e. VP. Julian Castro libdem4life Mar 2015 #48

O'Malley is giving all indications that he is considering running. Elizabeth Warren has not still_one Mar 2015 #51

Martin O’Malley sounds like he’s running Fla Dem Mar 2015 #70

no question about it still_one Mar 2015 #84

Of course they can win. ijust think Hillary has a better chance. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #76

Could Be HassleCat Mar 2015 #77

If this happens, both Democrats and the average American will win big in 2016. Vincardog Mar 2015 #78