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Democrats used to stand for principles [View all] whereisjustice Mar 2015 OP
Principals run schools. MADem Mar 2015 #1
Sounds like you are telling us to leave and vote for another political party. Is that what you think whereisjustice Mar 2015 #4
They apparently don't need the Left. So the Left has taken them at their word and started selecting sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #8
Sooner or later... malokvale77 Mar 2015 #31
IMO, most Democratic politicians in office at this point are centrists. merrily Mar 2015 #52
Run candidates! Adrahil Mar 2015 #49
Really? That easy? bvar22 Mar 2015 #101
Yep-- every once in awhile the curtain has to be removed to save some Marr Mar 2015 #104
What's your alternative? Adrahil Mar 2015 #112
Simple. bvar22 Mar 2015 #114
Thank you. The meme that finding good candidates is my job is a fucking joke, anyway. merrily Mar 2015 #133
You've STARTED selecting and supporting your own Democrats? brooklynite Mar 2015 #63
Well, that's what we LEARNED. Who picked Christie for Governor of NJ, a BLUE STATE v the Dem sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #72
Buono was a bad candidate brooklynite Mar 2015 #75
Same goes for Florida...or ANY state. bvar22 Mar 2015 #117
"Third Wayers will be primaried" Oilwellian Mar 2015 #65
Obviously reading isn't your strong suit, either. It sounds like nothing of the sort. MADem Mar 2015 #10
Well, in Arkansas we found a great candidate for governor last year-- Bill Halter, Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #34
Well, you, and others like you, need to work your way up into the "fat cat" leadership. MADem Mar 2015 #35
You should take this up with my fellow Arkansan, Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #42
My point still stands. If your guy had critical mass, they couldn't pull any rug out from under him MADem Mar 2015 #43
The guy had been lieutenant governor, for crying out loud! Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #46
IMO, the Party should remain neutral in primaries. No thumbs on the scale. merrily Mar 2015 #54
Apparently, pre-primaries are just for weeding out candidates Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #110
I know, right? That talking point makes no sense. merrily Mar 2015 #132
I'm with you guys. bvar22 Mar 2015 #138
Where were his donors? MADem Mar 2015 #91
The objective is to get money OUT of politics, to STOP the buying of candidates, not to pour MORE sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #55
Have you not been reading what I write? MADem Mar 2015 #90
I've been reading what you wrote, bvar22 Mar 2015 #120
The "innocent" here is you. MADem Mar 2015 #131
Continuing an above "conversation". bvar22 Mar 2015 #139
Right back atcha. nt MADem Mar 2015 #143
"you need to work your way up into the "fat cat" leadership" bvar22 Mar 2015 #123
Oh really? Do you think Liz Warren was born a multi-millionaire? MADem Mar 2015 #130
That sounds exactly like how we got Mary Burke as our candidate Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #51
Kansas has been run like this too, MuseRider Mar 2015 #53
It seems as if the Arkansas Democratic Party just pushed the self-destruct button Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #60
Serious question ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #79
Probably by refusing to give him any backing if he did win Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #92
Then what's your answer? Adrahil Mar 2015 #113
Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #29
Wow--nasty accusation, that. And blatantly false. Nice smear job, though. MADem Mar 2015 #36
"...us liberals..." randome Mar 2015 #67
One thing I've noticed is that 99% of the folks here that are always breaking their arms patting Number23 Mar 2015 #93
I think you've hit it out of the park. MADem Mar 2015 #96
You did too, my friend! Number23 Mar 2015 #97
Youf last sentence nearly cost me a keyboard!! MADem Mar 2015 #98
Great point Andy823 Mar 2015 #99
Mmmm hmmmm! MADem Mar 2015 #95
We did that, in the mid terms. Didn't you notice, Liberal groups and orgs and supporters across the sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #6
Whining about Clinton isn't "doing it." MADem Mar 2015 #9
Progressive WON in the last election. Now if the leadership again refuses to hear the voters, sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #13
There's no way you can call the midterms a win. MADem Mar 2015 #16
You just don't see it. And that's what voters are talking about. It's like banging your head against sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #19
Who's 'blaming the voters?' MADem Mar 2015 #26
Doesn't see it, doesn't choose to see it, doesn't admit seeing it. Doesn't much matter which. merrily Mar 2015 #57
By your argument we ought to just abandon the election system Scootaloo Mar 2015 #24
No. I think people should fight FOR their candidates, rather than against the candidates of others. MADem Mar 2015 #25
Third Way, Bluedogs got hammered. malokvale77 Mar 2015 #33
Lots of candidates got hammered. MADem Mar 2015 #37
For someone chiding someone else on a grammatical error, you should realize that cui bono Mar 2015 #17
Sorry--you're wrong. There are "undeclared candidates" in this race, and you know it. MADem Mar 2015 #18
In a political race, once you declare you become a candidate, until then you are not one. cui bono Mar 2015 #27
Yeah, that's why Gallup and others do polls to find out how these "undeclared candidates" might MADem Mar 2015 #38
If all the Democratic Party has is HRC then they have nothing but fear of a Republican who is worse anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #39
Not sure what your point was, there. Primary season is a ways away. Have a nice day. nt MADem Mar 2015 #40
I know you don’t otherwise I would not have responded in the first place. Enjoy your day! anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #41
We do find our own candidates.. and are promptly told "they can't win" SomethingFishy Mar 2015 #102
PASSIVE. "Are promptly told..." -- and what do you do? Tug your forelock and say Yessir? MADem Mar 2015 #107
Even better than your first foray in this thread!! Number23 Mar 2015 #108
Well thanks--it's how I sincerely feel. I would love to see some "platform talk." MADem Mar 2015 #109
Thanks princiPLEs cilla4progress Mar 2015 #2
Thanks and yikes, fixed it. whereisjustice Mar 2015 #3
No worries cilla4progress Mar 2015 #66
Sounds like you listed some RW platform items. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #5
Lots and lots of Democrats for those things you first listed... Drunken Irishman Mar 2015 #7
The Sanders Agenda for America nationalize the fed Mar 2015 #11
A great agenda...that he can't implement if he can't win... brooklynite Mar 2015 #119
The good old days that never were. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #12
Yeah sure except for FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson and Carter and thousands of local and federal whereisjustice Mar 2015 #14
FDR had a terrible civil liberties record. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #71
So what are you doing on your local level, then? Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #105
You wouldn't believe how different things were before Nov. 22, 1963. Octafish Mar 2015 #23
That may be a matter of one's perception. merrily Mar 2015 #85
That is the big picture. That's also why I'm a Kennedy Democrat. Octafish Mar 2015 #89
Thanks. I never heard of that memo, either. merrily Mar 2015 #137
I find your historical whitewashing not just inaccurate, but deeply offensive YoungDemCA Mar 2015 #124
Do you remember Nov. 22, 1963? If not, how do you know what it was like to be ''deeply'' offended? Octafish Mar 2015 #128
So true. The OP demonstrates treestar Mar 2015 #69
This ^ ^ ^ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #142
K&R thank you for this tread ... Dragonfli Mar 2015 #15
K&R ReRe Mar 2015 #20
And now they stand for the 1% ... blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #21
K&R. JDPriestly Mar 2015 #22
There are tons of D's in Congress Jamaal510 Mar 2015 #28
Don't confuse an instant in time with the momentum for progress. Over the course of recent history whereisjustice Mar 2015 #30
The Congressional Progressive Caucus is the largest Democratic caucus within the Congress Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #48
Yet without the kind that folds and spins you got jack shit TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #50
And yet you think you need to explain to me that I also need money? What towering arrogance. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #56
I didn't pirate shit from you and don't know what this "community" of mine is. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #59
You are preaching to me that people need jobs even as you argue that those of us who seek equal Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #64
I never said any such thing. You are putting your words into my mouth. I've spit them out. whereisjustice Mar 2015 #61
You: "There would be no need for a special caucus if the Democratic Party hadn't steered away from Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #70
+1.n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #83
"You say there is no need for them. " - show me where I said this? Retract your misquote. You hijack whereisjustice Mar 2015 #84
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #82
It's easier to romanticize the Party of olden days ... that appeared to work ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #81
The Party may have "worked" back then.... YoungDemCA Mar 2015 #125
Some did, but... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #32
There you go again, introducing facts into an attempt to whitewash history YoungDemCA Mar 2015 #122
This is why all the emails just say "The Republicans did something awful. Send cash." Policy? Ha! Scuba Mar 2015 #44
I'm so sick of those emails. RiverLover Mar 2015 #45
Keep unsubscribing. Eventually, it works. merrily Mar 2015 #141
So true. They should find popular policies like raising the minimum wage lovemydog Mar 2015 #136
Ageed. 99Forever Mar 2015 #47
Who needs principles? Android3.14 Mar 2015 #58
With little else, the half-wit pretends a bumper-sticker is someone's premise, and argues against th LanternWaste Mar 2015 #116
Sorry, I disagree that Democratic principles have changed. randome Mar 2015 #62
Woodward never was a Democrat MFrohike Mar 2015 #111
A party is a cobbling together of like minded treestar Mar 2015 #68
cobbling together of like minded people...that implies shared values HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #73
You are creating a division between people treestar Mar 2015 #74
Yes HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #78
Make these people more famous the masses need to know their names. Instead treestar Mar 2015 #86
I don't think the party's principals have changed. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #76
Principles become inconvienent incumbrances to ambitious politicians. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #77
Holding to principle -seriously- interferes with triangulation HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #87
"Don't let the principled be the enemy of the expedient." Maedhros Mar 2015 #126
How about honesty and transparency?...nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #80
It isn't just Hillary Jim Beard Mar 2015 #88
So quit crying if you don't want Hillary, and Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #94
lmfao - Let me translate your tough guy sound bite to what you really mean: whereisjustice Mar 2015 #100
ok...fine...you win Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #103
Very good Jim Beard Mar 2015 #106
I'm satisfied with the Democratic Party platform. LanternWaste Mar 2015 #115
Hillary... uhm err hmm ...Oligarchy 2016. L0oniX Mar 2015 #118
You mean like these principles? YoungDemCA Mar 2015 #121
Here's what I've observed about how the process works in the USA Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2015 #127
Well, that was before the DLC brigade sold the party to Wall $treet hifiguy Mar 2015 #129
DLC, Third Way, Progressive Policy Institute, Century for American Progress, No Labels, all merrily Mar 2015 #134
+1 bvar22 Mar 2015 #140
Hillary isn't our only option ... Lots of words ... No alternative mentioned. JoePhilly Mar 2015 #135
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