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4. and most people aren't, it is assumed that their system personal are handling such things

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Sat Mar 14, 2015, 12:27 AM

Mar 2015

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Backups in every corporate environment are handled by a specific department

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Most Official Emails Were Not Auto-Archived Until February (2015), Says State Department Official [View all] morningfog Mar 2015 OP

So almost none of the emails she sent to state.gov addresses madville Mar 2015 #1

and most people aren't, it is assumed that their system personal are handling such things still_one Mar 2015 #4

What kills me is that they 'lacked the ability' all this time. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #54

I suspect it just isn't the state department either. still_one Mar 2015 #59

It's not just the State Department. According to the NYTimes article, pnwmom Mar 2015 #68

She spoke with great certainty on this point, though. morningfog Mar 2015 #5

Why do you say she couldn't have known? Everybody here has been assuming pnwmom Mar 2015 #69

Well, she couldn't have known because it isn't true. morningfog Mar 2015 #71

"I doubt she knew they weren't being saved, delrem Mar 2015 #12

I'm no fan of HRC, but I'd actually agree with that part. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #55

It blows a hole in the idea that she was the exception instead of the rule. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #15

No. KMOD Mar 2015 #18

The .gov emails were not saved. Not until last month. morningfog Mar 2015 #21

Yes, they were. KMOD Mar 2015 #23

Read the article. Dot gov emails were not retained automatically until last month. morningfog Mar 2015 #30

No. .gov of "senior officials" were not retained automatically until last month. KMOD Mar 2015 #34

You have it ass backwards. They started with automatically retaining the Secretary's when Kerry morningfog Mar 2015 #38

No. Everyone Hillary Clinton, etc. received, or sent an email to KMOD Mar 2015 #41

You still have it wrong: morningfog Mar 2015 #60

No, once again, John Kerry is the first Sec of State to use a .gov account. KMOD Mar 2015 #63

You are not reading accurately, or you are just not reading. morningfog Mar 2015 #66

What is confusing you? KMOD Mar 2015 #72

Just keep digging! 99Forever Mar 2015 #73

What? KMOD Mar 2015 #75

If I gotta tell ya.... 99Forever Mar 2015 #79

You are not making any sense, at least to me, at all. KMOD Mar 2015 #80

Sir... 99Forever Mar 2015 #81

First, I'm a woman. KMOD Mar 2015 #82

Woman, man, or something else. 99Forever Mar 2015 #83

lol KMOD Mar 2015 #84

But you can't make them comprehend or think. 99Forever Mar 2015 #85

Exactly. KMOD Mar 2015 #86

The only thing confusing me is your willful ignorance. I don't get it. morningfog Mar 2015 #74

Oh my goodness, KMOD Mar 2015 #76

Got it. Everyone is wrong except Hillary. morningfog Mar 2015 #77

What? KMOD Mar 2015 #78

Oh lookie here, you can all put your money where you mouths are. KMOD Mar 2015 #87

Iverglas? Is that you? Telcontar Mar 2015 #88

When will I be loved? KMOD Mar 2015 #89

what about the FOIA, wasn't that there all along for extracting records? namastea42 Mar 2015 #44

The key word up above was 'automatically'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #56

You need to catch up on yesterday's news madville Mar 2015 #53

It also blows a hole in the theory that it would have been better if she had used pnwmom Mar 2015 #67

Doesn't the department's technical ineptitude reflect badly on her leadership? LeftyMom Mar 2015 #2

Just a preview of what can be expected Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #10

Kerry has been the head of the State Department for over two years now. pnwmom Mar 2015 #16

Apparently they're finally making some rather slow progress. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #27

You have to parse Hillary's words carefully. She said she did not SEND any classified information. morningfog Mar 2015 #33

It really doesn't matter. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #42

Now that it's become an issue. pnwmom Mar 2015 #36

Because in the current culture of security every blessed thing is restricted information. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #47

all Federal agencies have been lacking with regards to recent technology. KMOD Mar 2015 #19

State is widely regarded to be bringing up the rear. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #29

Clinton followed all State protocol. Above and beyond. KMOD Mar 2015 #37

That's demonstrably untrue. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #45

Bullshit KMOD Mar 2015 #46

The NYTimes says HHS still doesn't archive and that numerous other agencies pnwmom Mar 2015 #70

I'm beginning to think we need to start GoFundMe pages, or Kickstarter accounts Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #57

lol at the GoFundMe pages KMOD Mar 2015 #64

I'm not even a security guy Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #65

Why are we still talking about this? scscholar Mar 2015 #3

If it had no legs, it would have no legs. This is long from over. morningfog Mar 2015 #8

It has no legs, no arms, no body, no nothing. KMOD Mar 2015 #20

So by having her own email Clinton did good? joshcryer Mar 2015 #6

Lol. So she says. morningfog Mar 2015 #7

I believe her. joshcryer Mar 2015 #9

Our system of government does not work on trust. It works on transparncy, accountablility morningfog Mar 2015 #11

Just what do you imagine she sent via email? KMOD Mar 2015 #22

I doubt she sent anything scandalous or neferious, but we will never know. morningfog Mar 2015 #26

This is so incredibly silly. KMOD Mar 2015 #32

Heh. That's a lie we tell ourselves. joshcryer Mar 2015 #51

Hey, I believe all politicians, Rep, Dem, US or other, but what does that get me? delrem Mar 2015 #13

Well, none would have been kept if she used state.gov, right? stevenleser Mar 2015 #31

That has never been my issue. morningfog Mar 2015 #35

Another point. The .gov emails are still in the State server, even if not automatically retained. morningfog Mar 2015 #40

Odd that they would auto-archive Kerry's emails the day he started, but there was no thought TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #14

Why didn't they start archiving ALL the emails of the whole department pnwmom Mar 2015 #17

It's extremely inconsistent and strange. Hillary operated under entirely different TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #24

They updated protocol. Big freakin' whoop. KMOD Mar 2015 #28

They updated protocol the day Kerry was sworn in? It suddenly on that day became TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #39

The policy was finally updated to modern times. KMOD Mar 2015 #43

If it's a written record of her daily business, though not necessarily classified or juicy stuff, TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #49

All that stuff was archived. KMOD Mar 2015 #52

They finally "gave a sh*t" because they updated recommendations due to advances KMOD Mar 2015 #25

"Archiving" in email lingo, is different from "backing up" newthinking Mar 2015 #48

I don't think that's the same as 'archiving' in Federal records lingo though. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #58

Maybe the NSA has all these e-mails. Has anyone asked whether the NSA JDPriestly Mar 2015 #50

Or how about the CIA? They were caught red handed spying on senators. Rex Mar 2015 #61

it's kind of sad... sendero Mar 2015 #62