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In reply to the discussion: Hundreds of Farmers Block Roads in Protest of Monsanto’s GMO Crops [View all]Veilex
(1,555 posts)94. So, lets assume golden rice hasn't been scraped...
Another fact is that the sole research paper you've identified, has woefully substandard methods being employed, and would not be considered a credible authority on the issue by those following scientific method.
One essential debate is on the science of biotechnology. This will never be a precise technology, says Chee. They can't defend it from a scientific basis because they haven't shown us good science yet. Golden Rice is a so-called Second Generation GM product, meaning it purports to have benefits for consumers, not just for producers.
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~ethics/GoldenRiceCaseStudy.pdf
Ignoring the commentators and simply looking at reactions and body language, the male guest did indeed backpedal each time she countered one of his points. Calling her point of view biased or pure bullshit, doesn't make you right on the subject... nor do you gain the upper hand in the discussion by claiming " obvious to anyone who actually knows shit from beans about the subject" - Here, your dabbling with the classic fallacy known as false equivalency. Namely, you're trying to frame the argument that only those who know anything on the topic agree with you... which is patently false.
If you can back up your assertions, that's fine. But at present, you have a single study with a ridiculously small, non-representative, sample group of just two men and three women. Additionally, these purported finding compared to previous versions is nothing short of miraculous, if true. The simple fact that the claims are so dramatically different, alone, should have prompted a representative and rigorous study.
Thus far, its just one study, that fails to follow basic scientific method. I'd love to see more, particularly if its legit. But right now, the legitimacy potential of this study is rather poor... particularly given no other credible scientific journal has given credence to the study.
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Hundreds of Farmers Block Roads in Protest of Monsanto’s GMO Crops [View all]
RiverLover
Mar 2015
OP
Another source makes no mention of Monsanto -- says protest is over loss of crops to wild boar
GreatGazoo
Mar 2015
#1
Did you even bother to look it up yourself? (rhetorical question -- I know the answer)
Buzz Clik
Mar 2015
#25
Good jury result. The alert should have been on the post that caused that response. Did you alert on
sabrina 1
Mar 2015
#100
that sucks, you posted this yesterday on Sunday- it's only ONE DAY into the week!
snooper2
Mar 2015
#71
Same land grab MO big ag used in the Us in the 1980's. Big Ag are criminals against the earth.
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2015
#2
Good way to phrase it & BigAg's land grabs are allowing the GMOs Polish farmers don't want.
RiverLover
Mar 2015
#58
Nye has changed his views on GMOs, and will show that in an updated version of his book.
HuckleB
Mar 2015
#18
"That 14-year-old is the daughter of parents who own a billion dollar organic food and..."
Veilex
Mar 2015
#37
So I'll retract my statment that golden rice has been scraped. The 14 year old activist was still...
Veilex
Mar 2015
#101
"Nye has changed his views on GMOs, and will show that in an updated version of his book."
Veilex
Mar 2015
#38
This is actually a past viewpoint. Nye has admitted that he has changed these views.
HuckleB
Mar 2015
#98
So, she says we can't trust "biotech," but she wants us to trust the anti-GMO movement?
HuckleB
Mar 2015
#49
She brings up good points, but I certainly wouldn't call it a 'trust' issue in re science itself.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Mar 2015
#53
Me again. There are some solid reasons to be concerned about GMO crop systems
GreatGazoo
Mar 2015
#14
it IS happening here (Unless you mean 'protesting Russian embargoes on Polish produce')
GreatGazoo
Mar 2015
#23
Which just happens to be the exact same reason all other commercial produce is developed
Major Nikon
Mar 2015
#59
Wow. Have you been reading from the Sean Hannity playbook of rebuttals against science?
Buzz Clik
Mar 2015
#109
I see. Science by assimilation. You let your immune system filter out the bad science?
Buzz Clik
Mar 2015
#113
We have been trained to revere giant corporations, through generations of
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Mar 2015
#54
They're doing it right - addressing the major issues associated with GM.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Mar 2015
#51
I'm curious -- did you ever acknowledge that this protest was NOT about GMO crops?
Buzz Clik
Mar 2015
#110