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EFerrari

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16. Caught this excellent BookTV segment with Tom and Jeremy Scahill on this

Mon Apr 30, 2012, 11:51 PM

Apr 2012

and related topics:

"The United States of Fear"

Tom Engelhardt

About the Program

Tom Engelhardt, creator and editor of TomDispatch.com, argues that the U.S. government successfully used the threat of terrorism to scare the public into supporting increased spending on war, the military, and homeland security, leading the country down the same path the Soviet Union took just prior to its collapse. During this event, Mr. Engelhardt is in conversation with journalist and author Jeremy Scahill. Hosted by New York University.

http://www.booktv.org/Watch/13212/The+United+States+of+Fear.aspx

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How Did Obama Become Our Most Imperial President? [View all] Better Believe It Apr 2012 OP

Another Obama-bashing article from Better Believe It. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #1

feel free to ignore the content and criticize the messenger. nt msongs Apr 2012 #2

The messenger has an agenda. n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #3

+1 Bobbie Jo May 2012 #106

gee thanks, I will! lol. BootinUp Apr 2012 #4

+1 dflprincess Apr 2012 #5

I read the content. blue neen Apr 2012 #7

Absolutely...nt SidDithers May 2012 #26

another content free post from Bolo Boffin paulk May 2012 #67

another personal attack AtomicKitten May 2012 #85

was it the "Obamanaut" bit that set you off? paulk May 2012 #96

wouldnt this belong in Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #6

Question... BootinUp Apr 2012 #8

Ohh, how scary. The article says Obama has lawyers! randome Apr 2012 #9

"just more fear-mongering bullshit from the usual source." End your personal attacks/trash talk Better Believe It Apr 2012 #10

And I can use the word 'bullshit' when I see fit. randome Apr 2012 #14

Political assassinations are now accepted as official government policy for the first time. Better Believe It Apr 2012 #21

Don't throw me in that briar patch!!! randome Apr 2012 #22

excellent idea got root May 2012 #28

I'm proud to be in company with those fine DUers... SidDithers May 2012 #38

Wear your badge of banishment with pride, Sid... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #47

"obnoxious posters"? ProSense May 2012 #41

He thinks he's got a real winner of a post there... SidDithers May 2012 #43

Do you have any comment on the actual subject of the thread? sabrina 1 May 2012 #50

I commented on the actual subject of the thread WonderGrunion May 2012 #103

Please add me to your ignore list. Old and In the Way May 2012 #42

Don't forget me. Oh, wait, nevermind. FSogol May 2012 #80

Wow, you must feel tough announcing on the internet those you are ignoring. mythology May 2012 #91

Interesting sig line. sabrina 1 May 2012 #49

All president will be Imperial Presidents now. Autumn Apr 2012 #11

Caught this excellent BookTV segment with Tom and Jeremy Scahill on this EFerrari Apr 2012 #16

I think it could be said of most since the end of wwII, but it has been pretty blatant since the got root Apr 2012 #17

Maybe the war mongers know, deep inside their evil hearts, randome Apr 2012 #19

Maybe Interesting. Not Excellent ProfessorGAC May 2012 #56

Now? Apparently we need to do a better job of teaching history. jeff47 May 2012 #83

I don't quite remember that far back Autumn May 2012 #89

That's a ProSense Apr 2012 #12

Oops: ProSense Apr 2012 #13

I wish everybody could see this list. Jamaal510 May 2012 #39

Political junkies care about lists, but nobody else does. eridani May 2012 #57

THE LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Skittles May 2012 #23

O.M.G. ProSense May 2012 #24

It's fucking loooooooooong! lonestarnot May 2012 #27

Just for you, ProSense May 2012 #30

L! lonestarnot May 2012 #33

! NYC_SKP May 2012 #110

just for lonestarnot? Skittles May 2012 #36

Snort! lonestarnot May 2012 #111

And six links. progressoid May 2012 #29

Excellent compilation of Obama's accomplishments! Old and In the Way May 2012 #44

that list is very weak, full of fluff, much of it's so vague or commonplace as to render it useless stockholmer May 2012 #101

Yeah, it is very creepy... after 911, everything changed, and now this is the new normal got root Apr 2012 #15

I know. blue neen Apr 2012 #18

Very good to see you back BBI. Du rec. Nt xchrom Apr 2012 #20

Keep trying...nt SidDithers May 2012 #25

vaht? dionysus May 2012 #64

Who's getting your vote for President in November, BBI? SunSeeker May 2012 #31

I think you probably meant to ask Sid that question. BBI is a Democrat. sabrina 1 May 2012 #52

... SidDithers May 2012 #61

Wow. Looks like someone has a crush! Number23 May 2012 #102

Damn, you've uncovered my secret... SidDithers May 2012 #108

No, I meant to ask BBI, and I'm still waiting to hear..... SunSeeker May 2012 #78

But one of them routinely posts anti-Obama posts and very little else. mythology May 2012 #92

One of them posts about issues which used to be of importance to Democrats, and still are. sabrina 1 May 2012 #97

One of them posts articles authored by racist shitbags... SidDithers May 2012 #98

I'm guessing Karl Rove. JoePhilly May 2012 #60

Looking "tough" is de rigeuer during campaign season. And, don't forget the flag pins. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2012 #32

DU Rec. woo me with science May 2012 #34

Nuclear missiles to drones. midnight May 2012 #35

BBI, I've noticed there are rarely any rebuttals to your posts. Marr May 2012 #37

Here's one ProSense May 2012 #40

That wasn't a rebuttal-- it was a commercial. Marr May 2012 #45

Of course, ProSense May 2012 #46

The OP's droning on and on is boring. Major Hogwash May 2012 #48

Then start your own OP about it. Do not derail threads other people are interested in. It doesn't sabrina 1 May 2012 #53

WTF? ProSense May 2012 #73

thats because his shtick is totally stale by this point... dionysus May 2012 #65

That's because those of us who have rebutted them quickly learned not to bother jeff47 May 2012 #70

How many times do I need to consider a broken record before BootinUp May 2012 #74

It's what they got. There are too many facts that they can't talk around and too many people Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #79

Well, it seems we have a few posters who would rather engage in drive-by personal attacks. Better Believe It May 2012 #81

'Fraid you're the one driving by jeff47 May 2012 #82

So you think the author indicated an imperial President is something new in U.S. history? Better Believe It May 2012 #86

No, I think the author has a weak grasp of history if they think Obama's the most imperial jeff47 May 2012 #87

And this afternoon we are treated to a marvelous Obama speech to the Afghan occupation troops. Better Believe It May 2012 #88

The answers have been provided over and over and over again. jeff47 May 2012 #90

So you think President Obama is a less imperial President than George W. Bush!!! Better Believe It May 2012 #93

So according to you, Invading Iraq is less imperial than drone strikes? jeff47 May 2012 #100

True - there's a lot of hands-over-the-ears action. polichick May 2012 #105

If you want to know how, BlueIris May 2012 #51

Unless the people put a stop to this, the next president will be a lot worse. sabrina 1 May 2012 #54

He got elected. joshcryer May 2012 #55

All American presidents since the end of WW II have been imperialists n/t eridani May 2012 #58

You don't need the "since" clause in there. (nt) jeff47 May 2012 #84

Agreed WonderGrunion May 2012 #107

How would Karl Rove counter the fact that "Obama killed OBL and the GOP didn't" JoePhilly May 2012 #59

Only by people like the OP forgetting history jeff47 May 2012 #62

keep trying. dionysus May 2012 #63

I love how BBI posts critical Obama articles but then he and his friends can say WI_DEM May 2012 #66

I think you're misrepresenting or simply haven't read my comments on articles that disagree Better Believe It May 2012 #72

Especially when the authors of those articles are right wingers and racists... SidDithers May 2012 #75

I'm waiting for a link from Stormfront. (nt) jeff47 May 2012 #76

Do you have nothing to say about the article? EFerrari May 2012 #77

It's *easy* to be a fan of this President, if you approve of due-process-free Drone Killings. Romulox May 2012 #68

I wish I could come up with a defense of this president Generic Other May 2012 #69

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I don't think I'm allowed to sell fast food to the drive-by attackers! Better Believe It May 2012 #95

Bullshit! WonderGrunion May 2012 #99

I can't help wondering how Americans will feel when... polichick May 2012 #104

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