Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: If Third Way Democrats continue to the right with TPP, union bashing, privatization it's because [View all]rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)35. In the real world we've seen parts of it. It may not be final, but we can certainly see the
direction. Also, since huge multi-national corporations are in effect writing it, it isn't logical to believe that it will help the 99%.
Those that have their fingers in their ears, their eyes tightly shut, and saying over and over "we can't see the TPP", are not living in the "real world."
No one has bothered to explain how the TPP might possibly help us. I have a feeling you will accept whatever the TPP says, because you'd accept anything that Obama does.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
136 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
If Third Way Democrats continue to the right with TPP, union bashing, privatization it's because [View all]
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
OP
Really? And Hillary is the only Democrat out of 300,000,000 people who supports ACA?
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#2
Yes, every year conservatives advocate the "reality" that we must support only the most conservative
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#4
so we should just sit back and let the system tell us who to vote for regardless of principals - we
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#7
Third way's conservative posturing will cost the election. Why do you want Republicans to win?
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#10
Bullshit. If you fail to actively support liberal policies, programs, and laws.
Agnosticsherbet
Mar 2015
#13
Explain how liberal policies are helped by grooming a single conservative candidate?
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#17
We are electing 30 Senators, 435 members of the House, a President and Vice President.
Agnosticsherbet
Mar 2015
#22
And the Third Way is influencing them all, so once again I ask, why do Democrats want Republicans to
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#23
When people refuse to support liberal policy, programs, and individual rights
Agnosticsherbet
Mar 2015
#54
How does not voting for one candidate prevent me from voting for the others on my ballot?
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#94
If you nominate H. Clinton then you don't care if the Republicons win. We have better
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#33
Only the anti-hillary/anti-thirdway group are talking about nominating Hillary.
Agnosticsherbet
Mar 2015
#36
The Third Way does not support liberal policies. They support Conservative values. nm
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#39
The anti-thirdway/anti-hillary crowd do not support liberal policies. They are not liberals.
Agnosticsherbet
Mar 2015
#41
What I find curious is that the Conservative Wing of our party really want to be called liberals.
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#105
We need candidates, not only for the White House, but for Congress and local
JDPriestly
Mar 2015
#80
1+1=2 but 1+0=1 not 2, the only way a vote helps the TeaPubliKlans is if it is added to their total.
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#92
Why are generalizing Third Way going against unions? I happen to be a life long union member and
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#6
I don't know many union members who support third way's TPP program. Do you? Can you
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#8
You pick out a subject if which has not even been revealed. If the unions has
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#11
Which unions support TPP (or even Third Way for that matter) - I asked a simple question
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#12
I dont know nor do I care, dont judge me on being a union member and liking
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#14
How many jobs do you believe should be sent to Asia? How much lower should our wages be?
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#15
Twll me exactly what is contained in the TPP, not rumors or judging by any agreements in the past,
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#18
That is a bs demand, given that the agreement is in a secure room. However, the word of people
merrily
Mar 2015
#26
I know it is in a secure room, details are not known, poster wanted a decisive answer and I
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#89
You support prior agreements? Which ones and why do you think they helped American workers?
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#95
When politicians demand secrecy, it's not so they can throw you a birthday party.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Mar 2015
#110
What is in TPP unions dislike, again we do not know what is in TPP and I am not going to answer
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#90
You certainly have a lot of posts here for not wanting to comment about information that isn't
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#97
you're talking to the person who was on a kick about the rampant fraud in SSDI for a while.
ND-Dem
Mar 2015
#29
The homophobic tropes have a unique flavor profile...here's one I just read in yet another thread
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#109
In the real world it's not possible to support or oppose something that hasn't been written yet.
RB TexLa
Mar 2015
#16
I agree, until I see the exact wording it is impossible to make a decision.
Thinkingabout
Mar 2015
#19
In the real world something like TPP is designed by conservatives and fast tracked to prevent
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#20
Sanders, Warren, Grayson and unions are not living in the real world? DUers know better?
merrily
Mar 2015
#27
In the real world we've seen parts of it. It may not be final, but we can certainly see the
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#35
I support free trade, President Obama doing something doesn't have anything to do with it.
RB TexLa
Mar 2015
#40
No one has even tried to explain how this TPP, which is way more than a "trade agreement"
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#42
Sounds like like you got it all figured out, now get out there with your talking points
RB TexLa
Mar 2015
#43
You support legislation so what is so funny or tricky about wanting to know the benefits of the act?
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#99
But you have nothing. Not even talking points. Here's one you can use: "What's good for corporations
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#104
Clinton is a conservative Third Way Lobbyist. By unconditionally refusing to challenge her
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#24
And it just takes one president to push through NAFTA or TPP or another war and it all
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#47
i never see people like those who claim to be the most liberal on the internet at local events
JI7
Mar 2015
#55
most of them support Hillary for President and i never heard the criticisms of her that i read on
JI7
Mar 2015
#67
people can claim to be anything on the internet so my point is more about those who claim
JI7
Mar 2015
#73
I never see them whipping the next "free trade" agreement, the next war, or the next austerity scam
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#103
REAGAN would be a commie to the right. He raised taxes, you know. Four times!
Scootaloo
Mar 2015
#79
Reagan was a blacklisting, red baiting bigot. His director of communications was Pat Buchanan.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#111
No one here has ever said there are no differences between the parties. That is a
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#38
"The Conservative Wing likes NAFTA, CAFTA, the WTO ..." But far-right repubs hate them? FDR lowered
pampango
Mar 2015
#87
So you are saying that you support the so called "Free Trade" agreements like the TPP?
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#101
I am saying that there is such a thing as a GOOD trade agreement. FDR negotiated plenty of them.
pampango
Mar 2015
#107
I understand what you say. The problem I am having is that some people that I respect
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#113
If "because Obama" was the coin you pretend you'd be shoving Obama's existing efforts down our
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#116
If the policies of FDR are irrelevant to you because 'times are different now' that is your choice.
pampango
Mar 2015
#120
I believe that certainly the impacts of trade are vastly different. We are talking a time when we
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#121
Today progressive countries benefit from FDR's policies on trade, taxes, regulation and safety nets.
pampango
Mar 2015
#123
I welcome seeing the standards for labor and protection of the environment increased for Americans.
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#125
What do unions say about TPP and Fast track? Democrats should fight for jobs and living wages in USA
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#31
EST - I met one of "trainers" of that shit by way of mutal friend. must have been early 80s?
whereisjustice
Mar 2015
#49
Last I knew, it had morphed into something called The Forum, but even that was a while ago.
merrily
Mar 2015
#63
No, it's all Turd Way. Little sense in getting caught up in the various brands under the umbrella
TheKentuckian
Mar 2015
#117
Unfortunately, the bystanders in our myriad foreign wars will continue to be boiled
Maedhros
Mar 2015
#128