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19. I agree, until I see the exact wording it is impossible to make a decision.

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If Third Way Democrats continue to the right with TPP, union bashing, privatization it's because [View all] whereisjustice Mar 2015 OP

I will not vote to support the revocation of the ACA. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #1

Really? And Hillary is the only Democrat out of 300,000,000 people who supports ACA? whereisjustice Mar 2015 #2

Who said anything about Hillary Clinton? Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #3

Yes, every year conservatives advocate the "reality" that we must support only the most conservative whereisjustice Mar 2015 #4

I am a liberal because I will not vote Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #5

so we should just sit back and let the system tell us who to vote for regardless of principals - we whereisjustice Mar 2015 #7

Never told you to vote for Hillary. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #9

Third way's conservative posturing will cost the election. Why do you want Republicans to win? whereisjustice Mar 2015 #10

Bullshit. If you fail to actively support liberal policies, programs, and laws. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #13

Explain how liberal policies are helped by grooming a single conservative candidate? whereisjustice Mar 2015 #17

We are electing 30 Senators, 435 members of the House, a President and Vice President. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #22

And the Third Way is influencing them all, so once again I ask, why do Democrats want Republicans to whereisjustice Mar 2015 #23

The Democratic Party is not shutting out liberals. We are here. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #30

And there's the claim anti-Hillary=non-Democrat, non-Liberal =.= daredtowork Mar 2015 #46

When people refuse to support liberal policy, programs, and individual rights Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #54

I stand on my comment. nt daredtowork Mar 2015 #61

And I stand by mine. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #64

I swear Aerows Mar 2015 #130

How does not voting for one candidate prevent me from voting for the others on my ballot? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #94

If you nominate H. Clinton then you don't care if the Republicons win. We have better rhett o rick Mar 2015 #33

Only the anti-hillary/anti-thirdway group are talking about nominating Hillary. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #36

The Third Way does not support liberal policies. They support Conservative values. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #39

The anti-thirdway/anti-hillary crowd do not support liberal policies. They are not liberals. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #41

You're funny Scootaloo Mar 2015 #59

Sometimes funny is good. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #65

Good-funny is good. bad-funny is sad. Scootaloo Mar 2015 #78

This is Aerows Mar 2015 #133

What I find curious is that the Conservative Wing of our party really want to be called liberals. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #105

Raises Hand! Aerows Mar 2015 #131

Like whom? ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #127

We need candidates, not only for the White House, but for Congress and local JDPriestly Mar 2015 #80

1+1=2 but 1+0=1 not 2, the only way a vote helps the TeaPubliKlans is if it is added to their total. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #92

Why are generalizing Third Way going against unions? I happen to be a life long union member and Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #6

I don't know many union members who support third way's TPP program. Do you? Can you whereisjustice Mar 2015 #8

You pick out a subject if which has not even been revealed. If the unions has Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #11

Which unions support TPP (or even Third Way for that matter) - I asked a simple question whereisjustice Mar 2015 #12

I dont know nor do I care, dont judge me on being a union member and liking Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #14

How many jobs do you believe should be sent to Asia? How much lower should our wages be? whereisjustice Mar 2015 #15

Twll me exactly what is contained in the TPP, not rumors or judging by any agreements in the past, Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #18

That is a bs demand, given that the agreement is in a secure room. However, the word of people merrily Mar 2015 #26

I know it is in a secure room, details are not known, poster wanted a decisive answer and I Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #89

You support prior agreements? Which ones and why do you think they helped American workers? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #95

It's over, no more questions answered on this thread. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #96

No answers will do that to you every time. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #115

When politicians demand secrecy, it's not so they can throw you a birthday party. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #110

You tell us what could be in the TPP that the unions might like. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #34

What is in TPP unions dislike, again we do not know what is in TPP and I am not going to answer Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #90

You certainly have a lot of posts here for not wanting to comment about information that isn't rhett o rick Mar 2015 #97

see post #96 Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #98

See post 97. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #100

you're talking to the person who was on a kick about the rampant fraud in SSDI for a while. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #29

thanks, that figures, lol whereisjustice Mar 2015 #32

... SidDithers Mar 2015 #48

... ND-Dem Mar 2015 #50

Yeah. I don't like homophobes... SidDithers Mar 2015 #52

... ND-Dem Mar 2015 #53

Question: What's your basis for the assertion, Sid? Scootaloo Mar 2015 #81

The homophobic tropes have a unique flavor profile...here's one I just read in yet another thread Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #109

But how does that prove that the guy's a zombie? Scootaloo Mar 2015 #136

Yup, admitted in this thread to be a Third Wayer LondonReign2 Mar 2015 #129

In the real world it's not possible to support or oppose something that hasn't been written yet. RB TexLa Mar 2015 #16

I agree, until I see the exact wording it is impossible to make a decision. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #19

LMAO. merrily Mar 2015 #28

In the real world something like TPP is designed by conservatives and fast tracked to prevent whereisjustice Mar 2015 #20

Sanders, Warren, Grayson and unions are not living in the real world? DUers know better? merrily Mar 2015 #27

In the real world we've seen parts of it. It may not be final, but we can certainly see the rhett o rick Mar 2015 #35

I support free trade, President Obama doing something doesn't have anything to do with it. RB TexLa Mar 2015 #40

No one has even tried to explain how this TPP, which is way more than a "trade agreement" rhett o rick Mar 2015 #42

Sounds like like you got it all figured out, now get out there with your talking points RB TexLa Mar 2015 #43

Nah, he's too busy crossing his fingers and clapping for zappaman Mar 2015 #62

You support legislation so what is so funny or tricky about wanting to know the benefits of the act? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #99

But you have nothing. Not even talking points. Here's one you can use: "What's good for corporations rhett o rick Mar 2015 #104

Speak up. Aerows Mar 2015 #132

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #66

If you think Democrats are anti-capitalist BainsBane Mar 2015 #21

Clinton is a conservative Third Way Lobbyist. By unconditionally refusing to challenge her whereisjustice Mar 2015 #24

+10000! Katashi_itto Mar 2015 #25

"Refusing to challenge her" BainsBane Mar 2015 #44

And it just takes one president to push through NAFTA or TPP or another war and it all whereisjustice Mar 2015 #47

i never see people like those who claim to be the most liberal on the internet at local events JI7 Mar 2015 #55

How do you know if you are seeing anonymous posters at local events or not? merrily Mar 2015 #57

based on the things they say JI7 Mar 2015 #58

LOL! merrily Mar 2015 #60

most of them support Hillary for President and i never heard the criticisms of her that i read on JI7 Mar 2015 #67

Covered by my prior post. merrily Mar 2015 #68

people can claim to be anything on the internet so my point is more about those who claim JI7 Mar 2015 #73

Not really. Your point is nothing but insinuation and imagination. merrily Mar 2015 #74

there are scientific polls which people like romney did not understand JI7 Mar 2015 #75

maybe they should - eom dreamnightwind Mar 2015 #69

I never see them whipping the next "free trade" agreement, the next war, or the next austerity scam TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #103

Is that so? BainsBane Mar 2015 #86

It is amazing they have the ability to get involved treestar Mar 2015 #72

That statement is absurd to most of the people in this country treestar Mar 2015 #71

REAGAN would be a commie to the right. He raised taxes, you know. Four times! Scootaloo Mar 2015 #79

Yeah, Reagan raised taxes... Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #91

Reagan was a blacklisting, red baiting bigot. His director of communications was Pat Buchanan. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #111

Ive never heard a right winger complain about that in regards to Reagan treestar Mar 2015 #114

+1 Scuba Mar 2015 #88

No one here has ever said there are no differences between the parties. That is a rhett o rick Mar 2015 #38

"The Conservative Wing likes NAFTA, CAFTA, the WTO ..." But far-right repubs hate them? FDR lowered pampango Mar 2015 #87

So you are saying that you support the so called "Free Trade" agreements like the TPP? rhett o rick Mar 2015 #101

I am saying that there is such a thing as a GOOD trade agreement. FDR negotiated plenty of them. pampango Mar 2015 #107

I understand what you say. The problem I am having is that some people that I respect rhett o rick Mar 2015 #113

If "because Obama" was the coin you pretend you'd be shoving Obama's existing efforts down our TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #116

If the policies of FDR are irrelevant to you because 'times are different now' that is your choice. pampango Mar 2015 #120

I believe that certainly the impacts of trade are vastly different. We are talking a time when we TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #121

Excellent summation Populist_Prole Mar 2015 #122

Today progressive countries benefit from FDR's policies on trade, taxes, regulation and safety nets. pampango Mar 2015 #123

I welcome seeing the standards for labor and protection of the environment increased for Americans. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #125

You didn't knock that one out of the park Aerows Mar 2015 #134

Thanks TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #135

Well said. treestar Mar 2015 #70

Excuse me, the "idle left"? Scootaloo Mar 2015 #76

Well said. nt Bobbie Jo Mar 2015 #93

What do unions say about TPP and Fast track? Democrats should fight for jobs and living wages in USA whereisjustice Mar 2015 #31

TY 840high Mar 2015 #37

SEIU too Scootaloo Mar 2015 #82

They live in a patronage bubble daredtowork Mar 2015 #45

EST - I met one of "trainers" of that shit by way of mutal friend. must have been early 80s? whereisjustice Mar 2015 #49

Please double appreciate it XD daredtowork Mar 2015 #56

Last I knew, it had morphed into something called The Forum, but even that was a while ago. merrily Mar 2015 #63

btw - I'd encourage you to edit and repost this as OP whereisjustice Mar 2015 #51

I may do this tomorrow evening daredtowork Mar 2015 #84

please send me a note when you do so I can K & R it :) whereisjustice Mar 2015 #119

This would be a good basis for its own OP n/t Scootaloo Mar 2015 #83

Thanks - maybe tomorrow evening! :) nt daredtowork Mar 2015 #85

+ 1000 nt raouldukelives Mar 2015 #112

Excellent Caretha Mar 2015 #118

The DLC, predecessor of the Third Way, Warpy Mar 2015 #77

Where is your alternative candidate? JoePhilly Mar 2015 #102

Whoa boy fredamae Mar 2015 #106

No, it's all Turd Way. Little sense in getting caught up in the various brands under the umbrella TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #117

K & R GoneFishin Mar 2015 #108

The sole difference between the economic polices of HRC and any Repuke hifiguy Mar 2015 #124

Unfortunately, the bystanders in our myriad foreign wars will continue to be boiled Maedhros Mar 2015 #128

Your concern is noted. Thank you. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #126