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HiPointDem

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74. not surprised you'd say so. but painting king in some kind of opposition to occupy = the
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:57 PM
Apr 2012

silliest thing i've seen all day.

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revoluton inevitable” -JFK Fumesucker Apr 2012 #1
As true now as it was then, and the latter of the two is overdue. eom tledford Apr 2012 #11
Those who seek violent revolution MineralMan Apr 2012 #72
Those who are able to convince a majority that peaceful revolution LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #65
Violent revolution is so messy.. Fumesucker Apr 2012 #70
Good points but I don't know that MLK was correct. former9thward Apr 2012 #2
The statement that Martin Luther King made was distilled from ages of history. bluestate10 May 2012 #213
As a student of history I certainly don't agree with your analysis. former9thward May 2012 #219
That doesn't mean, though, that Dr. King was ok with gradualism Ken Burch May 2012 #226
I agree. If it gets 5 minutes on the evening news, I'll be amazed. badtoworse Apr 2012 #3
I'll bet you $10K it will make the news :) pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #8
So what? Marr May 2012 #121
It has to do with getting your message out badtoworse May 2012 #157
Getting your message out is important. Marr May 2012 #175
So you agree with The Wraith and want us all to give up. Ken Burch May 2012 #141
Turning OWS into an ideological purity test isn't going to change anything either. hack89 May 2012 #142
How about defing some specific objectives? badtoworse May 2012 #156
Has "99% Spring" done any of those things? Ken Burch May 2012 #228
Not surprising since the corporate media's biased against us. backscatter712 May 2012 #154
Then you'd just be preaching to the choir. randome May 2012 #155
Once you get a "leader", you lose the radicalism. Ken Burch May 2012 #229
Even if someone noticed the "strike" they won't know what they are striking for banned from Kos Apr 2012 #4
Have you seen what it's like on the Occupy Underground forum? randome Apr 2012 #9
Let's see... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #10
Doomed I tell ya! bvar22 May 2012 #144
I don't think that the organizers believe it is going to be a huge deal media wise. CTyankee Apr 2012 #5
That is pretty much correct. It is an opportunity to support other actions beign called by allies.. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #14
We shouldn't forget the impact of the teach ins by college professors about Vietnam that CTyankee Apr 2012 #20
Yes, things change. randome Apr 2012 #23
"There is nothing new under the sun" as the saying goes. CTyankee May 2012 #146
And once the Civil Rights movement was absorbed in to the Democratic Party in the early Seventies Ken Burch May 2012 #287
Whoa. I was thinking of posting something along those lines, too. randome Apr 2012 #6
Bold prediction, lol tritsofme Apr 2012 #7
That depends entirely on what you're expecting........ socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #12
The same Dr. King who called for a general strike in support of the Memphis Sanitation workers? Morning Dew Apr 2012 #13
I think it is both hilarious and depressing that a general strike Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #15
I'd say the 'machete' part is more about the 'in-your-face' attitudes of many Occupiers. randome Apr 2012 #19
Yes because kissing the asses of the owners is working SO TBF Apr 2012 #30
I didn't say kiss their asses. randome Apr 2012 #38
There are several methods - and they can happen simultaneously TBF Apr 2012 #43
According to many Occupy reps, they can't happen simultaneously. randome Apr 2012 #47
Well my perspective is that we can do both - TBF Apr 2012 #55
If we get the government we deserve... randome Apr 2012 #62
why? RobertEarl Apr 2012 #75
Like the way Occupy pisses on 99% Spring? randome Apr 2012 #81
And what about you RobertEarl Apr 2012 #88
I think this is a good article that details a few of the tensions. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #108
Bravo RobertEarl! Tace May 2012 #199
Everybody in 99% Spring should just have joined Occupy Ken Burch May 2012 #207
99% Spring pisses on OWS and the people by even existing Ken Burch May 2012 #227
Does the 99% Spring have ANY workers or poor people in its ranks? Does it HAVE ranks? Ken Burch May 2012 #269
Be a leader. randome May 2012 #271
I'm willing to do that. Ken Burch May 2012 #275
If OWS is so powerful, then I would think they'd absorb 99% Spring. randome May 2012 #277
I was trying to take a less-confrontational tone in that last post. Ken Burch May 2012 #278
It doesn't make sense, that's what is wrong with it. randome May 2012 #279
I doubt it would mean anything. Ken Burch May 2012 #283
I'll start that dialogue...but need a link. Ken Burch May 2012 #288
No idea what 99% Spring has going for it, if anything. randome May 2012 #291
Perhaps the German Green party notion of rotating spokespersons might work. Ken Burch May 2012 #293
I honestly don't think anyone hates OWS enough to assassinate someone. randome May 2012 #295
The problem is, anytime a "leader" emerges, even if OWS didn't have one now Ken Burch May 2012 #302
Since you like to look at history as an example... randome May 2012 #311
It's partly due to the fact that the Democrats had become as pro-corporate as the GOP Ken Burch May 2012 #205
Is it not possible in smaller occupies especially that they have been co-opted by anti-Obama patrice May 2012 #131
Nobody on the inside is ever on OUR side. Ken Burch May 2012 #136
wrong got root Apr 2012 #79
"In-your-face" like the 504 protests suffragette May 2012 #127
But they had a coherent focused message and leader mythology Apr 2012 #16
It's way too early for legislative change. The Tea Party has recently changed its focus from CTyankee Apr 2012 #25
Jeeeeeeesus. Do you know how many decades it took to produce lasting legislative change? Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #26
So legislative change was tried early on, then. randome Apr 2012 #28
That doesn't even make sense. Congresscritters in 1875 or 76 introduced the 1st Civil Rights Act... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #46
Not to mention 100 years of VIOLENCE, state violence and organized private violence, to HiPointDem Apr 2012 #93
what a joke. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #89
What's the point in introducing legislation Ken Burch May 2012 #320
Just because you don't understand flat leadership TBF Apr 2012 #27
No, 'flat leadership' means no one is in charge. randome Apr 2012 #31
It means that there is a democratic method to making decisions - TBF Apr 2012 #35
Here we go. randome Apr 2012 #41
I can only discern from your comments - TBF Apr 2012 #44
Not sure how I can prove that. randome Apr 2012 #49
does the existence of occupy prevent you from your work toward legislative change? i don't think HiPointDem May 2012 #126
Of course Occupy is not preventing anyone from taking other approaches. randome May 2012 #152
"...are often derided..." = *sob* HiPointDem May 2012 #191
Go to the Occupy Underground forum in Activism and you'll see what I mean. randome May 2012 #193
They did those tactics because the kind YOU would favor Ken Burch May 2012 #266
You appear to be guilty of the very thing you indict others for... LanternWaste May 2012 #170
Once any Left group has a specific leader Ken Burch May 2012 #262
The current model OWS has is also not working. randome May 2012 #264
Depends on the group dynamic. Ken Burch May 2012 #276
Wins the thread. ellisonz Apr 2012 #21
+99% pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #36
+1. now that king is dead he's the saint of the bourgies, most of whom reviled him when he was HiPointDem Apr 2012 #83
Yep-- they promote people like MLK and Ghandi as icons of passivity and Marr May 2012 #122
The same Dr. King who helped organize the Montgomery bus boycott? intheflow May 2012 #118
Define "enormous flop". TBF Apr 2012 #17
Union weakness isn't an excuse... brooklynite May 2012 #181
The fact that we have anyone protesting in this police state TBF May 2012 #184
I've been offline. What general strike? thanks. uppityperson Apr 2012 #18
LINK: May Day Directory: Occupy General Strike In Over 135 Cities pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #22
Thank you, off to read it uppityperson Apr 2012 #33
Here you go: ellisonz Apr 2012 #24
Thanks, off to read uppityperson Apr 2012 #32
I can't do it. I need the money. knitter4democracy Apr 2012 #29
we understand that 2pooped2pop Apr 2012 #57
Really, your situation is understood and Occupiers certainly are sympathetic... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #60
Thank you. knitter4democracy Apr 2012 #100
Do what you can. backscatter712 May 2012 #158
Occupiers understand that better than most - TBF May 2012 #185
So now striking is like wielding a machete? Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #34
So you think a strike is like wielding a machete? Well then civil disobedience must be like Zalatix May 2012 #204
What would it take.. Triloon Apr 2012 #37
+1 TBF Apr 2012 #39
+2 and welcome to DU, Triloon! pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #52
... SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #96
i think they know it is not going to a an actual general 2pooped2pop Apr 2012 #40
I agree NoMoreWarNow Apr 2012 #45
so no point in even bothering to protest, eh? NoMoreWarNow Apr 2012 #42
I'm retired so I have an excuse! MoonRiver Apr 2012 #48
Um, excuse, me, retired? randome Apr 2012 #50
Why did you try to insult MoonRiver? Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #51
It was a joke. randome Apr 2012 #54
Sorry about misinterpreting. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #56
Never a problem. randome Apr 2012 #58
It's Amazing to Me....that you are Predicting! Why is this "Flop" so imortant to you? KoKo Apr 2012 #53
My guess is that since Occupy claims to represent damned near everyone... randome Apr 2012 #61
Bunch of Gobbledygook ellisonz Apr 2012 #67
Ewww. Soda? randome Apr 2012 #69
Umm...? ellisonz Apr 2012 #73
fail got root Apr 2012 #90
aim at the problem, not the symptom got root Apr 2012 #84
But we have no hope of getting a progressive government Ken Burch May 2012 #323
It's a typical hit and run post. myrna minx Apr 2012 #71
T Flying Squirrel Apr 2012 #59
There is a general strike planned? Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #63
LINK: May Day Directory: Occupy General Strike In Over 135 Cities pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #86
Thanks Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #92
I believe a time will come when such actions will be successful... jimlup Apr 2012 #64
Couldn't agree more- Register to vote, occupy the polls. Simple solution. nt cecilfirefox Apr 2012 #66
If the MSM ignores it then how would most people know? Odin2005 Apr 2012 #68
not surprised you'd say so. but painting king in some kind of opposition to occupy = the HiPointDem Apr 2012 #74
it is just another absurdity in the OP quinnox Apr 2012 #82
Oh my LORD. woo me with science Apr 2012 #104
Well, you know, "some say" that King was really a Republican. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #110
Obviously, MLK would have counseled caution, do not go into the streets to protest... pinboy3niner May 2012 #115
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. got root Apr 2012 #76
a strike is not a violent action and is protected by our constitution quinnox Apr 2012 #77
to the new world order it is got root Apr 2012 #85
Where are strikes mentioned in the Constitution, and how ..... oldhippie Apr 2012 #103
They aren't protected in the Constitution... white_wolf May 2012 #129
...and you'll be here uncontrollably cheering on it's demise the entire day! Earth_First Apr 2012 #78
How is a general strike "outrage and a machete" ? marmar Apr 2012 #80
yeah, it's slander by folks parroting the memes of the elite got root Apr 2012 #87
general strike = rwandan massacre. isn't it clear? don't you agree? HiPointDem Apr 2012 #95
That's the sort of rhetoric you get woo me with science May 2012 #123
I'm with ya. If you want change history shows the best thing raouldukelives Apr 2012 #91
I predict if they are arrested for nothing and die in jail cells stupidicus Apr 2012 #94
We are expecting minimal impact on our campus ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #97
which campus? got root Apr 2012 #98
Agreed. MrSlayer Apr 2012 #99
This thread is the first I've heard of it (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2012 #101
You Damn Hippies, Get off my Lawn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vanje Apr 2012 #102
Since you fail to define your terms ("flop" vs. "success"), this coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #105
So what. I'm getting together and meeting up with some cool like-minded people. limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #106
This is the first I've heard of it treestar Apr 2012 #107
And It Is Obvious,That That, Is EXACTLY What You Want... WillyT Apr 2012 #109
So, in your opinion, rather than getting out in the streets, what should we do? MadHound Apr 2012 #111
And I predict you would call it an enormous flop no matter what. girl gone mad Apr 2012 #112
Bwaahaahaa! Thanks for that, totally made my night as I plan for tomorrow. Zorra Apr 2012 #113
+99%. Many of us here will also be with you in the streets for MayDay, Zorra pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #114
And for that reason alone, I will kick this thread! lonestarnot May 2012 #116
That is a great post, Zorra... Luminous Animal May 2012 #117
Glad you think so, LA. Some things are just so very.... Zorra May 2012 #237
I'm running across a pretty high incidence of "Don't feed the beast. Let it ALL crash & burn." BUT patrice May 2012 #119
What's the alternative Ken Burch May 2012 #135
Please, don't try to claim King as some kind of moderate milquetoast. Marr May 2012 #120
I don't think OP is saying that. That long arc that King told us about requires MUCH more patrice May 2012 #124
Considering he/she flatly stated that strikes don't work, Marr May 2012 #128
Occupy Denver donheld May 2012 #125
Thanks for the opportunity to post this link to MayDay events around the country :) pinboy3niner May 2012 #130
Oh, and my prediction: Come MayDay, this OP will be proved to be an enormous flop pinboy3niner May 2012 #132
This OP was right on the money.... Joe the Revelator May 2012 #162
You wish Cali_Democrat May 2012 #203
It has not endured in the slightest....during the winter when it died.... Joe the Revelator May 2012 #239
You must live in a cave somewhere Rex May 2012 #273
What's 'funny' is you laughing at people who want to be on your side. randome May 2012 #274
Oh are you sure...those OWS people could turn Rex May 2012 #307
And you were proven to be correct, Pinboy. You are a far better predictor than the OP. I'll put sabrina 1 May 2012 #313
Look, you've always had your cards on the table. Ken Burch May 2012 #133
Why don't you just admit your're essentially a conservative and be done with it? Ken Burch May 2012 #134
So not supporting OWS = RW? Really? nt hack89 May 2012 #143
Trashing OWS is what the RW does. bahrbearian May 2012 #153
"Trashing" is in the eye of the beholder hack89 May 2012 #159
Following ineffectual stupidity is what the RW does....thinking for ourselves is what the left is Joe the Revelator May 2012 #161
So how left are you? Obama left, Pelosi,left. Not really left are they. bahrbearian May 2012 #164
This is a question our "relativistic" leftists NEVER answer....... socialist_n_TN May 2012 #232
Does Marxist count? bahrbearian May 2012 #233
Half the people on this forum who call themselves leftists... white_wolf May 2012 #236
Dissing OWS is...telling people that OWS isn't worth shit is. Ken Burch May 2012 #169
I believe Hack89 has done a lot in Wisconsin during the current 'difficulties'. randome May 2012 #172
criticism, yes...dismissal, not so much. Ken Burch May 2012 #201
The ones that want war are neocons that ran for deferments when the time to fight bluestate10 May 2012 #216
Is 99% Spring right wing? nt hack89 May 2012 #186
Those who built the 99% Spring should just have joined Occupy Ken Burch May 2012 #202
There does not appear to be a place in OWS for those of us that hack89 May 2012 #245
There are a lot of people who support specific parties within Occupy Ken Burch May 2012 #247
Well, you just put your finger on why OWS has some competition. hack89 May 2012 #249
I support the Democratic Party and I wasn't pissing on you. Ken Burch May 2012 #251
Is this contradictory? WinniSkipper May 2012 #195
What else would you call supporting a totally unjustified splinter group Ken Burch May 2012 #210
So you reject members of the Democratic Pary hack89 May 2012 #246
What an utterly nonsensical claim. Where did you get the idea that OWS doesn't want democrats? Do sabrina 1 May 2012 #248
Why don't you read the post that I am replying to. hack89 May 2012 #250
I AM a member of the Democratic Party and a supporter of Occupy Ken Burch May 2012 #254
So then 99% Spring is for those of us that do endorse Democrats hack89 May 2012 #256
You weren't forbidden to individually work for Dems as a member of OWS. Ken Burch May 2012 #260
You have all these established organizations with many of the same goals of OWS hack89 May 2012 #265
Then the 99% Spring shouldn't have come in with the attitude that "we can do it and OWS can't" Ken Burch May 2012 #267
OWS should not defer to anyone. I certainly don't defer to them. hack89 May 2012 #296
There has to be SOME independence Ken Burch May 2012 #298
And yet there was no progress on those issues hack89 May 2012 #322
It comes down to giving the "leaders" no alternative but to do what's right. Ken Burch May 2012 #324
The only leverage you have over these leaders is the ballot. hack89 May 2012 #326
Which organizations are those? Ken Burch May 2012 #268
MoveOn.org, Rebuild The Dream, AFL-CIO, United Auto Workers, CODEPINK: Women for Peace, hack89 May 2012 #294
And Occupy wasn't dissing those groups-nor was I,actually. Ken Burch May 2012 #300
Wraith seems to be a moderate, with some progressive tendencies., bluestate10 May 2012 #215
You can't have progressive tendencies and devote ALL your posts here to bashing the Left Ken Burch May 2012 #224
You've never offered a good alternative-in fact, you've never offered a POSITIVE message at all Ken Burch May 2012 #137
You use YOUR chisel on the people, not the oppressors Ken Burch May 2012 #138
Bookmarked. lamp_shade May 2012 #139
slow change ISN'T change Ken Burch May 2012 #140
Gradualism doesn't mean surrender and defeat. Arkana May 2012 #149
There's a huge difference between gradualism and expecting a long struggle Ken Burch May 2012 #168
The only victories that mattered in the Civil Rights movement were the 1964 and 1965 bills Ken Burch May 2012 #208
No other claim you made in this thread shows how blind you are. bluestate10 May 2012 #217
I salute all those who struggled for justice Ken Burch May 2012 #223
We don't even have gradualism. woo me with science May 2012 #321
The failure is not to try. mmonk May 2012 #145
The Status Quo: You're one of the "fringe people" if you don't go with the flow! nt Romulox May 2012 #147
Lmao. EFerrari May 2012 #148
Whatever lunatica May 2012 #150
My, aren't we concerned today? n/t backscatter712 May 2012 #151
No, actually I'm not. HappyMe May 2012 #163
You're not characterizing "general strike" properly. Robb May 2012 #160
Social Security was originally a third party idea Lydia Leftcoast May 2012 #165
The country was younger then. randome May 2012 #166
Um, most European countries have at least three parties and they're a lot more than 230 years old. Chorophyll May 2012 #171
Good point. randome May 2012 #176
What then is the precise and relevant cultural modifier ? LanternWaste May 2012 #174
Hell, I don't know. randome May 2012 #177
The large-and-unwieldy argument Chorophyll May 2012 #182
Didn't realize it was an 'attitude'. randome May 2012 #188
Well, after you hear it from enough people it feels like an attitude. Chorophyll May 2012 #194
I think the people can do damned near anything if they are organized and determined. randome May 2012 #200
Well, that would be cool! Chorophyll May 2012 #211
Premise built from little more than a post hoc ergo prompter hoc foundation , then. LanternWaste May 2012 #183
Okay, Nostradamus. Chorophyll May 2012 #167
What strike? WI_DEM May 2012 #173
Yeah, really... been off DU for a few days and this is the first I've heard of a "General Strike" OneTenthofOnePercent May 2012 #178
Well, this is true to form. TriMera May 2012 #179
I've never met other dems that hated their fellow dems Rex May 2012 #190
Yep. n/t TriMera May 2012 #192
I can't imagine why anyone responds to this OP...ever. Puglover May 2012 #196
Based on your expectations or that of the strikers themselves? LanternWaste May 2012 #180
What strike? FreeJoe May 2012 #187
This thread is so phuny Rex May 2012 #189
This message was self-deleted by its author HappyMe May 2012 #197
Prediction: whatchamacallit May 2012 #198
But he really loves Obama. girl gone mad May 2012 #206
Oh!!! bluestate10 May 2012 #218
He may own my vote due to lack of choice whatchamacallit May 2012 #222
Occupy Is The Top Headline On Bloomberg At 6 p.m. Tace May 2012 #209
A general strike is sucessful if it is sucessful. former9thward May 2012 #221
How dare you! randome May 2012 #261
That neither of you have either mushy numbers or statistics is not lost on anyone. EFerrari May 2012 #280
That would be proving a negative. randome May 2012 #282
I too favor persistence and patience. bluestate10 May 2012 #212
Huge turnout for OWS May Day march Tace May 2012 #214
+1. Hate to kick this hit and run POS, but... n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #231
Prediction: May Day marches that have been going on for years will now become OWS May Day Marches... SidDithers May 2012 #220
!!! Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #234
Said the guy who probably never marched on May Day in his life Ken Burch May 2012 #327
... SidDithers May 2012 #328
Yeah right, Sid...like you were EVER on the Left. Ken Burch May 2012 #329
... SidDithers May 2012 #330
Go ahead...you're just laughing at the truth. Ken Burch May 2012 #332
I'll stop laughing when you stop posting personal attacks... SidDithers May 2012 #333
Nobody claimed that Occupy was the inventor of May Day, or anything remotely like that. Ken Burch May 2012 #335
Wildcat strikes are illegal thanks to efforts by FDR. joshcryer May 2012 #225
Not the flop many had hoped.... Zax2me May 2012 #230
LOL Joe the Revelator May 2012 #241
The best was yet to come 8 months ago, too. randome May 2012 #263
Not a flop at all HarveyDarkey May 2012 #235
Lol! A hilarious thread! I hope you didn't bet money on this! Flop! Lol! sabrina 1 May 2012 #238
What world do you live in? Joe the Revelator May 2012 #240
What was accomplished? WinniSkipper May 2012 #243
'What did they accomplish'? What they set out to accomplish. sabrina 1 May 2012 #244
Pinboy's flyer WinniSkipper May 2012 #253
Hurting them with whom? The OPD -- who is under threat of sanctions? EFerrari May 2012 #284
No, not the OPD WinniSkipper May 2012 #301
Wait, let me get this straight. EFerrari May 2012 #303
No, that's not right WinniSkipper May 2012 #304
Um, if there's no "Joe Average", why do you invoke him? EFerrari May 2012 #305
Let's start with Joe WinniSkipper May 2012 #308
I think you need to put some time in reading EFerrari May 2012 #310
And I respect your WinniSkipper May 2012 #314
The accomplishment was 'success'? randome May 2012 #255
They set out to accomplish success and they succeeded! 4th law of robotics May 2012 #258
Um, the action went global. That's success. EFerrari May 2012 #285
Yeah, you may want to reassess that 4th law of robotics May 2012 #257
Sad thread really, hating on ordinary people Rex May 2012 #272
Very revealing thread. n/t EFerrari May 2012 #286
241 replies and nobody has stepped up yet guardian May 2012 #242
Typical hit-and-run concern troll bullshit RetroLounge May 2012 #252
Pointing out that something is likely to fail doesn't mean you necessarily oppose . . . 4th law of robotics May 2012 #259
With the OP, though, it is. Ken Burch May 2012 #281
Let it go. My 80 year old Mom didn't bank or buy yesterday. EFerrari May 2012 #289
Glad to hear that. La Lucha Continua! Ken Burch May 2012 #290
No one can stop this. EFerrari May 2012 #299
Sorry but May 1st was May Day, not Occupy Day. randome May 2012 #292
OWS has global support. Sorry. EFerrari May 2012 #297
"keep it real" Rex May 2012 #306
Nobody SAID Occupy invented May Day. Ken Burch May 2012 #316
Post #289 implies that Occupy is the driving force behind May Day. randome May 2012 #318
Shhh... SidDithers May 2012 #334
It is sad ain't it? Rex May 2012 #270
How about some candle light to counter the dark? suffragette May 2012 #309
So did the family not respond to offers for modification? randome May 2012 #312
Looks like the last person they helped was able to renegotiate and stay in his home suffragette May 2012 #315
I would always hope for that, as well. randome May 2012 #317
+1 harun May 2012 #319
to quote Nelson.."ha-ha!!!" U4ikLefty May 2012 #325
Has it started yet? slackmaster May 2012 #331
bump for the laughs U4ikLefty May 2012 #336
Capitalist imperialist running dog lackey. Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #337
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