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Octafish

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Fri Feb 27, 2015, 02:39 PM Feb 2015

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It would be easier to make an accusation of facisim if Holocaust and 20 million dead were not Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #1
it begs the question Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #3
It certainly does beg the question. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #19
+10000 All these absurd denials take the same form. woo me with science Feb 2015 #46
The Holocaust was a product of Nazism, hifiguy Feb 2015 #4
''Friendly Fascism'' is how Bertram Gross put it in 1980 Octafish Feb 2015 #17
I've had this book "Friendly Fascism" for years but never read it yet. m-lekktor Feb 2015 #40
I had a paperback from mid-80s...and an original edition hard cover... Octafish Mar 2015 #79
i have probably owned the paperback since mid 90's. I think i assumed it was outdated and never m-lekktor Mar 2015 #83
Keep them in your heart, like in ''Fahrenheit 451.'' Octafish Mar 2015 #91
While we may not be killing people... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2015 #21
We don't have to kill people on an industrial scale for facism to be bad. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #36
I agree with everything you said. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2015 #37
Nor are they necessary for inflicting death and misery on a large scale Scootaloo Feb 2015 #51
I think most that live in the US would like to evolve a little nolabels Mar 2015 #115
i am about a third of the way through Rick Perlstein's remarkable hifiguy Feb 2015 #2
Thank you for suggesting that. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2015 #12
just put a hold on it at my local library mikeysnot Feb 2015 #24
Piketty is going on my request list next. hifiguy Feb 2015 #27
Will pick up those Perlstein books... ReRe Feb 2015 #35
Maybe Ike was not kidding, but he what did he do during his years as a merrily Mar 2015 #107
Must read malaise Feb 2015 #5
Most definitely. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2015 #15
Excellent article. We must face the truth that our excessive militarism is destructive dissentient Feb 2015 #6
It's good for the economy. Explaining why permawar is good, Tyler Cowen: Octafish Mar 2015 #80
They are still trying to put the lipstick on the pig by calling it "Patriotism", "Free Market", Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #7
This was all explained by a master of the technique hifiguy Feb 2015 #8
Sadly, flag waving and calls for "loyalty" still work. Even here on DU. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #9
More DLC legacy, I fear. merrily Mar 2015 #108
Do you think the Goering... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2015 #23
Were there an afterlife. Herr Doktor Goebbels would be hifiguy Feb 2015 #30
Yep. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2015 #32
FOX News' Roger Ailes is a Big Fan of Leni Riefenstahl, Hitler's favorite NAZI filmmaker. Octafish Feb 2015 #42
Riefenstahl was a brilliant director. hifiguy Feb 2015 #52
+10 Lately I've been re-studying WWII, Nazism & looking at the SS patches & insignia that Dad appalachiablue Feb 2015 #31
I re-read 1984 around 2006 awoke_in_2003 Feb 2015 #33
"Naturally the common people don't want war" Mnpaul Feb 2015 #39
Thank you, Mnpaul! Octafish Feb 2015 #43
Were you surprised by highway signs in English? Mnpaul Feb 2015 #44
The young girl who said, 'I love you, American.' Octafish Feb 2015 #45
Steves is the most popular travel writer and travel log videographer in the US and he is great. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #67
That is a great video. CanSocDem Mar 2015 #72
I don't know about required viewing but i really liked this one nolabels Mar 2015 #116
Technical Note: Goering made these comments to (IIRC) a psychologist while KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #59
While I'm not sure as to whom or when the comments were made... Goering WAS tried and convicted AzDar Mar 2015 #106
Ah, shit, you are 1000% correct and I was mistaken. Goering did indeed face KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #109
K&R Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #10
An Unidentified Hero who fought Fascism in Spain Octafish Mar 2015 #81
John Pilger is a treasure ... Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2015 #11
PRISM and the Rise of a New Fascism (John Pilger) Octafish Feb 2015 #34
A mixture of fact and fiction. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #13
What is it you don't believe? Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2015 #16
Well, if you must ask.... Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #18
Baloney, There is more extremist influence in the new government than ever. newthinking Feb 2015 #38
If your argument is that the Lyashko Radical Party essentially switched places with Svoboda... Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2015 #53
His statement about how the greater number of Russian deaths in JDPriestly Feb 2015 #26
Stalin was a psychopath and didn't care about the well-being of his troops. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2015 #28
That was the view of my father after the war. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #29
Not to disagree per se (not having read the book you reference), why didn't the U.S. and U.K. KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #61
+100. I'd guess because they wanted Russia to lose, or at least be weakened. Either way, ND-Dem Mar 2015 #76
I did not seek to pick a fight (npi) with that poster, but the USSR defeated the KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #78
There really is not doubt about the 'elements' of Fascism, now in the Government of Kiev, or in. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #50
I think our fascism is fueled by the dominionists in the New Apostolic Reformation/NAR Sir. bobthedrummer Feb 2015 #14
& the ones in the government. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #77
The Dominionists believe it is their BIRTHRIGHT to rule over planet Earth. Octafish Mar 2015 #90
it's been a long time since it wasn't the issue imo stupidicus Feb 2015 #20
Korea...Vietnam...Brazil...Nicaragua...Panama...Iraq...Iraq...Afghanistan...Iraq... Octafish Mar 2015 #92
Rising fascism is relevant to Claire Conner, child of early John Birch Society leadership member appalachiablue Feb 2015 #22
Know your Tea Party Roots: Koch Fortune came courtesy of Josef Stalin and USSR Octafish Mar 2015 #93
Thanks for the excellent Pilger article and deep comments that generate further exploration. appalachiablue Feb 2015 #25
Eugenics and the Nazis -- the California connection Octafish Mar 2015 #110
K&R Time to start calling things, and politicians, what they are. woo me with science Feb 2015 #41
Most excellent post and thread following. JEB Feb 2015 #47
Just stumbled across this JEB Feb 2015 #48
Thank you for the heads-up, JEB! Margolis is TOPS! Octafish Mar 2015 #86
Inconvenient facts are never welcome, which doesn't make them NOT facts. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #49
I always found Norman Mailer's analysis of the 'real' reasons we invaded and occupied KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #62
I'll have to look for that JonLP24 Mar 2015 #96
I would have read this piece by Mailer quite some time ago (at least one KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #98
I knew the Bush lies were BS JonLP24 Mar 2015 #99
Orwell says Pilger is wrong Yorktown Mar 2015 #54
Hope your military runs out of people to kill frankfacts Mar 2015 #57
Ah, but Orwell would also I think agree with Lenin's observation: KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #63
And Trostky was, as usual, wrong Yorktown Mar 2015 #64
"Trotsky was a Red fascist" - you heard it here first, folks! - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #65
Is this Democratic Underground, or Communist Underground? Yorktown Mar 2015 #66
I actually disagree with the thesis of the author Pilger referenced in the OP and agree KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #68
Well, I do hope Democrats are not Reds.. Yorktown Mar 2015 #69
Orwell never knew Pilger. What do you think he'd say about ''Money trumps peace''? Octafish Mar 2015 #84
Orwell/Pilger: duh, no kidding. As for GW, he was the pits. Yorktown Mar 2015 #100
I'm so glad you understand. As for Bush, he lied America into a war of aggression. That's NAZI. Octafish Mar 2015 #111
He also said: ND-Dem Mar 2015 #88
None of your quotes is far left Yorktown Mar 2015 #101
libertarian my ass. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #102
Correct me if I am wrong, but your quotes are post Spain Yorktown Mar 2015 #103
Tories are the british conservative party. anarchist has nothing to do with "not conservative". ND-Dem Mar 2015 #105
K&R nt raouldukelives Mar 2015 #55
We live under a military dictatorship and it's planetary in its scope n/t frankfacts Mar 2015 #56
That explains the warmongers and banksters walking free. Octafish Mar 2015 #112
Pilger's ultimate point is undone by his own hypocrisy and willingness to engage in propoganda. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2015 #58
Bingo. nt. Yorktown Mar 2015 #70
WTH is a radical right wing populist? JonLP24 Mar 2015 #97
The tea party is branded as right wing populism. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2015 #114
You can find opinion polls before & since JonLP24 Mar 2015 #117
Obviously no invasion. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #113
Jeb Bush MinM Mar 2015 #60
How the elite talk in code: ''That way there will be no chance for misunderstanding.'' Octafish Mar 2015 #95
Important quote... JEB Mar 2015 #71
'International law,' like the Geneva Conventions, is so quaint and obsolete. We're on a KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #73
Letting our own war criminals slide JEB Mar 2015 #82
"the cult of superiority" = +100 ND-Dem Mar 2015 #74
I was curious about that cartoon. It says: 6 million Nazi voters : fodder for a big mouth, ND-Dem Mar 2015 #75
John Heartfield (born: Helmut Herzfeld) Octafish Mar 2015 #85
kick. Thanks for posting. +1 eom Purveyor Mar 2015 #87
K&R Cleita Mar 2015 #89
kick woo me with science Mar 2015 #94
Fascism = merging of corporate wealth and state power Initech Mar 2015 #104
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