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napkinz

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148. I don't care much for it either BUT

Sat Feb 7, 2015, 12:39 PM

Feb 2015

the president's remarks were spot on and the far-right won't acknowledge the truth of what he said.

America needs to face up to its history of genocide, slavery, Jim Crow.

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Outrage after Obama compares ISIS to the Crusades in comments at National Prayer Breakfast [View all] napkinz Feb 2015 OP

This one's gonna leave a mark. Heads exploding everywhere. louis-t Feb 2015 #1

remember Bush's quote ... napkinz Feb 2015 #3

That'll be a mess to clean up, but fortunately it will be mostly just blood ... 11 Bravo Feb 2015 #37

conservative heads exploding ... napkinz Feb 2015 #41

If I were President, I would simply utter nothing about religion-- TwilightGardener Feb 2015 #2

why deny the truth? napkinz Feb 2015 #7

Why appear at a National Prayer Breakfast? TwilightGardener Feb 2015 #12

absolutely agree guillaumeb Feb 2015 #48

There probably would be equal controversy if the President had not attended the NPB like previous amandabeech Feb 2015 #73

What was in today's comments was well needed push back against Islamaphobia in America. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #81

I love how the right-wing claims there's a "War on Christianity" napkinz Feb 2015 #83

Old propaganda ploy to cover for what they want -"accuse others of what you do" - which is wanting Maria Law in America. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #84

yep ... napkinz Feb 2015 #87

If the president wishes to make controversial statements, I would advise him to pick his time and amandabeech Feb 2015 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author G_j Feb 2015 #4

In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ. Johonny Feb 2015 #5

yep napkinz Feb 2015 #8

thanks guillaumeb Feb 2015 #51

it says on the image facebook.com/sancophaleague napkinz Feb 2015 #76

I would merely add Balzac's observation that 'behind every great fortune lies KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #92

Jesus Saves mb999 Feb 2015 #25

something FOX "News" will never acknowledge napkinz Feb 2015 #44

Second term, baby...Might as well tell as much truth as possible BeyondGeography Feb 2015 #6

and the Republicans thought he would be "humbled" by the loss of the Senate napkinz Feb 2015 #14

While true leftynyc Feb 2015 #9

what's wrong with reminding America of its history? napkinz Feb 2015 #19

Let's trot out the leftynyc Feb 2015 #22

when you have the right-wing TODAY blaming Islam and all Muslims, and whipping up hate napkinz Feb 2015 #27

Exactly right, time to fight back the xenophobia blowing up in the right wing. Fox leads the charge. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #68

+1 n/t markpkessinger Feb 2015 #75

and again, right out of CURRENT EVENTS ... napkinz Feb 2015 #139

It's not just the right-wing TODAY doing that... Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #140

the reason I emphasized "today" is because another member wrote: napkinz Feb 2015 #141

I know and I totally agree with you n/t Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #142

as you said, there are those claiming "Muslims are collectively responsible for what ISIS does" napkinz Feb 2015 #145

Christians in America setting their hair on fire over the speech reveals them to be not very good Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #143

posted by Cali_Democrat napkinz Feb 2015 #146

Nobody here is condoning the actions of ISIS . . . markpkessinger Feb 2015 #74

"President's remarks were aimed at people who smear the whole of the world's 1.5 billion Muslims" napkinz Feb 2015 #149

No it doesn't except to the simplest of simple minds who also think the Crusades were a nothing. TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #126

Slow down there leftynyc Feb 2015 #128

It isn't pretending it is not conflating proximity with effect. TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #131

So what's leftynyc Feb 2015 #132

Bill Moyers makes the connection ... napkinz Feb 2015 #138

Massive terrorism in America has been committed by Christians. Slavery for starters. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #144

Those rwers must have really been angry. Good for him. jwirr Feb 2015 #10

conservative heads are exploding ... check out the "internets" napkinz Feb 2015 #17

michelle malkin....bwahahahahahaaaa spanone Feb 2015 #11

... napkinz Feb 2015 #18

Ugh! Kath1 Feb 2015 #119

It was a boneheaded thing to do. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #13

Middletown Press headline: At prayer breakfast, Obama says ‘no god condones terror’ BeyondGeography Feb 2015 #15

I heard it on live tv. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #20

I agree leftynyc Feb 2015 #23

LOL Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #16

Reminds me of a saying... Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #26

You have to be kidding me. gcomeau Feb 2015 #60

Think it over and maybe it'll come to you. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #66

Pretty sure I'm not the one who hasn't already thought it over. -eom gcomeau Feb 2015 #69

I just saw it on FB and my response was loyalsister Feb 2015 #21

bingo! napkinz Feb 2015 #29

I remember a West Wing episode compared modern terrorists to the KKK of the 50s and 60s loyalsister Feb 2015 #35

the name Scalise just came to mind ... napkinz Feb 2015 #39

Wow! Tell the truth and watch RW extremists freak out! Oh noes...history! Ahhhhh!!! Rex Feb 2015 #24

"Does he validate what ISIS is doing? Of course not." napkinz Feb 2015 #34

I'm watching it happen right now on DU. Obama says it - bad. Rex Feb 2015 #50

I just saw a thread claiming napkinz Feb 2015 #57

Yeah bringing up history, is now validating ISIS and their actions! Doncha know!? Rex Feb 2015 #62

I can't believe how many RECS that thread is getting. napkinz Feb 2015 #64

and the insanity continues ... just read another reply napkinz Feb 2015 #110

I suppose he could have announced that we are in a clash of civilization in a life or death struggle Douglas Carpenter Feb 2015 #28

"clash of civilization in a life or death struggle" ... which is how Bush portrayed it napkinz Feb 2015 #46

It is a reasonable statement but the Crusades are kind of old and not exclusive to Christians. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #30

he did speak about recent history ... napkinz Feb 2015 #31

That was 50 years ago...c'mon BeyondGeography Feb 2015 #32

Fair enough but he could and should have included the Balkins. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #33

.... ? because the Balkans is 'in our home country'...? WTF? closeupready Feb 2015 #38

No because he was making the point that Christians commit atrocities as well. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Feb 2015 #42

Oh, I see - I agree. You mean, Christians murdering muslims in the Balkans. closeupready Feb 2015 #43

What's so outrageous about what he said? LeftinOH Feb 2015 #36

because in the minds of right-wingers, only "muslins" are terrorists napkinz Feb 2015 #55

Wait... the President agrees with Manny? MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #45

+1000 countryjake Feb 2015 #52

OK, when did you start advising the president? napkinz Feb 2015 #94

Juxtaposing the two threads Oilwellian Feb 2015 #115

I'm kind of tired of even giving these obscure RWNJs the time of day uhnope Feb 2015 #47

The thing is the Crusades happened a long time ago. Since then Christianity totodeinhere Feb 2015 #49

"No one expects the Spanish Inquisition" nt bigbrother05 Feb 2015 #53

So essentially, Islam right now is where Christianity was hundreds of years ago. Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #54

If they follow the Christian model Gore1FL Feb 2015 #56

Has the west stopped committing atrocities? When did this happen? Douglas Carpenter Feb 2015 #96

Why do the Crusades, which were hundreds of years ago, come up so often in these discussions? (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #97

The invasion of Iraq ,the aggression throughout throughout the Middle East. the userpation of Douglas Carpenter Feb 2015 #98

Bush himself called it a CRUSADE napkinz Feb 2015 #99

I wouldn't be too sure about the timeline Oilwellian Feb 2015 #118

Hundreds of years ago? kwassa Feb 2015 #120

Setting fire to the most revered symbol of a religion? Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #121

Um, you completely missed the point. kwassa Feb 2015 #129

recent events ... if anyone remembers napkinz Feb 2015 #135

Love it. It's a huge insult to ISIS LiberalLovinLug Feb 2015 #58

Nailed it: ' It's a huge insult to ISIS.' They'll know it, too. freshwest Feb 2015 #79

Well said. The instant outrage of the RW is boringly familiar, it has ZERO credibility. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #86

instant outrage ... too many to list but here are a few napkinz Feb 2015 #100

If this was the first time republican heads had exploded i may listen to what they say Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #59

Good for him and this will piss off more than just christian fundies. lol. Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #61

:) napkinz Feb 2015 #71

Sooooo? rtracey Feb 2015 #63

... napkinz Feb 2015 #111

He is absolutely correct. Those who deny it do not know their history. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #65

"Those who deny it do not know their history" napkinz Feb 2015 #80

And other Christians librarylu Feb 2015 #112

fucking pukes. incapable of advanced reading comprehension. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #67

not sure it's only the pukes napkinz Feb 2015 #70

A lot of folk even at DU are ready to press the Obama Outrage button as fast as they can misread a headline. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #72

yeesh. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #78

true, not only the pukes. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2015 #77

What he said was truly mild compared to what I would have said. (If I was on a last term) BlueJazz Feb 2015 #82

Associated Press report: Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #88

"no god condones terror" napkinz Feb 2015 #90

The truth always hurts when it comes crashing down. His placing IS in its proper place in history Number23 Feb 2015 #89

I Think The President Said Something Simple Profound And True Vogon_Glory Feb 2015 #91

and right on cue ... napkinz Feb 2015 #93

I am equally sick of Obama's Christian faith and with the Muslim faith and all the rest of them Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #95

Hear! Hear! librarylu Feb 2015 #113

Oh, more outrage from the Right! sheshe2 Feb 2015 #101

faux outrage ... notice how all of a sudden Michelle Malkin cares about gay people ... napkinz Feb 2015 #104

Malkin... sheshe2 Feb 2015 #105

... napkinz Feb 2015 #109

Not one of those persons seems to understand what Obama said. potone Feb 2015 #102

He merely stated a fact malaise Feb 2015 #103

Ever since the 2014 mid terms Cali_Democrat Feb 2015 #107

you can't state facts to conservatives napkinz Feb 2015 #108

I'd compare ISIS to the Inquisition nt LiberalElite Feb 2015 #106

A real journalist would ask these assclowns to point out exactly where and how 6000eliot Feb 2015 #114

calling Chuck Todd! napkinz Feb 2015 #116

+1! 6000eliot Feb 2015 #122

... napkinz Feb 2015 #125

Here is my take LuckyTheDog Feb 2015 #117

Pointing out the obvious that people will do horrible things to people they don't consider people killbotfactory Feb 2015 #123

it's hard to "point out the obvious" to most right-wingers napkinz Feb 2015 #124

Obama tells the truth and Christian assholes lose their minds. alarimer Feb 2015 #127

they don't want to be reminded about napkinz Feb 2015 #133

Why can't Christians stop such profane vulgarities? Trillo Feb 2015 #130

... napkinz Feb 2015 #134

sort of bad timing CullenBohannon Feb 2015 #136

bad timing? napkinz Feb 2015 #137

Fuck the stupid-ass National Prayer Breakfast TransitJohn Feb 2015 #147

I don't care much for it either BUT napkinz Feb 2015 #148