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belcffub

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107. this has been repeated several times

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 12:55 PM

Apr 2012

but what does that mean...

who's exempt :
a) the farm owners kids
b) cousins
c) grandkids
d) neighboring farm kids that pitch in...

and define family farm... many/most farms that people consider family farms are corporation for tax legal purposes...

so who was exempt again... just repeating the family farms were exempt doesn't mean anything...

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Dept of Labor: Kids can't work on family farms.... [View all] Bennyboy Apr 2012 OP

From what I have read I would have to support those restrictions. LiberalFighter Apr 2012 #1

I think it's ridiculous. cali Apr 2012 #6

There are child labor laws for everything else obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #12

are children truly endangered by working on family farms? cali Apr 2012 #16

Do most family businesses have the injury rate farm work does? JoeyT Apr 2012 #41

"City people don't know shit about it" NCTraveler Apr 2012 #79

"City people don't know shit about it" ...bwahhahahahaa spanone Apr 2012 #103

This is a bad bill Warpy Apr 2012 #2

This is perhaps the single most ignorant proposal I have heard in a long, long time. jtuck004 Apr 2012 #3

Why oh why do people consistently fall for the right wing frame over and over again. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #47

You know what has the highest rate of death? TheCruces Apr 2012 #62

Or riding in a car without a seat belt...? LanternWaste Apr 2012 #74

Dumb idea kctim Apr 2012 #4

Once had a High-larious argument with a DUer who swore this didn't happen to begin with. Romulox Apr 2012 #5

That what didn't happen? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #13

*Legal* child labor in the United States, and not just of the "family farm" variety. Romulox Apr 2012 #14

They can only work as school janitors... smirkymonkey Apr 2012 #7

That is patently untrue... cynatnite Apr 2012 #8

Protected from planting garlic? Kids need to be encouraged, not protected. jtuck004 Apr 2012 #19

Kids don't need protected? Seriously? cynatnite Apr 2012 #25

Minor injuries are inconsequential to the learning that happens. jtuck004 Apr 2012 #37

Can you justify doing nothing with over 16,000 injured children on farms? cynatnite Apr 2012 #40

How many are injured playing sports? dkf Apr 2012 #54

So, you are advocating FOR kid injuries? Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #55

Oh for goodness sakes. dkf Apr 2012 #57

The sports that require padding? LanternWaste Apr 2012 #75

But still allow them to play? joeglow3 Apr 2012 #102

You need regulations to keep from killing a kid? jtuck004 Apr 2012 #83

Having a few kids get hurt every year on a farm is more acceptable snooper2 Apr 2012 #71

maybe they should have a child-labor, or child-apprentice licensing program Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #9

If you grow up on a farm, you work obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #11

I bet $1000 Dokkie Apr 2012 #15

If it puts a kid's life at risk...damn straight... cynatnite Apr 2012 #17

Farming is consistently listed in the "top 10 most dangerous jobs" etherealtruth Apr 2012 #29

You can't just say "farming" and hope to be accurate ag_dude Apr 2012 #66

That's kind of the point of the legislation. Feed chickens - yes. Drive a dangerous machine - no. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2012 #77

the kids should be thrown into a for-profit prison Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #42

Does this mean my kid doesn't have to mow the lawn? Bake Apr 2012 #73

The most gruesome Dokkie Apr 2012 #91

My son is now 24. Bake Apr 2012 #97

everything is dangerous... but this fear of danger brings with it a new set of problems belcffub Apr 2012 #101

Good obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #10

Can we get a source other than the Daily Caller? sadbear Apr 2012 #18

My two daughters have grown up on our farm doing chores riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #20

How much of this is lies, how much spin, how much pulled out of their asses? joeybee12 Apr 2012 #21

Link to a website that links to the proposed changes. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #22

Specifically EXEMPTS kids on their own family farms--see link inside Maeve Apr 2012 #69

This is a crock of shit and guess who is behind it. lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #23

Thank you. I heard this on RW radio on the drive home and knew there was something missing underpants Apr 2012 #26

A post above tipped me off. lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #38

You just beat me to it. I just finished a google search debunking this riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #27

this would have still affected me... belcffub Apr 2012 #36

Nope... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #61

ok... so what is a "such person standing in the place of a parent" belcffub Apr 2012 #63

Do you own a farm? joeglow3 Apr 2012 #105

30 years too late! DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #24

Yay, drive out more family farmers! Big Ag will love this!!! Odin2005 Apr 2012 #28

That was my first thought as well. bluedigger Apr 2012 #34

You do know, don't you that the source is right-wing? Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #44

ridiculous. not the government's job to regulate what chores kids do within their own families. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #30

Nope EthclCtzn Apr 2012 #32

Could you please provide evidence from a source other the right wing one in the OP Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #46

Here is what the Dept. of Labor has to say about this... cynatnite Apr 2012 #31

Thankfully. Saving Hawaii Apr 2012 #49

Is no one else reporting on this? Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #33

What else is there to use it for? Saving Hawaii Apr 2012 #50

You should really delete this post mythology Apr 2012 #35

Organic farming is a civil rights issue.. EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #39

I think before you assert that the new child labor protections would affect family farms, Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #43

Your source is blatantly right-wing. Tunkamerica Apr 2012 #45

I agree with everything in the article. EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #48

Really? Because I actually read the new regulations and they don't do what the OPs right wing Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #51

I at least disagree with their decision to spell Buies Creek "Buis Creek". Just shows Tunkamerica Apr 2012 #56

self delete nt steve2470 Apr 2012 #52

Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to Amend the Child Labor in Agriculture Regulations steve2470 Apr 2012 #53

That's the same Daily Caller story posted in the OP pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #58

ah ok, i'll delete it then, thanks nt steve2470 Apr 2012 #59

no offense but.... steve2470 Apr 2012 #60

Well, ProSense Apr 2012 #67

Farm work is dangerous and underpaid. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #64

Oh please. Are you actually asserting that most kids born on farms cali Apr 2012 #65

No bullshit. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #72

Sorry, mine is not theoretical cali Apr 2012 #92

Probably imaginary then. nt Remmah2 Apr 2012 #98

Yes obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #81

It's possible to get hurt on a farm and not be found for hours/days. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #99

This is a HOAX--another faux outrage moment--read the facts, people! Maeve Apr 2012 #68

This story is all Repub lies Taitertots Apr 2012 #70

Harumph harumph harumph! progressoid Apr 2012 #76

Total RW BS tilsammans Apr 2012 #78

Awesome..... Bennyboy Apr 2012 #80

As other have rightly pointed out, this is right-wing propaganda Hugabear Apr 2012 #82

Apparently the Labor Dept. is right wing too. former9thward Apr 2012 #86

No, ProSense Apr 2012 #87

if it is not "something it's not" what is it :) belcffub Apr 2012 #93

No they withdrew the rule because it was over the top. former9thward Apr 2012 #106

Update: Labor department widthdraws proposed rule dealing with children who work in agricultural... PoliticAverse Apr 2012 #84

This law would not stop kids from working on the family farm. Curmudgeoness Apr 2012 #85

Too late ProSense Apr 2012 #88

It seems to me that most people who support this have never worked on a farm. I grow up working on a Synicus Maximus Apr 2012 #89

Farm girl here - that is as stupid as it gets. How else do we learn farming. This is not something jwirr Apr 2012 #90

At 12 years old I worked... meaculpa2011 Apr 2012 #94

The admin has withdrawn the proposal cali Apr 2012 #95

I guess they've withdrawn it.. Upton Apr 2012 #96

If you read up thread Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #100

this has been repeated several times belcffub Apr 2012 #107

This is stupid -- I started driving tractor when I was 6 years old FarCenter Apr 2012 #104