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In the discussion thread: If Bernie Sanders Runs For President, It Won’t Be as an Independent: “I will not be a spoiler” [View all]

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Tue Jan 27, 2015, 12:49 PM

bvf (6,604 posts)

106. Good point.

Nader was just trying to make a name for himself in the political arena, IMO. Sanders envisions a better country and wouldn't knowingly do anything to the detriment of that vision.

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If Bernie Sanders Runs For President, It Won’t Be as an Independent: “I will not be a spoiler” [View all]	pampango	Jan 2015	OP
Then here's the chance for Democrats to approach him and assure their backing if he decides to run	sabrina 1	Jan 2015	#1
I suspect the Third-Way contingent would work to kill his campaign from within	NorthCarolina	Jan 2015	#103
Shouldn't he be approaching the Democrats?	George II	Jan 2015	#122
No, why should he? He is making it clear he is interested in running for the WH, he has now stated	sabrina 1	Jan 2015	#128
The Democratic Party, i.e., Barack Obama, has won the last two Presidential elections, and...	George II	Jan 2015	#136
Those paying attention realized he was never going to be another Nader. n/t	PoliticAverse	Jan 2015	#2
Exactly. But that was a cheap reason to diss him because he is a threat to Hillary.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#91
Good point.	bvf	Jan 2015	#106
I don't know about that. As recently as September he was saying he could run as EITHER an	totodeinhere	Jan 2015	#107
I did see that, but I believe that come the actual election time	PoliticAverse	Jan 2015	#112
But, as has been discussed here before, he said in December 2013 that	winter is coming	Jan 2015	#138
Unless he feels that he could actually win the general election as a third	totodeinhere	Jan 2015	#139
Run Bernie Run! nt	99th_Monkey	Jan 2015	#3
Go go go go Bernie Sanders!!!!! Run Bernie Run!	TheNutcracker	Jan 2015	#4
+1. n/t	Jefferson23	Jan 2015	#5
glad to hear it! I know republicans would love to see	demigoddess	Jan 2015	#6
I thought he was too smart for that..	Cha	Jan 2015	#7
I wonder if, sometime in the near future, he and Hillary get together for a private conversation.	Tuesday Afternoon	Jan 2015	#8
It wouldn't do any good...Hillary is Hillary...	tokenlib	Jan 2015	#9
the ONLY reason Bernie needs to become a Democrat....is....	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#10
I take Bernie at his word and am very happy to hear that if he runs (and I hope he does) he	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#18
You take Bernie at his word? HOW does that negate what I just said?	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#21
He can't run in the primaries if he is not a Democrat.	Adrahil	Jan 2015	#23
He can run in his OWN primaries....	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#24
Ummm... No...	Adrahil	Jan 2015	#26
Um yes....Indpendent Party he is currently in....	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#28
He said he would not run as a spoiler...	Adrahil	Jan 2015	#31
That is what I am trying to tell YOU....the ONLY reason he NEEDS the Democrats...is M.O.N.E.Y.	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#33
No, the main thing isn't the money...	thesquanderer	Jan 2015	#97
Perhaps you could tell us which positions he holds that are inconsistent with Dem policies. n/t	winter is coming	Jan 2015	#34
Perhaps YOU could tell us how he can run in the Democratic Primaries without becoming a Democrat?	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#36
All he has to do is switch his formal affiliation to the Democratic Party.	winter is coming	Jan 2015	#38
You don't see that as a big deal...however the ONLY reason to do that....is still M.O.N.E.Y.	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#40
Actually, visibility would be a good reason.	winter is coming	Jan 2015	#41
"visibility"	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#42
Incorrect...The MAJOR reason to run as a Democrat is to NOT SPLIT THE VOTE, and to unify those that	Faryn Balyncd	Jan 2015	#76
How is that inconsistent with Bernie Sanders?	JonLP24	Jan 2015	#82
Ballot access is important too	Renew Deal	Jan 2015	#45
Bottom line...you cannot get elected without money....	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#47
Perot ran on his own line in the general election	Renew Deal	Jan 2015	#51
EXACTLY.....because BERNIE cannot raise the money...PERIOD!	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#52
Money and ballot access are not the same.	Renew Deal	Jan 2015	#55
Yes my friend it takes MONEY......money to buy advertising....	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#56
Bernie has no chance	Renew Deal	Jan 2015	#58
That's called reality!	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#60
I don't know why people feel O'Malley would be popular	JonLP24	Jan 2015	#83
If Hillary and Biden somehow don't run, voters will likely support O'Malley	Renew Deal	Jan 2015	#84
Biden would probably be even more unpopular than O'Malley	JonLP24	Jan 2015	#86
I saw a poll with Biden and without Hillary that had him in the lead	Renew Deal	Jan 2015	#87
Most of the people outside of Biden & Hillary are unknown to the American public	JonLP24	Jan 2015	#88
He doesn't belong to any political party	JonLP24	Jan 2015	#81
Not for money. How much more moeny will he just because he has a D after his name?	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#53
How much money do you think it takes to win an election?	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#54
How would changing parties give him more money?	JDPriestly	Jan 2015	#89
because the Democratic party HAS it...geebus!	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#90
........	daleanime	Jan 2015	#35
Actually, I'm not sure he can get on the ballot in some states without a party affiliation	Renew Deal	Jan 2015	#44
Perot ran....	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#57
In the general election	Renew Deal	Jan 2015	#59
because he didn't belong to one of the major parties...just like Bernie!	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#61
How can you possibly defend the statement that Sen. Sanders does "not belong in one of the major...	Faryn Balyncd	Jan 2015	#75
can Hillary run without money? can anyone?	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#78
Far from the only reason	JonLP24	Jan 2015	#80
sniff sniff	LondonReign2	Jan 2015	#100
Lol!	BeanMusical	Jan 2015	#111
Good man, Bernie. Thanks for refusing to 'Nader' the election.	wyldwolf	Jan 2015	#11
Cool (nt)	bigwillq	Jan 2015	#12
yes! run, bernie, run! nt	hopemountain	Jan 2015	#13
So no more Bernie = Nader threads?	KamaAina	Jan 2015	#14
Now it will probably just turn to the "Bernie is unelectable" talking point. nt	NorthCarolina	Jan 2015	#104
Oh, right. My bad.	KamaAina	Jan 2015	#105
Keep up	nxylas	Jan 2015	#129
Only someone with absolutely no knowledge of Bernie's history	NorthCarolina	Jan 2015	#130
No need for any as long as he doesn't run a deliberate spoiler vanity boondoggle is there?	whatthehey	Jan 2015	#135
I believe he would easily get as many votes as Nader and maybe as many as Perot,	mountain grammy	Jan 2015	#15
Amen....	daleanime	Jan 2015	#37
Road trip! Count me in, Grammy!	Stardust	Jan 2015	#124
You're in, Stardust!	mountain grammy	Jan 2015	#125
I was on the call	PDittie	Jan 2015	#16
That's because "Clinton's the next in line,"	MoonchildCA	Jan 2015	#19
"Pushed down our throats"???	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#27
The challengers will not be Sanders or Warren	PDittie	Jan 2015	#118
Bernie is polling at 4%.....Hillary at 61%....	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#25
Color me surprised that you commented on this post.	MoonchildCA	Jan 2015	#29
So do 61% of Democrats!	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#30
Well, that's all good and fine. I too will vote for the candidate.	MoonchildCA	Jan 2015	#43
The ONLY ones saying "forgone conclusion" or "crowning" etc....are the Left Leaning Independents..	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#48
And yet - here you are......	djean111	Jan 2015	#63
Obama had also been a nationally recognized figure for almost 3 years	NYC Liberal	Jan 2015	#74
Well, Biden was an early favorite in 1988	Art_from_Ark	Jan 2015	#85
Some people never get tired of performance art. n/t	winter is coming	Jan 2015	#39
Performance art would be thinking that you can come from 4% and beat the candidate with 61%	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#50
Do you really think you are helping Hillary with this constant stream of....stuff?	djean111	Jan 2015	#64
Constant stream of FACTS?	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#65
Facts is not the word I had in mind.	djean111	Jan 2015	#66
You don't get to decide IF she is a Democrat...apparently MOST Democrats do believe she is...	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2015	#67
You are aware that I only make that decision for myself, by myself, right?	djean111	Jan 2015	#94
Interesting in the same post it is understood only the individual decides their affiliation	TheKentuckian	Jan 2015	#113
She decided that I was not a democrat, I was a left leaning independent. And after thinking about it	Autumn	Jan 2015	#123
You are SO ipso facto, I am stunned that my dear friend did not bestow an ipso facto on me.	Autumn	Jan 2015	#126
I think there is an ipso facto tshirt 'n' everything! So sad you did not qualify......nt	djean111	Jan 2015	#131
Go Bernie go!	MissDeeds	Jan 2015	#17
He loves his country	tabasco	Jan 2015	#20
So...Syriza?	moondust	Jan 2015	#22
Good for Bernie	Andy823	Jan 2015	#32
Campaign for Bernie now, like he's already a Dem, to get a jump on the primaries. nt	Zorra	Jan 2015	#46
K&R	Jamaal510	Jan 2015	#49
I will work for Bernie if he runs.	hay rick	Jan 2015	#62
exactly	Ramses	Jan 2015	#70
Sanders seems to have people frightened here.	Ramses	Jan 2015	#68
And lots of exclamation points. 'Cause if you say it louder, that makes it more true.	winter is coming	Jan 2015	#69
Left Leaning Independents elevens!!!11111!!!1	Ramses	Jan 2015	#72
Careful, dude...	Buns_of_Fire	Jan 2015	#93
What RESPECT I have for this human. nt	UTUSN	Jan 2015	#71
Same here	MissDeeds	Jan 2015	#77
“I will not play that role in helping to elect some right-wing Republican as President of the US..."	freshwest	Jan 2015	#73
Bernie is a good man and I look forward to the debates.	LawDeeDah	Jan 2015	#79
He's one of the good guys	madokie	Jan 2015	#92
Of course, that assumes all the Republicans are in the Republican party. n/t	jtuck004	Jan 2015	#95
Yep, the only thing standing in the way of democracy is Wall St money.	raouldukelives	Jan 2015	#96
Yay, Bernie!	Enthusiast	Jan 2015	#98
Bernie Sanders is actually a realist.	MineralMan	Jan 2015	#99
I always knew...	Paka	Jan 2015	#101
K&R nt	Duval	Jan 2015	#102
My one concern is that if both he and Warren run they could split the anti-Clinton vote and	totodeinhere	Jan 2015	#108
I think having more than one progressive candidate is the least of our worries	fbc	Jan 2015	#110
So you do not think that splitting the progressive vote should be a concern?	totodeinhere	Jan 2015	#116
I think it would depend on the individual candidates.	winter is coming	Jan 2015	#120
And it sounds like some folks really don't want that to happen	nxylas	Jan 2015	#132
It should definitely be a concern.	stillwaiting	Jan 2015	#133
Run Bernie!	fbc	Jan 2015	#109
Well, at least he doesn't want to be a spoiler.	Beacool	Jan 2015	#114
Well that should shut up all the DU Cassandras.	Cleita	Jan 2015	#115
Doubtful, since Bernie gave an interview about a year ago, hinting at the same thing.	winter is coming	Jan 2015	#121
See post #107. n/t	totodeinhere	Jan 2015	#137
Thank you Bernie	LynneSin	Jan 2015	#117
Run Bernie run. This is no surprise, Bernie has said this all along.	Autumn	Jan 2015	#119
Good for Bernie. I'd vote for him if he gets the nod!	marble falls	Jan 2015	#127
Good for him - thinking of the greater good.	whatthehey	Jan 2015	#134

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