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Avalux

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60. I think they're goodhearted people and their work improves lives. HOWEVER -

Fri Jan 23, 2015, 01:07 PM

Jan 2015

they are helping people fit into the status quo. I want people like Gates to CHANGE the status quo, recognizing that all people are equal regardless of their economic status. Charity won't change the world Bill and Melinda.

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Bill and Melinda Gates have a plan for income inequality [View all] ND-Dem Jan 2015 OP

I don't want us to be the playthings of the wealthy. mucifer Jan 2015 #1

Perhaps charter schools "are having incredible success getting students into four-year colleges" Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #2

Most charter schools can't hand-select the people who are admitted jmowreader Jan 2015 #27

The secret is that children whose parents apply for places in charter schools probably come from JDPriestly Jan 2015 #29

That's the theory, at least Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #31

"They made their money by oppressing others" brooklynite Jan 2015 #50

The Chinese factories. Shipping jobs overseas has also done a lot of damage to people here. mucifer Jan 2015 #54

They don't make money building computers; they make money writing software brooklynite Jan 2015 #56

They didn't create DOS, they bought it and rebranded it. Trillo Jan 2015 #55

k&r ND-Dem Jan 2015 #59

Sounds like they are getting a bit nervous about what the people are finding out. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #3

don't worry. you don't have to worry about receiving the Gates' charity magical thyme Jan 2015 #53

+100. and we can guess why; africa is the next china, so gotta lay the ground. people like ND-Dem Jan 2015 #61

So I see multiple negative comments here about their wealth, and nothing about what they're doing kysrsoze Jan 2015 #4

and yet both buffett and gates just keep getting richer. don't you find it odd? ND-Dem Jan 2015 #6

What's your point? Everything else is moot? And BTW - your statement is incorrect. See link: kysrsoze Jan 2015 #8

Huh? Even Forbes (magazine of capitalist pig wanna-bes) says gates' wealth is up. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #11

And again, what's your point? Would you just as soon see them quit the philanthropy? kysrsoze Jan 2015 #13

Yes, I'd gladly trade their philanthropy (much of which has two faces, ulterior motives, etc) for ND-Dem Jan 2015 #16

I'd rather see philanthropy AND a complete rewrite of the American/global capitalistic economic syst kysrsoze Jan 2015 #23

Big money is always made off someone else's back. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #26

charter schools are often for profit entities that suck money from the public school fund, and liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #7

"Often" being the key word. They're not all run as for-profit ventures. kysrsoze Jan 2015 #9

more often than not especially the newest ones. It's the new hot business. They saw they potential liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #10

I competely agree with you there. That was not the original intention kysrsoze Jan 2015 #12

something I think that today's educational experts especially American ones don't get is that liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #15

lots of ways to make money off non-profits. like by charging high 'rent' for your own properties, ND-Dem Jan 2015 #62

Thank You TBA Jan 2015 #28

They're already hoarding their money. Foundations are one of the ways they hoard it. I'd ND-Dem Jan 2015 #30

Yes, exactly. kcr Jan 2015 #51

Philanthropy is important, but as one who has written a lot of grants to both private foundations, JDPriestly Jan 2015 #32

Gates screwed US workers over and over again FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #47

screw Bill Gates and his charter school movement. liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #5

Agreed. This charter school movement and the emphasis on testing testing testing wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #46

they grow wealthier as they have investments. the gates have made a huge positive difference in the La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #14

It actively works against some level of income equality, you mean. It's the reason the world ND-Dem Jan 2015 #17

no, i dont think philanthropy actively works against income equality La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #19

Funny that there have been two historical periods in the US in which philanthropy played an outsized ND-Dem Jan 2015 #21

two things can happen at the same time without being causal. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #22

They can -- but not in this case. And if you read the history of the origins of the big foundations, ND-Dem Jan 2015 #25

And is that cause or effect? brooklynite Jan 2015 #52

its effect unless you believe in giant conspiracies. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #66

We must approach income inequality by increasing funding for all education, get rid of the minimum liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #18

yes, you are right on all accounts. La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2015 #20

I agree as well. kysrsoze Jan 2015 #24

So you prefer the model of give all your shit away today. dilby Jan 2015 #33

Is that what happened under roosevelt? OK then, I like it. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #34

You are making zero sense. dilby Jan 2015 #35

I think you missed the point ND-Dem Jan 2015 #36

Then that is your fault. dilby Jan 2015 #37

is it? i disagree. the gates don't bitch about taxes; they just buy politicians who'll help them ND-Dem Jan 2015 #38

Yeah I will need a bedtime story since dilby Jan 2015 #40

lol ND-Dem Jan 2015 #42

unless they say their taxes should be 75%. STFU. pansypoo53219 Jan 2015 #39

I agree, their taxes should be 75% and they should stfu. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #41

How is this different from "trickle down"? Smarmie Doofus Jan 2015 #43

+100 ND-Dem Jan 2015 #64

"Just make more"? JHB Jan 2015 #44

hey, that's what h1bs are for! they don't need no 'pay raises' ND-Dem Jan 2015 #63

I've often wondered how generous these philanthropists would be bulloney Jan 2015 #45

They never seem to help anyone real. nilesobek Jan 2015 #48

+100. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #57

It always seems to make the poor folk feel like beggars, doesn't it? Vinca Jan 2015 #49

+100 ND-Dem Jan 2015 #58

I think they're goodhearted people and their work improves lives. HOWEVER - Avalux Jan 2015 #60

bill gates has proven in his business dealings he's a shark. he remains a shark. he's not going ND-Dem Jan 2015 #65

We're saying the same thing I think. Avalux Jan 2015 #67

except that sharks aren't good-hearted. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #68